BVS真的有這麼糟嗎? - 電影

By Iris
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at 2016-05-02T12:35
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※ 引述《icyling (會不會放手其實才是擁有)》之銘言:
以下2段影評就是在解釋BVS中的蝙蝠俠的心理狀態。
Batman v Superman- How I surprised myself 中字 上
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N79936WOWmg
Batman v Superman- How I surprised myself 中字 下
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY37lr8KWyU
就一般常見的問題,其實電影是有鋪陳的喔。
我就一段一段回吧。
1.這一版的老爺到底是怎樣的老爺啊?
簡單來說,BVS一開始的布魯斯-出道20年蝙蝠俠,
已經不是那個連小丑都無法侵蝕的蝙蝠俠了。
阿福說過,「狂熱、憤怒、無力感,會讓好人變的殘酷」
這就是BVS一開始的蝙蝠俠的心境。
阿蝙說自己是個罪犯,並對著羅賓服裝若有所思。
而且蝙蝠俠的對話裡充滿了消極和腐化的味道。
最重要的是,超人的出現帶給他極大的震撼。
這和TDK系列的形象差得太大,也是許多觀眾反彈的主因。
許多人忽略了這20年的職業傷害。
2.好像也不聰明,然後抓壞蛋的時候槍一掃殺人殺一堆(我看到那邊都嚇壞了)
然後被超人搞得仇恨值滿點。
MOS事件後,布魯斯決定復出,其實完全是針對超人而來。
在開頭氪星人的紛爭中,人類的傷亡比螻蟻還不如,在那時布魯斯就已經下了決定了。
蝙蝠俠開始不顧人命是在他決定要殺超人以後發生的,
他跨過那條了底線,整個行動風格變的異常暴力血腥,這一點表現的很到位。
一直以來的蝙蝠俠作品都不斷的強調守住底線的重要性,這次BVS直接演給我們看。
許多人詬病蝙蝠俠竟然沒有看破雷克斯的計謀,有損世界最佳偵探的威名,
可是蝙蝠俠本來就已經決定殺超人,他已經決定了!
所以就沒有特別去調查超人是否清白。
雷克斯的計謀實際上不會影響蝙蝠俠的決定,只是提前讓衝突發生。
3.就片中開頭說的,他很care父母的事情
但整部片中間也沒有更多鋪陳哩
但這一版的Bruce沒有啊!
只有一開始父母被殺的慢動作,還有看著墓碑發呆,後來真的鮮少提到他對父母的情感
流露了,可能導演覺得不必要吧。
但如果中間多一些鋪陳,也許到後面瑪莎的出現不會那樣突兀。
布魯斯關於父母的噩夢不只一次,我還被墓碑出血那段嚇到。
你到底是怎麼做出沒鋪陳的結論的阿?
4.大部分最難讓大家接受的就是瑪莎了。
折磨了蝙蝠俠一輩子的痛楚就是父母之死,
布魯斯自從父母雙亡以後就不再是個正常人,對於正義的異常堅持已經是精神病層級了。
一開始超人喊瑪莎,蝙蝠俠還以為超人為什麼知道他母親的名字,一度陷入混亂。
蝙蝠俠是已經跨過了底線沒錯,可是他對於人質的保護仍是最高優先,
所以毅然決然的先救瑪莎再說,殺超人先放一邊。
蝙蝠俠本來就會為了人質,暫時放下要逮捕的目標,這點並沒有改變。
另外,他終於有機會挽救另一個母親瑪莎免於死亡!
其實不只是在救超人的母親,在強烈的移情作用下,他也是在救自己的母親阿!!!
拯救瑪莎是整個BVS的轉折,蝙蝠俠從這一刻再起!!!
瑪莎今晚不會死,整個BVS最讓我飆淚的就是這段台詞,
因為我們的英雄,大師兄(X) 蝙蝠俠(O) 回來了阿!!!!!
前面我看的超虐心的,可是那是黎明前的黑暗,現在,光明升起!
雖然為了保住瑪莎,他引爆了歹徒的火器,但是那是無可奈何的選擇,人質優先!
最後他告訴瑪莎他是超人的朋友,我認為有部分在安慰人質。
可是蝙蝠俠已經知道超人是來尋求協助並且處處手下留情,
有幾分成份也是相信了超人不是壞人。
---------------------------------------
BVS的主軸就是英雄的墮落與再起,
正義的曙光這個標題下的非常到位。
我不強迫接受,但我協助說明。
過去從沒有人把阿蝙的黑暗面演的這麼沉重虐心,但是在最後又給予救贖。
對我而言,BVS是把中年蝙蝠俠的無力感詮釋的頗到位的電影。
--
十幾年過去了,沒想到還有人記得真正的傳說。
這孩子的名字叫作大倉都子。
傳說之樹,你也很高興吧?
http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=00236&snA=1164&tnum=36
--
以下2段影評就是在解釋BVS中的蝙蝠俠的心理狀態。
Batman v Superman- How I surprised myself 中字 上
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N79936WOWmg
Batman v Superman- How I surprised myself 中字 下
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY37lr8KWyU
就一般常見的問題,其實電影是有鋪陳的喔。
我就一段一段回吧。
1.這一版的老爺到底是怎樣的老爺啊?
簡單來說,BVS一開始的布魯斯-出道20年蝙蝠俠,
已經不是那個連小丑都無法侵蝕的蝙蝠俠了。
阿福說過,「狂熱、憤怒、無力感,會讓好人變的殘酷」
這就是BVS一開始的蝙蝠俠的心境。
阿蝙說自己是個罪犯,並對著羅賓服裝若有所思。
而且蝙蝠俠的對話裡充滿了消極和腐化的味道。
最重要的是,超人的出現帶給他極大的震撼。
這和TDK系列的形象差得太大,也是許多觀眾反彈的主因。
許多人忽略了這20年的職業傷害。
2.好像也不聰明,然後抓壞蛋的時候槍一掃殺人殺一堆(我看到那邊都嚇壞了)
然後被超人搞得仇恨值滿點。
MOS事件後,布魯斯決定復出,其實完全是針對超人而來。
在開頭氪星人的紛爭中,人類的傷亡比螻蟻還不如,在那時布魯斯就已經下了決定了。
蝙蝠俠開始不顧人命是在他決定要殺超人以後發生的,
他跨過那條了底線,整個行動風格變的異常暴力血腥,這一點表現的很到位。
一直以來的蝙蝠俠作品都不斷的強調守住底線的重要性,這次BVS直接演給我們看。
許多人詬病蝙蝠俠竟然沒有看破雷克斯的計謀,有損世界最佳偵探的威名,
可是蝙蝠俠本來就已經決定殺超人,他已經決定了!
所以就沒有特別去調查超人是否清白。
雷克斯的計謀實際上不會影響蝙蝠俠的決定,只是提前讓衝突發生。
3.就片中開頭說的,他很care父母的事情
但整部片中間也沒有更多鋪陳哩
但這一版的Bruce沒有啊!
只有一開始父母被殺的慢動作,還有看著墓碑發呆,後來真的鮮少提到他對父母的情感
流露了,可能導演覺得不必要吧。
但如果中間多一些鋪陳,也許到後面瑪莎的出現不會那樣突兀。
布魯斯關於父母的噩夢不只一次,我還被墓碑出血那段嚇到。
你到底是怎麼做出沒鋪陳的結論的阿?
4.大部分最難讓大家接受的就是瑪莎了。
折磨了蝙蝠俠一輩子的痛楚就是父母之死,
布魯斯自從父母雙亡以後就不再是個正常人,對於正義的異常堅持已經是精神病層級了。
一開始超人喊瑪莎,蝙蝠俠還以為超人為什麼知道他母親的名字,一度陷入混亂。
蝙蝠俠是已經跨過了底線沒錯,可是他對於人質的保護仍是最高優先,
所以毅然決然的先救瑪莎再說,殺超人先放一邊。
蝙蝠俠本來就會為了人質,暫時放下要逮捕的目標,這點並沒有改變。
另外,他終於有機會挽救另一個母親瑪莎免於死亡!
其實不只是在救超人的母親,在強烈的移情作用下,他也是在救自己的母親阿!!!
拯救瑪莎是整個BVS的轉折,蝙蝠俠從這一刻再起!!!
瑪莎今晚不會死,整個BVS最讓我飆淚的就是這段台詞,
因為我們的英雄,大師兄(X) 蝙蝠俠(O) 回來了阿!!!!!
前面我看的超虐心的,可是那是黎明前的黑暗,現在,光明升起!
雖然為了保住瑪莎,他引爆了歹徒的火器,但是那是無可奈何的選擇,人質優先!
最後他告訴瑪莎他是超人的朋友,我認為有部分在安慰人質。
可是蝙蝠俠已經知道超人是來尋求協助並且處處手下留情,
有幾分成份也是相信了超人不是壞人。
---------------------------------------
BVS的主軸就是英雄的墮落與再起,
正義的曙光這個標題下的非常到位。
我不強迫接受,但我協助說明。
過去從沒有人把阿蝙的黑暗面演的這麼沉重虐心,但是在最後又給予救贖。
對我而言,BVS是把中年蝙蝠俠的無力感詮釋的頗到位的電影。
--
十幾年過去了,沒想到還有人記得真正的傳說。
這孩子的名字叫作大倉都子。
傳說之樹,你也很高興吧?
http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=00236&snA=1164&tnum=36
--
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