DCEU現在欠缺的 - 電影
By Freda
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最下面有更新DCEU各部電影全球票房及美國國內光碟銷售
原文恕刪
相信當初有固定最追外電的人
一定知道MoS這部電影2010年就開始前置作業
那時候的高層還是原來的Barry Meyer
幾乎所有千禧世代經典電影都是這位CEO任內產生
然後原本訂於2012/12月上映的MoS突然推遲說要延到2013
說法是要讓諾蘭的第三集蝙蝠俠跟超人錯開,達到年年有大片
2013年3月CEO突然換成Kevin Tsujihara
我不知道大家怎麼想,但我認為這是為了讓這位CEO任內第一年有好成績
才把一些大片都推遲到2013這年度
同年在這部MoS電影上前
Zack已經有說過自己早就在準備籌拍MoS2、JL,WW跟Aquaman也在計畫當中
可見當初在拍MoS時,Zack大概已經有籌畫了DCEU前體大致樣貌
也是這段期間,我忘了在哪些訪談Zack說過
在MoS這部電影裡面,超人是位33歲才剛出道的超人
他需要經歷一些大事件過後
這位超人才會漸漸成為我們所熟知的那充滿陽光向的靈魂人物
訪談裡也說了他打算在續集裡先把蝙蝠俠帶出來過個水沾個醬油
讓兩位DC的扛霸子初次見面,並藉由跟蝙蝠俠的一小段合作關係
讓超人理解到蝙蝠俠的作法且無法認同
然後才會有BvS這部作品讓兩位成功解決理念並接續上JL1跟JL2,最後才是MoS3
對,那時候的Zack確實是畫大餅沒錯,一次規劃了算是五部曲的超人歷程
因為這時候華納也還沒要讓他統籌,但他確實是有計畫性的提出整個宇宙版圖
可是同年的COMIC CON 上,華納似乎被2012年漫威的復聯逼急了
要Zack少掉MoS2,直接推出BvS並宣布由他擔任整個DCEU的統籌
我想後續各位大概也知道發生什麼事了
原本當初說好要上映三個小時的版本
臨時在上映前兩個月要求縮到兩個半小時
而且剪接完全不知道在剪什麼
若照原初上映,至少整部電影跟節奏會好一點
但還不至於會被罵成這樣
SS這邊高層介入
WW拍攝期間有前員工出來爆料
說明Kevin Tsujihara有夠爛,各種好牌被他一手玩爛
到了JL,Zack為了高層要求稍微調整了方向
而且2016/10月殺青的電影並開始進入補拍階段,2017/3月也早就進入最後階段
5月退出最後階段,整個進行超級大補拍
Junkie XL先前所製作的配樂,也全部撤換成Danny Elfman
原本預定也是超過兩個小時半的電影
現任CEO也出來說強制把片長縮限在兩個小時
最後電影呈現出來的樣子就是那種四不像
要陽光不陽光、黑暗不黑暗、大眾不大眾的
然後再把鍋整個砸在Zack身上這未免也太說不過去
為什麼要這樣剪的理由還是為了在年末前怕跟AT&T併購案這件事中
拿不到紅利年終,才壓縮整部電影
這再怎麼看,要怪也是要怪現在那華納白癡高層吧
另外一堆人說MoS根本就是賠錢的
似乎完全不知道當初製作成本2.25億鎂的MoS
在電影上映前早就靠找來的贊助商置入式行銷賺進51億(快兩億鎂)的台幣
其中NOKIA更是給了14億台幣的金額
並打破2012年007:Skyfall的14億台幣紀錄
最後MoS的全球票房紀錄6.68億鎂,DVD加上藍光的銷售1.1億鎂
總共帶來了7.78億鎂,這成績單再怎麼看也相當優秀吧
版上罵得要死的BvS,全球票房8.73億鎂後續的DVD加藍光也有0.77億鎂
扣掉成本當初還有報導說華納還有淨賺1.多億鎂
在過來看看這精美的JL
全球票房6.57億鎂,成本3億鎂
目前DVD加藍光銷售0.35億鎂
然後導致現在連JL2也沒了,開始走一步算一步
若按照當初Zack版上映就算評價不好也不會像現在這樣
而且對於整個故事的整體性是一致的
而且我還真的不知道Zack到底有多糟
高層各種干預讓他做的綁手綁腳,說他統籌不好我沒話說
但要他背鍋,先讓現任CEO下台再說
走一個DC影業高層有什麼屁用
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WW確實有受影響,但首週還是比當初預估的9500萬鎂高
後續也是因為整體口碑不錯,拉抬整個聲勢
讓JL整個被看好
而且WW當初也有傳出高層干預插手要刪掉無人之境
後來導演證實只是跟團隊內的成員溝通
我這個人比較悲觀啦,而且對比現在的情況
我還是相信當初導演是跟高層爭取這段不要刪的
畢竟後來電影口碑那麼好,總不能有什麼負面消息
想想若少了這段,WW會怎樣大放異采
既然會受前作影響,那JL應該也要被庇蔭到
但是完全沒有,再加上戲院版上那什麼鬼東西
若現行版本的JL真的很好應該不會是這樣,而且這證明了高層做了一個超級錯的決定
我不會說上Zack版就一定好
但就像我上面說的,整體的一致性絕對是好的
殺紅眼的理由版上已經一堆人提過了,不想再提
然後是六部曲,是因為縮減了一個MoS2才變成五部曲
為什麼BvS要在六部曲裡面,因為他是起、承、轉、合裡,DCEU的轉
這裡就可以看出Zack想選一個跟MCU完全不同的做法帶出整個世界觀
他要藉由超人的這六部曲為主幹,在進行到合之前,也就是JL1、JL2的階段
要同時在進行到BvS這第三部曲的時候帶出JL的所有人跟起源
或者在JL之後帶出其他在JL裡面出現的人
所以我前面才會說他說有規劃了WW跟Aquaman的計畫
這是一個很棒的概念,但也需要一點時間執行
卻絕對比急就章的上大堆頭電影好
而且這樣也是已經跟MCU一樣在第五部推出大堆頭
因為高層的決定少了一部,全濃縮在BvS縮短行程
變成JL上映前的狀況已經是最快趕上MCU的方法了
我沒在說MCU怎樣,我喜歡MCU的電影
但我對DCEU的前景已沒什麼熱情
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我不會說IP不重要,因為我真的知道很多人真的是為了這兩人的對決去戲院
Zack的電影大部分上真的是很吃電波
在BvS上面確實不能說他沒有錯,他確實做了一些很實驗性的方式在商業巨片上
但是BvS除了最被人詬病瑪莎梗之外,還有來自他的剪接跟時間敘事
剪接跟敘事這方面高層真的是不知道該說什麼
早就敲定好的三小時,臨時動議要更改
只能盡量剪成所需的長度,然後敘事方面又亂調動
造成上映後,媒體、大眾都傳達出普遍的不佳
但是也讓一些人對於這系列推入坑,喜歡他們的電影
我並沒有忽略當初戲院版的負評一堆
可是後面的導演版卻又得到許多迴響以及讚賞
並且把負評拉回來這部份真的不能忽略
因為真的會買導演版的人,是這一部電影上映過後又能創造出更多價值利益的人
因為他們真的對這部電影有愛,光這樣就創造了0.77億鎂
(高層若真的有腦,真的不能忽略這些人)
你也不能忽略高層為了讓票房好看衝高放映廳數而剪片
所造成的那些對電影本身最傷的影響
況且我在BvS身上看到Zack確實很想滿足高層、大眾、粉絲三方做出最大的努力
我到現在還記得他在某個訪談上面談到這件事時,說著當初他對老婆說
我們是不是做錯了什麼才造就了今天的局面,他的神情落寞依舊記得
你不得不承認DCEU在整個創建過程中
高層真的插手干預了不少事下了多少腦殘的決定
而唯一真的幾乎沒被插手的只有MoS跟WW而已
而且我沒要這些拍出來就追上MCU,就算真的拍出來了
也才只是到復1的階段,但重點是根基有打好
你根基有打好才能來談論人家的十年,況且MCU根基就鋪了4年五部
造原本預定也是鋪了3~4部才輪的到JL
最後附上DCEU各部電影票房跟光碟銷售
然後我忘了說上面所附的光碟銷售,是只有美國的部分
MoS
Worldwide:$668,045,518
Total Est. Domestic Video Sales $111,879,443
(美國國內銷售)
BvS
Worldwide:$873,634,919
Total Est. Domestic Video Sales $77,332,156
SS
Worldwide:$746,846,894
Total Est. Domestic Video Sales $94,865,515
WW
Worldwide:$821,847,012
Total Est. Domestic Video Sales $99,526,451
JL
Worldwide:$657,924,295
Total Est. Domestic Video Sales $35,320,969
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