Game of Thrones S03E09 - 歐美
By Tracy
at 2013-06-05T15:43
at 2013-06-05T15:43
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現在羅柏都死了,順便補充一下羅柏怎麼被影集裡改的面目全非
這幾天我重看了一下小說,其實整個北境+河間地敗亡的遠因,
真的應該怪到艾德慕和河間地諸侯
最早艾德慕和河間地敗給詹姆需要羅柏來救這不提,因為羅柏以一場大勝
挽回這些後果,詹姆的1萬6千軍隊,只有4000回到西境,騎兵被全部殲滅
這給後來羅柏掠奪西境打下基礎
沒錯,小說中羅柏早就已經打到了西境,不是在影集中一直處於空談,異想天開
羅柏在灰風開掛下神不知鬼不覺行軍,擊敗並殲滅了蘭尼斯特的新軍,
而他的皇后就是在這次掠奪中找到的,是一個西境貴族,
不是什麼外邦小護士,說真的,可以理解不拍維斯特林的戲碼,
但為何要直接拿掉掠奪西境?就算不拍,用口語也可以吧?
弄的後來羅柏就像只在談情說愛...兼天馬行空的空談
而且也讓後來羅柏罵艾德慕的戲變的很差,這也讓艾德慕看起來好像很可憐,
他沒有被告知全盤計劃(當然羅柏的計劃已被改的天馬行空),
看到蘭尼斯特想過河,他當然想出來抗擊泰溫,
讓泰溫不得以只能往南,滅掉史坦尼斯,至此羅柏一戰未輸,卻已輸掉整場戰爭
輸掉了北境獨立於鐵王座的希望
其實影集這裡也拿掉了極重要的一個橋段=>
艾德慕召喚了羅柏留在攣河城監視瓦德佛雷的軍隊(凱特琳強烈要求羅柏留的),
這導致佛雷軍隊敢在戰爭持續中,就直接離開國王,也因為沒有平常的監視部隊,
讓佛雷敢玩紅色婚禮,兩面手法,也順便再次降低羅柏跟凱特琳的程度...
其實凱特琳在這裡還蠻有遠見,只是後來蘭尼斯特和席恩,讓她的遠見都不見了
如果監視佛雷的軍隊還在,別說紅色婚禮沒有機會操辦,派恩佛雷和萊曼佛雷也
不敢直接退兵,這樣一來,羅柏甚至都還能讓波頓繼續牽制蘭尼斯特,
波頓也不能刻意拋掉白港,深林堡的近3000名軍隊,
還忠於羅柏的哈利昂卡史塔克的3000名步兵也不會被波頓派去送死
所以,凱特琳放走詹姆是讓羅柏對外沒籌碼,艾德慕抽回人馬,
是讓羅柏對內沒有籌碼,而且他急於立功,不夠尊重國王命令的心態,
更直接導致羅柏戰略失敗,不過人人都在罵有POV的凱特琳,
凱特琳生生在紅婚現場被殘殺,他艾德慕倒是活的好好的.....
而最後,又拿掉了海疆城=>羅柏在前往攣河城時,接到了鐵群島的消息,
已制定了奪回北境的戰略,並派北境的兩隻家族(逃過了紅色婚禮)坐船從海疆城,
到頸沼求兵於布蘭的正太朋友玖健的老爸
其實這一段......到之後劇情發生後回推,你就會知道羅柏這時充滿了新希望,
他的計劃一定可以成功,絕對可以,雖然說羅柏自己並不知情,
如果沒有紅色婚禮
小說中紅色婚禮並不像影集呈現的那樣,只是佛雷殘忍的表現,
佛雷明明有其他方法報仇而不用,事實上婚禮發生的時間點同樣很巧妙,
如果佛雷和波頓選擇用別的方法引羅柏進入陷阱,海疆城派出去的消息就有可能會回來,
只要那個消息回來......就知道羅柏這時已不是失去北境之王
真的很不滿意影集對於這一段的改編,完全減弱紅色婚禮的決定性,悲劇性,
看起來只有羅柏為自己的失誤付出代價而已
------------------------------------
至於是什麼新消息,喜歡看影集的都去看書吧~~~
然後到奇幻板討論討論,冰與火之歌真的好多東西可以討論啊啊啊(扭)
這一次紅婚出來,我也去重新精讀,發現了很多以前漏掉的東西
--
這幾天我重看了一下小說,其實整個北境+河間地敗亡的遠因,
真的應該怪到艾德慕和河間地諸侯
最早艾德慕和河間地敗給詹姆需要羅柏來救這不提,因為羅柏以一場大勝
挽回這些後果,詹姆的1萬6千軍隊,只有4000回到西境,騎兵被全部殲滅
這給後來羅柏掠奪西境打下基礎
沒錯,小說中羅柏早就已經打到了西境,不是在影集中一直處於空談,異想天開
羅柏在灰風開掛下神不知鬼不覺行軍,擊敗並殲滅了蘭尼斯特的新軍,
而他的皇后就是在這次掠奪中找到的,是一個西境貴族,
不是什麼外邦小護士,說真的,可以理解不拍維斯特林的戲碼,
但為何要直接拿掉掠奪西境?就算不拍,用口語也可以吧?
弄的後來羅柏就像只在談情說愛...兼天馬行空的空談
而且也讓後來羅柏罵艾德慕的戲變的很差,這也讓艾德慕看起來好像很可憐,
他沒有被告知全盤計劃(當然羅柏的計劃已被改的天馬行空),
看到蘭尼斯特想過河,他當然想出來抗擊泰溫,
讓泰溫不得以只能往南,滅掉史坦尼斯,至此羅柏一戰未輸,卻已輸掉整場戰爭
輸掉了北境獨立於鐵王座的希望
其實影集這裡也拿掉了極重要的一個橋段=>
艾德慕召喚了羅柏留在攣河城監視瓦德佛雷的軍隊(凱特琳強烈要求羅柏留的),
這導致佛雷軍隊敢在戰爭持續中,就直接離開國王,也因為沒有平常的監視部隊,
讓佛雷敢玩紅色婚禮,兩面手法,也順便再次降低羅柏跟凱特琳的程度...
其實凱特琳在這裡還蠻有遠見,只是後來蘭尼斯特和席恩,讓她的遠見都不見了
如果監視佛雷的軍隊還在,別說紅色婚禮沒有機會操辦,派恩佛雷和萊曼佛雷也
不敢直接退兵,這樣一來,羅柏甚至都還能讓波頓繼續牽制蘭尼斯特,
波頓也不能刻意拋掉白港,深林堡的近3000名軍隊,
還忠於羅柏的哈利昂卡史塔克的3000名步兵也不會被波頓派去送死
所以,凱特琳放走詹姆是讓羅柏對外沒籌碼,艾德慕抽回人馬,
是讓羅柏對內沒有籌碼,而且他急於立功,不夠尊重國王命令的心態,
更直接導致羅柏戰略失敗,不過人人都在罵有POV的凱特琳,
凱特琳生生在紅婚現場被殘殺,他艾德慕倒是活的好好的.....
而最後,又拿掉了海疆城=>羅柏在前往攣河城時,接到了鐵群島的消息,
已制定了奪回北境的戰略,並派北境的兩隻家族(逃過了紅色婚禮)坐船從海疆城,
到頸沼求兵於布蘭的正太朋友玖健的老爸
其實這一段......到之後劇情發生後回推,你就會知道羅柏這時充滿了新希望,
他的計劃一定可以成功,絕對可以,雖然說羅柏自己並不知情,
如果沒有紅色婚禮
小說中紅色婚禮並不像影集呈現的那樣,只是佛雷殘忍的表現,
佛雷明明有其他方法報仇而不用,事實上婚禮發生的時間點同樣很巧妙,
如果佛雷和波頓選擇用別的方法引羅柏進入陷阱,海疆城派出去的消息就有可能會回來,
只要那個消息回來......就知道羅柏這時已不是失去北境之王
真的很不滿意影集對於這一段的改編,完全減弱紅色婚禮的決定性,悲劇性,
看起來只有羅柏為自己的失誤付出代價而已
------------------------------------
至於是什麼新消息,喜歡看影集的都去看書吧~~~
然後到奇幻板討論討論,冰與火之歌真的好多東西可以討論啊啊啊(扭)
這一次紅婚出來,我也去重新精讀,發現了很多以前漏掉的東西
--
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