Pacific Rim / Transformers 特效比較 - 電影

By Margaret
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※ 引述《earthrise (yes)》之銘言:
: 動畫特效技術持續在進步,即使相隔不過數年,還是很明顯可以看出差別。但除此之外,
: 我想還是有其他項目值得討論。
: <Pacific Rim>
: 完全將夢想中的機器人+巨獸大戰具體呈現,並將巨大物體移動時的重量感、速度感拿捏
: 的很好,與環境的互動也非常細膩(海水、建築、道路、車輛)。導演分鏡動感而不雜亂
: ,戰鬥的氣氛有營造出來;且演員表現平穩,使觀眾能與劇中角色保持情感連結(就像裝
: 甲戰士之間drift一樣:p),不致於出神。
: <變形金剛>
: 第一集問世時,孩提印象中的2D卡通以3D姿態出現在眼前,活靈活現的機械變形
: 令人驚豔感動,但除此之外不論劇情或動作都表現平平。接下來兩集的表現可說每況愈下
: ,劇情低齡演技低能(雖然PR的劇本很普,但相較之下好像史詩巨作),動作調度屢屢失
: 焦,常只見一堆金屬在銀幕上翻滾碰撞,配上音效轟炸實在是很催眠。前文提到的速度感
: [變]系列處理的很差。什麼意思?比如舊時沒有動畫技術,多拍攝縮小模型,後製時必須
: 將影片速度調慢,再佐以其他技巧,使假面超人、哥吉拉、飛船、或是爆裂的建築物有體
: 積龐大的假象。但麥可貝或許為了營造他想要的刺激感,讓機器人以令觀眾幾乎看不清的
: 速度在銀幕上互毆亂晃,一方面令人頭暈,一方面考慮金剛的體積與質量,影片中根本是
: 以違反物理定律的方式在活動著,真實感大打折扣。(記得當初變三上映後我提到這點,
: 還被板上一堆粉絲嗆說「因為是外星來的!」=.=)
: 綜上,個人淺見 PR >>> T1 > T2 >> T3
變形金剛只是一部機器人展示秀
首先,麥可貝身為商業導演,卻把錢丟在觀眾不想看的地方
像西亞李碧佛一家的設定,完全不知道是在搞啥
已經神經病到了一般觀眾無法理解的地步
還有第一集的神經病政府代表(51區代表,後來去賣肉的)
也是一直展現神經病,戲分也超多
一堆神經病會是衝著"變形金剛"進來看的觀眾想看的嗎?
軍方算是正常的
可是第三集安排努力爬上摩天大樓,是要讓人類看來也有參與嗎??
問題是觀眾都想來看機器人
結果狂博開戰,畫面就直接切到這群人登高大賽
回來就看到博派全部投降
WTF~~~~~我來看機器人的耶
而且這群人花了這麼多篇幅,結果爬上去就是尖叫 不斷尖叫 一直尖叫
"柯柏文快來救我啊~~~~~~~~"
雖說人生不見得事事如意
但你安排這麼長的戲分,讓這些人爬上去,一上去就陷入險境
還為此省略狂博交戰的部分
接下來幹嘛不直接打上"某某壽險公司"幾個字好了
至少觀眾還可以理解你為什麼這樣做-------置入性賺錢啊
環太平洋在人類部分,像戀父的澳洲中二中二得有點奇怪
周的安排也是有點多餘
但是整體來說都還扯得到邊
再講機器人部分
變形金剛最有魅力的就在於 變形
很抱歉 除了一兩幕有玩變形特點
(ex:大黃蜂在兼用公路上,瞬間變形打人,接住人,變回車)
其他根本是純粹肉搏
變形勒
純肉搏也ok 但是就像原po說的
一堆扭打,鬼才看得清楚在打啥
環太平洋完全滿足機器人迷
動作看得清清楚楚
這才是會買單機器人電影觀眾要的啊
或許有人覺得車諾比阿爾發和紅赤風暴收得草率
但至少是配角啦
看看變形金剛
柯博文很帥氣的一打三 秒殺兩個後 莫名其妙噴掉了
密卡登被一個莫名其妙的女人用了很腦殘的對話就挑撥了
然後在短短一分鐘內,密卡登捕槍御天
然後換柯博文秒掉御天和密卡登
商業大導賣靠背到底知不知道觀眾要什麼!?
不過環太平洋也有個大缺點
最後BOSS LV5 好像沒很有特色 也沒威起來 形象也不是很清楚就是了
--
聶風欲殺聶子易風,第二夢撲出阻擋聶風
"不要啊,他本性很善良的,一定是被壞朋友帶壞的!"
by ckshchen
--
: 動畫特效技術持續在進步,即使相隔不過數年,還是很明顯可以看出差別。但除此之外,
: 我想還是有其他項目值得討論。
: <Pacific Rim>
: 完全將夢想中的機器人+巨獸大戰具體呈現,並將巨大物體移動時的重量感、速度感拿捏
: 的很好,與環境的互動也非常細膩(海水、建築、道路、車輛)。導演分鏡動感而不雜亂
: ,戰鬥的氣氛有營造出來;且演員表現平穩,使觀眾能與劇中角色保持情感連結(就像裝
: 甲戰士之間drift一樣:p),不致於出神。
: <變形金剛>
: 第一集問世時,孩提印象中的2D卡通以3D姿態出現在眼前,活靈活現的機械變形
: 令人驚豔感動,但除此之外不論劇情或動作都表現平平。接下來兩集的表現可說每況愈下
: ,劇情低齡演技低能(雖然PR的劇本很普,但相較之下好像史詩巨作),動作調度屢屢失
: 焦,常只見一堆金屬在銀幕上翻滾碰撞,配上音效轟炸實在是很催眠。前文提到的速度感
: [變]系列處理的很差。什麼意思?比如舊時沒有動畫技術,多拍攝縮小模型,後製時必須
: 將影片速度調慢,再佐以其他技巧,使假面超人、哥吉拉、飛船、或是爆裂的建築物有體
: 積龐大的假象。但麥可貝或許為了營造他想要的刺激感,讓機器人以令觀眾幾乎看不清的
: 速度在銀幕上互毆亂晃,一方面令人頭暈,一方面考慮金剛的體積與質量,影片中根本是
: 以違反物理定律的方式在活動著,真實感大打折扣。(記得當初變三上映後我提到這點,
: 還被板上一堆粉絲嗆說「因為是外星來的!」=.=)
: 綜上,個人淺見 PR >>> T1 > T2 >> T3
變形金剛只是一部機器人展示秀
首先,麥可貝身為商業導演,卻把錢丟在觀眾不想看的地方
像西亞李碧佛一家的設定,完全不知道是在搞啥
已經神經病到了一般觀眾無法理解的地步
還有第一集的神經病政府代表(51區代表,後來去賣肉的)
也是一直展現神經病,戲分也超多
一堆神經病會是衝著"變形金剛"進來看的觀眾想看的嗎?
軍方算是正常的
可是第三集安排努力爬上摩天大樓,是要讓人類看來也有參與嗎??
問題是觀眾都想來看機器人
結果狂博開戰,畫面就直接切到這群人登高大賽
回來就看到博派全部投降
WTF~~~~~我來看機器人的耶
而且這群人花了這麼多篇幅,結果爬上去就是尖叫 不斷尖叫 一直尖叫
"柯柏文快來救我啊~~~~~~~~"
雖說人生不見得事事如意
但你安排這麼長的戲分,讓這些人爬上去,一上去就陷入險境
還為此省略狂博交戰的部分
接下來幹嘛不直接打上"某某壽險公司"幾個字好了
至少觀眾還可以理解你為什麼這樣做-------置入性賺錢啊
環太平洋在人類部分,像戀父的澳洲中二中二得有點奇怪
周的安排也是有點多餘
但是整體來說都還扯得到邊
再講機器人部分
變形金剛最有魅力的就在於 變形
很抱歉 除了一兩幕有玩變形特點
(ex:大黃蜂在兼用公路上,瞬間變形打人,接住人,變回車)
其他根本是純粹肉搏
變形勒
純肉搏也ok 但是就像原po說的
一堆扭打,鬼才看得清楚在打啥
環太平洋完全滿足機器人迷
動作看得清清楚楚
這才是會買單機器人電影觀眾要的啊
或許有人覺得車諾比阿爾發和紅赤風暴收得草率
但至少是配角啦
看看變形金剛
柯博文很帥氣的一打三 秒殺兩個後 莫名其妙噴掉了
密卡登被一個莫名其妙的女人用了很腦殘的對話就挑撥了
然後在短短一分鐘內,密卡登捕槍御天
然後換柯博文秒掉御天和密卡登
商業大導賣靠背到底知不知道觀眾要什麼!?
不過環太平洋也有個大缺點
最後BOSS LV5 好像沒很有特色 也沒威起來 形象也不是很清楚就是了
--
聶風欲殺聶子易風,第二夢撲出阻擋聶風
"不要啊,他本性很善良的,一定是被壞朋友帶壞的!"
by ckshchen
--
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