RE:小組長裁決「西斯案」申訴結果 - 三立

By Sarah
at 2010-01-01T06:58
at 2010-01-01T06:58
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本案申訴者不符申訴資格,本案結案。
涉及特定個人權利,須由權利人自行提出或授權提出,
且「警告」之處置,對使用者的推文及發文權利無受損之虞。
這是群組的判決。
這個判決只有說明,我不符合申訴資格。
並沒有對於"四角褲晃動"是否為西斯做出解釋。
有版友也認同,可見不是只有我一個人覺得。
→ sugodo:我覺得那不算裁示 因為他只是說明 "當事人並無意見所以不受01/01 04:18
→ sugodo:理" 並不代表小組長們認為那些句子構成西斯吧?(我覺得啦)01/01 04:19
推 palapala888:好嚴格= =12/30 01:41
推 sab:對演員的觀察完全無涉風月甚至器官名稱耶 拜託12/30 01:57
→ sab:整個做法愈來愈誇張了12/30 01:58
→ sillycee:風氣越來越.....今天路過看一下居然本版已經連激突都不能12/30 02:08
推 sab:老實說 這種自我感覺良好的偽嚴謹只顯得幼稚12/30 02:48
→ sillycee:禁止人身攻擊我贊成 但是明明今天被警告得板友也不是故意12/30 03:03
→ sillycee:講西斯的事12/30 03:05
→ MicroGuan:其實我覺得還好耶 沒有很西斯 12/30 08:25
→ piwawa:為什麼這樣就要警告?!好莫名其妙... 12/30 09:07
噓 fr606419:版主有點太過火了我覺得 這哪有啥.. 12/30 09:10
噓 panshow:要戒嚴了嗎? 12/30 09:26
噓 panshow:三立八點檔太多聖人 現在推文也要聖人化了 阿彌佗佛 12/30 09:33
→ lizard95:板主這是真的太誇張了 又沒詆毀到演員本身 WTF? 12/30 10:12
噓 fungirl3645:標準在哪? 太誇張了吧 沒有很西斯阿 12/30 10:21
→ sab:所以版主完全沒有要說明的意思嗎 12/30 10:38
噓 avonboy:笑死人了 這哪裡西斯 版主這樣當的 莫名奇妙嘛~ 12/30 10:49
推 sab:很抱歉我就是女性 我不覺得這些就算是西斯 12/30 10:53
→ panshow:如果這樣推就西施 那一堆外遇劇情不就是A片內容了 12/30 10:55
→ sab:如果要無限上綱到這種地步 那無事不可掰做西斯 12/30 10:57
→ sab:板友看到畫面上來問一下 不是幻想或意淫就叫西斯 出家比較快 12/30 10:58
→ sab:我剛說了淫字跟掰字 算不算西斯 12/30 10:59
推 panshow:那上一檔美鳳常常穿深V領 一堆人推文好大 好深 怎麼都沒事 12/30 11:00
→ panshow:現在推個突起物就出事了 12/30 11:00
→ sab:我相信大多數人不會認為這就叫"西斯" 12/30 11:00
→ panshow:這又不是無中生有的推文 畫面就是這樣演 照時的推文罷了 12/30 11:01
噓 tvbic:板主下台吧 12/30 11:02
→ sab:如果推文是"大雕"還比較有爭議 已經用很委婉的"突起物"了 12/30 11:02
→ sab:老實說之前的警告文已經游走在濫權邊緣了 這篇只是那根稻草 12/30 11:03
推 sab:嚴格很好 我贊成嚴格 但是雞蛋裡挑骨頭不叫嚴格 12/30 11:06
→ panshow:那以後劇中有男演員裸上身或穿緊身衣 有人推 胸肌好大阿 12/30 11:06
→ panshow:這樣算不算西施 12/30 11:07
→ sab:現在的重點不是該不該禁西斯或哪檔有禁 而是已經太矯情偽善 12/30 11:09
→ panshow:現在搞的根戒嚴沒兩樣了 12/30 11:11
→ sab:古巴跟北韓比起來也算開放的。 12/30 11:12
噓 lizard95:什麼都不能推 那乾脆LIVE推文下面都貼佛經就好啦 滿意了? 12/30 11:12
→ lizard95:說女生胸部大就不行 說男人胸肌大快就可以? 什麼邏輯? 12/30 11:13
→ panshow:推激突就警告 跟兩蔣時代亂抓禁歌有啥兩樣 12/30 11:14
→ sab:其實這還不到版主要下台的地步 但方法該調整了 12/30 11:14
→ lizard95:女人就不會以男人的身材來滿足自己主觀上的情慾嗎? 12/30 11:15
→ sab:我笑了 女生的胸部=男生的某物 12/30 11:15
→ sandwich:版主好大的官威阿~ 12/30 11:15
推 sab:哪裡有形容形狀?!拜託 原推文者只是說它突起 12/30 11:25
→ sab:要泛道德化到什麼地步才滿意 12/30 11:25
→ panshow:原來突起物是形容形狀阿 ψ(╯▽╰ ) 記下來12/30 11:27
推 JCeve:我是覺得覺得對版主管版尺度有意見可以提出來討論,但很多 12/30 11:27
推 lizard95:突起也叫作形狀or特徵喔 厲害厲害 12/30 11:27
→ JCeve:情緒性的語言或猜測可以盡量避免吧。另外,第二性徵之論是 12/30 11:28
→ sab:"只要有一個人覺得害羞就可以算西斯" 這樣是對的嗎? 12/30 11:29
→ JCeve:延續前面版友所提之胸肌與胸部的異同~。 12/30 11:29
→ akirafan:對啊,其實大家對尺度或名詞定義有想法,各自提出來討論 12/30 11:33
推 avw:突起不就是形容形狀嗎? 害我跑去查字典 =___= 12/30 11:33
→ akirafan:就好了,不要一下就對版主嗆聲,要管一個版,不容易耶。 12/30 11:34
→ akirafan:而且最近三立版人氣真的旺很多,各種大小爭端不斷,版主 12/30 11:34
→ akirafan:真的很辛苦難為~ 12/30 11:34
→ panshow:現在就是在討論阿 嗆版主只是少數人 12/30 11:35
→ sab:管版辛不辛苦跟方式有沒有問題是兩回事吧 一碼歸一碼 12/30 11:37
推 avw:突起=動詞? 突起物=名詞 凸=形容詞 12/30 11:37
推 okesasa:avw乾脆附上字典的說明好了!!! XDD 12/30 11:37
→ sab:版面需要的是「管理」 不是「管教」 版主不該站在管教高度 12/30 11:38
→ sab:我認為完全是過度管教 無限上綱地定義西斯 12/30 11:39
→ sab:一直在討論的不是怎樣算西斯標準 而是這次判決的推文是否西斯 12/30 11:42
推 sillycee:我也是女生 我也不覺得那些描述西斯 板風變得很怪 罵壞人 12/30 12:31
→ sillycee:用 賤人 這兩個字沒事 突起物 激突卻被警告 怪哉! 12/30 12:32
推 okesasa:噗~ 這也算是一種兩難吧!! XDDD 12/30 12:39
噓 titanbc:會不會管呀 不會就快下台啦 突起物是指什麼啦? 警告勒~~ 12/30 12:52
推 sillycee:事情也沒到要下台這麼嚴重啦 12/30 12:53
→ allwinest:也覺得沒到西斯耶..難不成要嚴肅的推文嗎? 12/30 13:01
噓 piwawa:激突到底哪裡西斯阿?自己腦袋一堆西斯 看見什麼也都西斯了 12/30 13:17
→ piwawa:搞成這樣真的很無聊... 12/30 13:19
噓 meegan:激突沒啥吧..只是在形容上半身沒有多穿件內衣而已 很正常啊 12/30 13:50
→ dichia:矯枉過正 12/30 13:51
→ jokerjoe:我覺得有點誇張了... 12/30 13:55
→ agriculture:請看清楚文章第一句 再告訴我這是在講上半身 12/30 14:27
噓 jogsweet:激突 不西斯吧... 12/30 14:30
→ dichia:重點也不用擺在是講上面還下面 激突這詞說是西斯會不會太牽 12/30 14:34
→ dichia:強 12/30 14:34
噓 emil27:我是gay 我看到胸肌也會高潮可以嘛?!! 這樣很西斯吧 12/30 14:54
→ emil27:還什麼胸部跟胸肌不一樣勒 = = 12/30 14:55
→ emil27:扯到女生胸部=男生某物?!?! 我以為我載JokE板勒 12/30 14:56
噓 julie79:太誇張了!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 12/30 19:36
噓 julie79:矯枉過正+1 自以為聖人 12/30 19:39
噓 one1683:真扯!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 12/30 19:39
噓 GaBrIeL34:四腳褲晃動也不行? 12/30 20:06
→ sillycee:那板主有給捍衛那幾位版友說話的權利嗎? 明明不西斯01/01 03:59
噓 sillycee:哪裡? 誰穿內衣褲在走動或有動作時不會晃?01/01 04:04
→ sillycee:突起物或許是小腹啊 可能有人想太多 01/01 04:07
→ sillycee:本來覺得板主難當很辛苦 但看到這幾天的態度覺得很嗆01/01 04:05
→ mkdycoca:我覺得more6大很衰 他只是說四角褲在晃動又不是突起12/30 15:32
→ mkdycoca:而且自己再去看一遍 他真的晃很嚴重12/30 15:33
推 lizard95:你哪來的證據證明more6是在回他樓上推文? 神明天啟?12/30 15:51
噓 panshow:自推自演 不當編劇可惜了 說四角褲在晃就西施12/30 15:52
噓 panshow:這版感覺就像是那種保護孩子過度的家長 大驚小怪12/30 15:55
→ dichia:這樣推演跟水果的看圖說故事有什麼不一樣...orz 12/30 15:57
推 lizard95:再者 四角褲晃動=勃起? 那可以說女性T-SHIRT晃動=乳搖?12/30 15:58
→ lizard95:我不清楚板主性別 但是有些天賦異稟的男士就算沒有勃起也12/30 15:58
→ lizard95:會激突的12/30 15:58
→ coolmilktea:路過 也太誇張 兩個版主都對西斯這麼敏感喔... 暈12/30 16:02
推 more6:我只想說我沒有覺得他勃起啦...但是覺得四角褲在晃動 12/30 16:48
→ more6:室友說版上一定有人討論,我看到有人推文,所以我回應 12/30 16:49
→ more6:所以,版主推論沒有問題....但我還是覺得我沒有西斯12/30 16:49
→ more6:不過,大概以後都會淺水吧!第一次浮上來就被警告還滿錯愕12/30 16:50
噓 sillycee:性徵明明就是很正常的東西 就人的器官 本來想說版主難當12/30 17:16
→ sillycee:不噓 可是看到這篇只感覺你們在自圓其說12/30 17:16
→ amazingfish:時間點的那句我打錯 推自圓其說法 這個懲罰實在很無聊12/30 17:18
→ lzu:要不是沒噓了必噓 12/30 17:54
噓 blueash:還滿扯的 好像已經矯枉過正了 12/30 18:43
噓 rita1119:很扯 麻煩版主再處理一次好嗎 12/30 19:15
噓 one1683:真扯!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 12/30 19:46
噓 julie79:.......................................... 12/30 19:46
噓 rita1119:應該是版主要提出大家都可接受的標準 12/30 20:01
噓 blueash:還是很想噓 版主是不錯 但是這件事真的太過分了 12/30 20:22
噓 titanbc:"激突"不可以指"奶頭"嗎??他也沒說那裡突呀,幹麻自己先入 12/30 20:24
噓 ya5698:這理由還真牽強... 12/30 20:24
→ titanbc:為主的認為?? 該說你比較邪惡還是比較敏感勒?? 12/30 20:24
噓 panshow:萬歲 萬歲 萬萬歲~~~此版戒嚴 發言小心為慎 12/30 20:25
→ titanbc:"四角褲在晃動"誰又規定一定是"性器官"引起的??穿的比較寬 12/30 20:25
→ ya5698:說真的 看到其實也不會想太多...太敏感了吧... 12/30 20:26
→ titanbc:或是風比較大有沒有可能會晃?? 12/30 20:26
→ titanbc:你說歡迎討論的,那還麻煩你解釋清楚~ 12/30 20:27
→ titanbc:你說推文會讓部份版友不舒服,那是否開個投票,看看到底要怎 12/30 20:28
→ titanbc:麼管版,不該是少數人甚至你自己的認定就這樣管吧~~ 12/30 20:29
噓 titanbc:"四角褲在晃"到底憑啥須要警告??這是那門子的尺度?? 12/30 20:36
噓 panshow:我夏天穿內褲吹電扇 內褲也很晃 12/30 20:40
噓 blueash:罷免是太過分了 版主是很辛苦的 只是這件事確實太過火了 12/30 20:40
噓 a0955962257a:如果不小心打志輝是色小孩是不是也要警告 真的很誇張12/30 20:41
噓 one1683:版主開心就好12/30 21:00
噓 ya5698:版主滿意就好...12/30 21:01
噓 blueash:沒有人叫你下台 我們也知道版主辛苦 但是這次標準太扯了 12/30 21:02
→ ya5698:有稍微去看一下原推文...m版友可以說只是在描述情況... 12/30 21:15
→ ya5698:那如果要被這樣認為只能說有點太敏感了... 12/30 21:16
噓 panshow:這是聖人版 反正偉大版主都認定這樣有錯 戒嚴時期多忍耐 12/30 21:24
噓 mkdycoca:我就不信你看的時候沒有想說「喔 他那裡好晃」 12/30 21:31
推 tvbic:講一堆癈話 板主快下台比較實際 12/30 22:12
噓 rita1119:很明顯大部分的人不服 請問版主該怎麼處理 12/30 22:15
噓 titanbc:請問"內褲晃動"到底那裡須要解釋是什麼意思?? 12/30 22:41
噓 poiul:爛透了!!12/31 00:01
→ coolmilktea:我覺得問題出在 版眾和版主 認定的 「西斯用語」是否12/31 01:41
→ coolmilktea:相同 因為西斯的確是SEX諧音沒錯 但是否版眾都認為是12/31 01:42
→ coolmilktea:腥羶色等露骨字眼的意思? 我覺得是可以討論的 12/31 01:43
→ coolmilktea:可以弄個投票什麼的,版眾表達意見 版主形象也可以不 12/31 01:44
→ coolmilktea:那麼專制 12/31 01:44
噓 jogsweet:晃個四角褲而已 就可以無限上綱到這種程度 還要人家解釋 12/31 04:10
→ jogsweet:要不要打一篇報告給你過目啊˙ 12/31 04:10
→ jogsweet:版上有些文章還直接在開頭罵賤XX的 推文也很兇 都沒關係12/31 04:11
→ jogsweet:晃個四角褲就天搖地動12/31 04:11
噓 funnyrain:布做的東西不會晃 難道是木雕的四角褲嗎12/31 08:12
噓 avonboy:護航什麼??照樣噓爆你 發這種廢文~12/31 08:45
噓 sugodo:我建議大家直接跟站方反應 在這裡跟板主吵沒用(茶12/31 12:05
→ sugodo:反正他們永遠認為他們是對的XD12/31 12:05
版主應該對於西斯文的模糊/灰色 地帶更明確規範。
而不是自由心證。
→ sillycee:更明確的描述對西斯的定義 這樣同樣的事就能避免再發生01/01 04:15
→ sillycee:我的意思不是在對西斯那件事要做怎樣處理 是希望避免再發 01/01 04:17
推 yihuey:這樣講...龍慧滾床算西斯情節幻想嗎???01/01 04:28
→ sillycee:對啊 滾床就被允許01/01 04:29
→ sillycee:情侶在滾床 真西斯01/01 04:30
推 Lenny115:其實我蠻讚成S大或F大的某些論點,四角褲晃動和滾床 01/01 05:05
→ Lenny115:這個西斯點的認定實在是很模糊 01/01 05:05
→ IamNotyet:滾床可以滾得很天真爛漫呀,但四角褲晃動天真爛漫....?01/01 04:32
版主卻說滾床很浪漫,何以見得?
推 Lenny115:我支持如果有必要就多增訂些版規,例如刪改版友推噓文 01/01 04:55
→ Lenny115:既然有爭議那就補上漏洞,避免夜長夢多 01/01 04:56
另
剛剛我有請教西斯版主,他認為"四角褲晃動"並非構成西斯。
他認為"滾床"可算可不算,要看前後文。
這是某位西斯版主的說明:)
BTW 我只是點出別人的看法,如果要噓不想討論我也沒轍。
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