The King 永遠的君主-常見問題 - 韓劇
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隨著劇情來到第十二集,出現了很多訊息,文章雨後春筍地冒出來,live文也炸開,整理
一些常見問題幫助大家討論。
建議先看完live文底下整裡的懶人包,不管臉盲、歷史考古、時間軸的問題,相信這些整
理文都能幫你解決大多數的問題。
以下問題基本上都是之前討論整理過的了,避免不好找特地挑出來。
1. 劇情裡出現的各種花
#1Uomeg0p (KoreaDrama)
R大的考古篇2 有解釋了李袞在第十集送給太乙的花是翠雀
以及太乙從帝國帶回的種子-相思花,這兩者是不同的。
此外,第十二集中,李袞送給太乙的項鍊是-李花
我查了一下是以前李氏王朝統治時期的國花。
無窮花 = 木槿花≠李花=李樹開的花
2. 金素月詩集-《杜鵑花》
#1Uomeg0p (KoreaDrama)
金素月為日治時期的朝鮮詩人,他的詩大多帶有傷感、憂鬱的感覺。
此本詩集出現在第三集與第四集中,當時李袞從民國書店帶回帝國,
放在已失去鑽石鈕扣的外套中,當時口袋裡還有炸雞店集點卡與敏鎬的娃娃minomi
詩集最後被盧尚宮收走了。
在第三集末,盧尚宮念的詩是〈招魂〉:
「支離破碎的名字啊,消散在空中的名字啊,呼喚卻無回應的名字啊,
讓我呼喚致死的名字啊,留在我心中的那句話始終沒能說出口,我愛過的那個人啊」
而第十二集,教堂拍照時口白出現的詩句是出自〈溪畔〉:
「是什麼緣故使你如此? 在這青草冒出翠綠的新芽,
水面因春風泛起漣漪之際獨自一人茫然地坐在溪邊?
許是你曾承諾即便離去,也不會一走了之
我日日坐在溪邊,反覆不停地思量著
你許下不會一走了之的承諾,是否在請求我別將你忘懷?」
第十集開頭,太乙與李袞的竹林擁抱,出現〈吾家〉:
「我注視著破曉時分,經過此處的過路人,一次次地猜想 會不會是你」
3. 盧尚宮在第十二集中與太乙的對話
同見 #1Uomeg0p (KoreaDrama)
另外,之前版友補充 飾演盧尚宮的金英玉,1937年出生,也是歷經過韓戰時期的資深演
員。
4. 為什麼太乙要跟李袞說還有兩顆子彈?
子彈的解釋因人而異,可以參考s大與r大兩人的說明。
sofa89: 其實李袞很自責因為自己讓太乙捲入這種危險,害她真的拿槍為了保護自己而殺
人,所以把子彈用掉也是代表接下來我會保護你,你不需要再用槍去保護自己了,其實李
袞的表情在用掉槍,丟很遠的時候是有憤恨的,然後下一句台詞就是溫柔的對太乙說"我
們回宮吧" 所以我感受到的就是李袞像在對太乙說"現在都結束了我們回家吧"的意思。
raininglight: 那把槍,上面有太乙=LUNA的指紋,等於有太乙在帝國開槍的證據.李袞
接去開完兩槍,那槍就是他開的,槍上面也會留下李袞的指紋,李袞把槍開完扔了,也有
告訴她不要擔心這種事的意味。
*5/26補充:有人提出兩顆子彈有一顆是要自盡用的想法
可以看看angylok、diana840902兩位在底下推文的說明。
5. 溜溜球男孩與太乙的對話?
太乙在路上看到釜山主宮的路牌時才意識到身處大韓帝國,但和男孩對話時卻說出:「原
來在這裡也有一個阿」,這裡應該就是個小bug。
提供英文字幕給大家參考:
you’re in this world too. There’s only one of me. I went to the other world.
這一幕我們知道溜溜球男孩是獨一獨二的存在,表示當初在民國撞到太乙的男孩也是他。
「當有危險時我負責通報,並擊退敵人。」
「我試著維持平衡,但敵人實在太多了。」
6. 時空裂縫的時間流逝速度與暫停時間的計算方式
裂縫中時間的流動速度與外界不同。
第五集中,李袞告訴太乙,裡面的一分鐘等於外面(指民國、帝國)的一小時
第九集李袞說在裡面待一天約等於外面世界的兩個月。
第十一集我們得知靜止時間正以質數的平方迅速增加中,同見 #1Uomeg0p (KoreaDrama)
R大也製作了時間對照表 https://i.imgur.com/ALUZiBX.jpg
李袞在書房計算時間時說到:第一次他錯過了,第二次121秒,接下來841秒、961秒、2209
秒、3481秒,不斷增加。
我們數學家李袞說當次數來到第62次,也就是質數293,那麼就會停滯近一天的時間。
而在教堂拍照時同樣發生了時間暫停,太乙與李袞的第一次合照要等一個小時,他能不哭
嗎!(誤)
6-1.為何靜止時間從李袞穿越後才開始計算?
時間暫停應該也與笛子的作用有關。
推 rainknife418: 以觀眾角度來看第一次出現時間暫停是李袞穿越後李霖
顏料掉落開始,第二次則是李霖回到帝國去書店李袞在
公園看到太乙綁頭髮,這兩次的時間表現都很短,以此
類推加上R大的時間表,覺得幾乎可以推斷時空裂痕是
兩邊都穿越才開始的。
7. 手機搜尋紀錄
第十集中,太乙到飯店給曹影送小菜時給她看的手機搜尋紀錄,就是當時李袞念的口白:
「想知道我查過什麼?皇帝是絕對不會留下痕跡的,現在是你的工作還是日常?我在你
的世界裡的時時刻刻,是因為鄭太乙警衛過的十分不平靜。」
第五集太乙到帝國時曾經跟李袞借過手機,當時的搜尋紀錄是: 歐拉數、氣球能在空中飄
多久、李袞、皇后、李袞前女友、總理、具瑞怜、具瑞怜身材、調味炸雞、警察薪資等。
李袞解釋他和總理是星期五見面的關係,太乙回他:他是IU嗎?
出自IU的歌-星期五見面 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiVmQZwJhsA
8. 太乙買給李袞的手機通訊錄
請見N大寫的翻譯篇 #1Uoa5M3s (KoreaDrama)
另外,太乙買給李袞的手機殼是白馬圖案。
9. 破解電腦密碼、愛看劇的曹誾燮
曹影的電腦密碼 J+13個零,(=兆 零)曹影名字的韓文諧音。
曹影的EMAIL:[email protected]
誾燮看石副隊長的資料"北部"說 WINTER IS COMING是在模仿影集冰與火之歌的台詞
另外NickeyOrli大解釋:
誾燮在默念副隊長石浩弼的名字還有一個美劇梗,越獄風雲男主角叫Scofield,
石浩弼是韓國人幫Scofield 取的在地化暱稱!
而在前往帝國前剃髮的誾燮,是模仿韓影-大叔。
誾燮拿李袞的面罩機講了一句東尼,並模仿鋼鐵人動作。
10.在帝國書店死去的到底是誰?一開始在帝國的心腹嗎?
在帝國死掉的是民國部下(司機).被提前換過去了。
11.燒燙燒中心的猜測
版上有簡單整理目前有穿越兩個世界的人 #1UoXYnhP (KoreaDrama)
目前有出現傷痕的人:
李袞、李霖、帝國書店老闆、李尚道、具總理、不重要的李霖手下
出現傷痕的要件,依照大家討論後可以猜測為:
a. 必須穿越過
b. 另一個世界的分身非自然死亡
依照這兩個條件推知:
李袞→若我們的假設成立,民國李知勳就能確認死亡了。
太乙、露娜、曹影、曹誾燮→有穿越但都還活著,所以沒有傷痕。
兩個世界的孕婦、民國袞媽→未穿越,所以沒有傷痕。
姜薪栽→八歲穿越,但未出現傷痕,應該是因為民國薪栽當初是(自然)病死的。
盧尚宮→已知最早穿越者,可能當初帝國的分身是自然死亡,待下集分解。
具總理→有出現傷痕,有可能民國具誾兒已死亡,待下集分解。
覺得李霖跟具總理的傷痕位置不太優
一個在臉上一個是胸口至脖子,想遮都沒辦法呢~
李袞則是倒楣,李知勳死亡又不是因為他。
★. 未解之謎
a. 萬波息笛的完整功能
b. 第一集出現的黑衣人與太乙工作證
c. 2022年5月27日的未來影片
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其他無用小發現:
面罩在第三集中有出現 (我的NETFLIX截不了圖……)
13:30處,總理在看皇室貼文:
「陛下保養中,穿透面罩的耀眼龍顏,數學病無藥可醫,臉蛋是國格」
第五集李袞帶太乙入宮,要曹影也不能待在書房裡
網飛翻譯-聖旨,而非平時出現的翻譯-皇命。
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大致上應該就是這些了,如果有錯誤或遺漏的再請大家補充。
看個劇為什麼這麼累呢哈哈哈
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