《KANO》:超越框架而和解? - 電影

By Delia
at 2014-03-14T14:15
at 2014-03-14T14:15
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在下原PO,我想簡單回復一下。
→ tomchun6:你講的似乎太遠了點...不從身邊做起從哪做起? 03/14 03:28
→ tomchun6:殖民與種族問題魏談得不夠?現在哪隻國片談得比他還深還 03/14 03:32
→ tomchun6:要有影響力的?說明白點我們在這的討論也得歸在影響裡面 03/14 03:33
→ tomchun6:所以你到底期待他一次做到多少?包山包海? 03/14 03:33
→ tomchun6:一部電影能談的方向有限,企圖太大反而可能弄巧成拙的 03/14 03:34
→ tomchun6:事實上光是現在這幾部探討的內容就讓許多人吃不消了 03/14 03:36
基本上我認為,這是拍攝歷史電影(是的,我認為《KANO》算是「歷史電影」)的
原罪。
假設今天魏導和馬導把歷史的背景抽掉,把故事放在2014年的臺灣,拍一個「在東部
的一間小高中,學生有著本省人原住民外省人新臺灣人第二代,組了一隻棒球隊。在
如嚴父般的教練的帶領下不分族群團結一致相信彼此苦練一年,打進全國高中棒球聯
賽冠軍戰但最後功敗垂成」的電影,我相信不會有太多人質疑他不談「殖民、種族」
的問題。
簡而言之,如果這個故事講的是「我們應該要去追求這個光明的理想世界啊」,那當
然爭議性就不大。
但是《KANO》講的並不是這樣的故事,它是改編自歷史上真實發生過的故事。也就是
說,這電影講的是「你看在很久以前,歷史上曾經有過這樣子光明的理想世界啊」。
那麼作為觀眾,會探問的問題就很自然是:
「真的嗎?」「真的是這樣嗎?」
所以我並不認為這是我在吹毛求疵或是找麻煩。要拍認真的歷史故事,就是應該受到
檢視。我當然知道電影劇情有主線推進的需求,我也不會覺得一部以棒球為主題的電
影應該要拍個霧社事件,但是從一些小處或者細節來營造整體氣氛,這絕對不是做不
到的。
(題外話,我認為《大稻埕》會引起爭議,相當程度就是因為觀眾不太確定這到底是
一部單純的笑鬧賀歲喜劇,還是一部「其實有點認真」的穿越歷史劇。若是前者,沒
有人會計較蔣渭水到底有沒有被關過水牢,但若是後者,那就不能在這種事情上太隨
便。)
推 lanuvie:我知道原原po的意思 也知道原po的意思 樓上tom大有講出我 03/14 11:08
→ lanuvie:想講的意思。原po說的話乍聽之下是沒有錯的、有道理的,但 03/14 11:09
→ lanuvie:對我來說,那"只是出一張嘴"。誰不知道要從體制做起?但, 03/14 11:09
→ lanuvie:一個國家的人民如果連想換總統都做不到,談什麼改體制?那 03/14 11:09
→ lanuvie:要等到何時才能改體制?而且,個人的善意跟體制的改變根本 03/14 11:10
→ lanuvie:也就沒有衝突啊,當你的小孩在班上有三分之一越南裔的同學 03/14 11:11
→ lanuvie:那你要教的他的是"當下"如何尊重別人,與人相處,不是等體 03/14 11:11
→ lanuvie:制改變了、對新移民友善了再教他,現在就可以教他友善。 03/14 11:12
我想我並沒有說「個人的作為沒意義」這種話。我也沒有拿「體制」去否定「個人
的善意」。正好相反,我認為這兩者本來就可能並存。但是當觀眾都接受了「你看
歷史上曾經有過這樣光明理想的世界啊」這種說法的時候,我不敢確定大家還記不
記得體制的存在。
→ lanuvie:如果回到電影來講,我們都知道原po的期待,但是,一部電影 03/14 11:13
→ lanuvie:就只能有一個主題,不要旁枝太多才會好看,就像前面說的, 03/14 11:13
→ lanuvie:現在這樣的深度就已經有人受不了了,不需要再加太多旁枝, 03/14 11:14
→ lanuvie:不然只會變成四不像而已。馬導魏導想借棒球表達永不放棄的 03/14 11:14
→ lanuvie:精神、或是跨越族群藩籬達成融合,那也就是從棒球中表現, 03/14 11:16
→ lanuvie:而非什麼都要探討然後棒球變陪襯,棒球還是主體的。 03/14 11:17
→ lanuvie:當然大家也是相信他們所以期待才會高啦,只是覺得,電影畢 03/14 11:17
→ lanuvie:竟是商業作品(非紀錄片),敘事也要顧慮到觀者是否能接受 03/14 11:18
→ lanuvie:不是指內容意義的接受,是指"是否能消化得了" 03/14 11:19
棒球這條主線當然很重要。我應該也已經表達了,我覺得棒球的部分拍得很好看?
但是說真的,若要講好這個故事,只講棒球是不夠的。而且我也認為,當魏導選了
這樣的題材,他就已經知道這部電影需要處理的不只是棒球。否則正如我之前說的,
就直接拍個與歷史無關的棒球故事,不是簡單得多嗎?
當然或許這是一種愛之深責之切的心態。不過我也認為,《KANO》這個故事的深度
是遠遠超過「熱血」「感動」或者「大家都是好朋友」的層次的。既然如此,那我
便會用比較嚴格的眼光來檢視它。
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