《神力女超人》導演回擊名導柯麥隆「退步 - 電影
By Leila
at 2017-08-25T19:59
at 2017-08-25T19:59
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※ 引述《shengchiu303 (Sheng)》之銘言:
: https://geek-base.toy-people.com/?p=1602
: 文/站長波特蘭
: 《神力女超人》導演回擊名導柯麥隆「退步說」:「他雖是好導演,但他不是女人」
: 美西時間今天稍早,好萊塢知名導演詹姆士柯麥隆對於《神力女超人》一片,針對他自己
: 對該片女主角黛安娜認為是「被物化」的角色,並且只是單純地「性主導的好萊塢在做和
: 過去沒啥兩樣的老把戲」,所以整體而言他認為該片其實是好萊塢的「一大退步」。
: 如此發言不但引來了網友們的熱議跟聲討之外,在美國傍晚時間連《神力女超人》的女導
: 演派蒂詹金斯都在推特上正面回應詹姆士這樣的評論了:
: http://i.imgur.com/iSkO60q.jpg
: "詹姆士柯麥隆無法理解《神力女超人》對於全世界的女性的意義與表徵,其實毫不意外
: ;雖然他是一位好導演,但是他並非女人。堅強的女性們是很好的。我很感謝他曾經讚賞
: 過我拍的《女魔頭 Monster》跟我們在該片中描述了一位傷痕累累卻相當堅強的女性的安
: 排。不過如果女性必須要一直頑強、堅韌跟有缺陷才能算堅強的話,如果我們只因為一位
: 女性美麗且博愛就不能夠自由地去呈現她的多元面貌或是將她歌頌為代表女性的象徵的話
: ,我們實際上就根本還沒進步多少不是嗎?我相信女性角色本該有各種任何可能的不同面
: 貌,就像我認為男性角色也該如此一樣。強悍的女性並沒有甚麼對的或錯的樣貌。而讓本
: 片成為轟動電影的全球的女性觀眾們絕對有能力自己去評斷到底哪種角色才能真正代表社
: 會上進步的女性表率。"
: 看來派蒂對於詹姆士的評論相當不以為然,至於兩者之間的評斷孰優孰劣,就看粉專的朋
: 友們自己的觀點囉!
: 消息來源:派蒂詹金斯個人推特
: /
: 看到板上有人發卡麥隆對這部片的觀點,剛好同一個網站的站長有翻譯派蒂本人的回應,
: 就貼上讓大家參考。
可能無法代表什麼女性觀點發聲,不過我覺得James Cameron這次的發言的確不得體。
很多人以為Patty回應的重點是"我是女生,算不算物化我說得算。",但在我看來,Patty
的重點應該是女性主導的作品觀點不需要刻意跟受了傷的形象綁在一起才算得上成功,這
才真的戳到了Cameron回應的那個痛處:為什麼女性的堅強與獨立非得要與逆境求生或傷
痕累累的形象連結在一塊?還有沒有別的思考方式?如果回去看看陌路狂花、北國性騷擾
、異形以及憤怒道、酒店這些常常被拱在神壇上的類型電影中的女權作品,你會發現這個
回應有它的道理在;因為,訴諸悍女或浪女形象來為女性發聲雖然因為好萊屋某段時間的
主流的旁襯而顯得振聾發聵,但成功的女性電影形象是不是就只有這種可能性?有沒有
可能我不需要訴諸這種強者生存的形象也能塑造出女性可以認同的人物?這才是
Patty點出的問題:生存者形象的女性在成為女性強權象徵的同時,它很可能也代表著
我們忘記或無視了價值應該要有多元化的可能性。
這也是為什麼我覺得Cameron說的"WW是個偶像"這點反倒佐證了她的存在價值。試問好萊屋
從Superhero Genre變成主流市場後,除了WW之外有哪個女性英雄不是為了迎合男性觀眾
的偶像觀點而生?男性觀眾有了超人、蝙蝠俠、金鋼狼這些理想典型,但女性觀眾難道不
會希望也有她們自己的理想典型?不要誤會,我並沒有說悍女和浪女形象的女權英雄有什
麼不好,但如果我們也只願意把悍女和浪女形象的女英雄當作女權象徵,這恐怕也是掉進
偏狹了才對。要覺得WW是個物化的人物也好,要覺得它的故事不合你的胃口也好,但我覺
得男性觀眾該自問的應該是為什麼一直以來是男性市場為主的超級英雄電影,WW的電影卻
能獲得這麼多女性的認同;如果不願意問這個問題,那麼再多的討論也沒有益處(我想光
是Steve這個人物的意義就很值得思索了,你知道我周遭有多少女性友人覺得這人物根本
是近年來螢幕上最棒的男情人嗎XD
--
艾德華:我知道很多人都會覺得一個上百歲的吸血鬼愛上16歲的女孩有多荒唐。他們肯
定會想:一個有一世紀歷練的文藝青年會和愛看醜女貝蒂的女孩聊些什麼呢?
刀鋒:上帝阿!打從預告片上映時我就覺得你們這對狗男女噁心死了!
每晚我都做同一個惡夢,追著同一個小白臉,手中緊握著要捅進他胸口的木樁。
但每一個晚上......我總在釘死那個混蛋前就醒了! By 刀鋒戰士
--
: https://geek-base.toy-people.com/?p=1602
: 文/站長波特蘭
: 《神力女超人》導演回擊名導柯麥隆「退步說」:「他雖是好導演,但他不是女人」
: 美西時間今天稍早,好萊塢知名導演詹姆士柯麥隆對於《神力女超人》一片,針對他自己
: 對該片女主角黛安娜認為是「被物化」的角色,並且只是單純地「性主導的好萊塢在做和
: 過去沒啥兩樣的老把戲」,所以整體而言他認為該片其實是好萊塢的「一大退步」。
: 如此發言不但引來了網友們的熱議跟聲討之外,在美國傍晚時間連《神力女超人》的女導
: 演派蒂詹金斯都在推特上正面回應詹姆士這樣的評論了:
: http://i.imgur.com/iSkO60q.jpg
: "詹姆士柯麥隆無法理解《神力女超人》對於全世界的女性的意義與表徵,其實毫不意外
: ;雖然他是一位好導演,但是他並非女人。堅強的女性們是很好的。我很感謝他曾經讚賞
: 過我拍的《女魔頭 Monster》跟我們在該片中描述了一位傷痕累累卻相當堅強的女性的安
: 排。不過如果女性必須要一直頑強、堅韌跟有缺陷才能算堅強的話,如果我們只因為一位
: 女性美麗且博愛就不能夠自由地去呈現她的多元面貌或是將她歌頌為代表女性的象徵的話
: ,我們實際上就根本還沒進步多少不是嗎?我相信女性角色本該有各種任何可能的不同面
: 貌,就像我認為男性角色也該如此一樣。強悍的女性並沒有甚麼對的或錯的樣貌。而讓本
: 片成為轟動電影的全球的女性觀眾們絕對有能力自己去評斷到底哪種角色才能真正代表社
: 會上進步的女性表率。"
: 看來派蒂對於詹姆士的評論相當不以為然,至於兩者之間的評斷孰優孰劣,就看粉專的朋
: 友們自己的觀點囉!
: 消息來源:派蒂詹金斯個人推特
: /
: 看到板上有人發卡麥隆對這部片的觀點,剛好同一個網站的站長有翻譯派蒂本人的回應,
: 就貼上讓大家參考。
可能無法代表什麼女性觀點發聲,不過我覺得James Cameron這次的發言的確不得體。
很多人以為Patty回應的重點是"我是女生,算不算物化我說得算。",但在我看來,Patty
的重點應該是女性主導的作品觀點不需要刻意跟受了傷的形象綁在一起才算得上成功,這
才真的戳到了Cameron回應的那個痛處:為什麼女性的堅強與獨立非得要與逆境求生或傷
痕累累的形象連結在一塊?還有沒有別的思考方式?如果回去看看陌路狂花、北國性騷擾
、異形以及憤怒道、酒店這些常常被拱在神壇上的類型電影中的女權作品,你會發現這個
回應有它的道理在;因為,訴諸悍女或浪女形象來為女性發聲雖然因為好萊屋某段時間的
主流的旁襯而顯得振聾發聵,但成功的女性電影形象是不是就只有這種可能性?有沒有
可能我不需要訴諸這種強者生存的形象也能塑造出女性可以認同的人物?這才是
Patty點出的問題:生存者形象的女性在成為女性強權象徵的同時,它很可能也代表著
我們忘記或無視了價值應該要有多元化的可能性。
這也是為什麼我覺得Cameron說的"WW是個偶像"這點反倒佐證了她的存在價值。試問好萊屋
從Superhero Genre變成主流市場後,除了WW之外有哪個女性英雄不是為了迎合男性觀眾
的偶像觀點而生?男性觀眾有了超人、蝙蝠俠、金鋼狼這些理想典型,但女性觀眾難道不
會希望也有她們自己的理想典型?不要誤會,我並沒有說悍女和浪女形象的女權英雄有什
麼不好,但如果我們也只願意把悍女和浪女形象的女英雄當作女權象徵,這恐怕也是掉進
偏狹了才對。要覺得WW是個物化的人物也好,要覺得它的故事不合你的胃口也好,但我覺
得男性觀眾該自問的應該是為什麼一直以來是男性市場為主的超級英雄電影,WW的電影卻
能獲得這麼多女性的認同;如果不願意問這個問題,那麼再多的討論也沒有益處(我想光
是Steve這個人物的意義就很值得思索了,你知道我周遭有多少女性友人覺得這人物根本
是近年來螢幕上最棒的男情人嗎XD
--
艾德華:我知道很多人都會覺得一個上百歲的吸血鬼愛上16歲的女孩有多荒唐。他們肯
定會想:一個有一世紀歷練的文藝青年會和愛看醜女貝蒂的女孩聊些什麼呢?
刀鋒:上帝阿!打從預告片上映時我就覺得你們這對狗男女噁心死了!
每晚我都做同一個惡夢,追著同一個小白臉,手中緊握著要捅進他胸口的木樁。
但每一個晚上......我總在釘死那個混蛋前就醒了! By 刀鋒戰士
--
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