《蜘蛛人:無家日》幾個可惜的點(雷) - 電影

By Hazel
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Table of Contents
重雷
重雷
以下防雷
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1.多元宇宙人物的入場和出場
首先定義名詞 這邊提到的多元宇宙人物
指的是非MCU的人物
包括前兩代蜘蛛人和所有反派
這邊我覺得最遺憾的是沒有把這些人是怎麼來到這個宇宙
或他們是在怎樣的情形下來到MCU的部分講清楚
老蜘蛛人部分完全沒有著墨
這部分可以用動畫[蜘蛛人:多元宇宙]中
蜘蛛人們的登場做個比對
除了蜘蛛人是如何來到MCU的
甚至連那個在宇宙間通道傳送的畫面也有
在本作中就是用漸漸消失在光亮/光暈之中
類似LOKI影集中裁剪的特效處理
也是有點混
特別提到托比蜘蛛人
除去外表明顯老化
但很明顯他已經有除了老3部曲以外的故事
但這部分也是隻字未提 可惜
反派部分
則是僅僅提到他們是在和蜘蛛人戰鬥ing
且即將死亡的一刻來到這裡
導致他們的動機只剩下[不想回到原宇宙=死]
就讓腳色的動機有點薄弱了
(這部分電光人想留下來的理由就稍微比較合理 但不一樣的電力 聽起來也滿怪的其實)
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2.腳色動機跟合理性
老蜘蛛人的部分:
可以說是最難圓的
這兩代蜘蛛人明明都在MCU了
滿街也都在報導橋上事件&大樓事件
結果兩個人居然都在逛街?
非得等到Ned劃圈圈 才找得到人?
老實說這部分可以看日本特攝的鹹蛋超人電影參考
有些作品也是跨世代鹹蛋超人同台
他們的處理就好一些
比如在湯姆和相對應的反派戰鬥或主角危難時候加入
會讓他們的入場更有分量也更合理
但本作中不能這麼做的原因是如果太早出現
奇異博士高機率也會把他們關起來
所以他們只能在博士被困在鏡次元裡之後才出現
然而在這部電影的結構裡 正反兩派的衝突次數只有3次
分別是登場/大樓/自由女神
如果要用上面講到的戰鬥場面引入老蜘蛛人
又想要保留比如互嘴/聊天的場面
又要支開奇異博士+激起湯姆的善良
那就只能在大樓跟自由女神之間引入
但篇幅就會太長 很難處理
目前正片的處理方法很明顯是不得已而為之
但的確有點遺憾
(是說博士真的為劇情被架空不少
從復仇者基地的中路法師跑去擋水逛街到這部的鏡次元掛機12小時)
((不過也算幫洛基墜落半小時報了個仇))
反派的部分:
這邊就是反派太多 沒辦法只好簡單處理了
有看出編劇很努力了
比如
八爪博士同樣是從河裡出現(雖然河明顯不一樣)
綠惡魔同樣是從橋出現(好啦都有橋墩 只是沒有廢棄控制室 給過)
但像蜥蜴人這種就只能用一句話帶過
電光人&沙人
也只能用一則新聞和路上遇到野怪的方式處理
綠惡魔作為本片極惡的代表&亂源
動機也略微薄弱
當然也可以說他的動機是那種"唯恐天下不亂"的心態
或許這也是為什麼非得找演技夠高的演員回來出演的原因
(沙人/蜥蜴人這兩個充數的只有用舊畫面)
這邊也是有個遺憾
就是老毒液為什麼沒有回來R
找新猛毒那個廢物在彩蛋有啥用
他們也不知道Peter 憑啥跑來這宇宙?
噁心SONY硬要蹭???
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3.忘記Peter的後果
這邊就比較麻煩
假設在奇異博士操作下
大家都記得蜘蛛人 但忘記Peter Parker
這樣以後蜘蛛人要如何跟現有的英雄連結
只是要重新讓他們認識一次嗎?
史塔克那些為他量身打造的科技和各種紀錄 又會怎麼處理?
Happy如果不記得Peter 那他怎麼認識May?
是有另個故事嗎?
Peter可以說是放棄了他的人生
世俗一點
放棄高中學歷=沒大學念=箱子裡才有高中同等學力測驗的書
那他還有自然人的身分嗎
他有身分證嗎?
類似問題
漫威在Blip事件後已經有在各個作品中展現
但這次的影響 僅僅在於Peter一個人身上
在這之後他要如何在社會立足?
還是正因為如此可以當個無名英雄
或可以跟地獄廚房的律師搭上線?
造成這些問題的點在於目前不清楚奇異博士的"忘記"到底是甚麼樣的意思
是從整個世界上抹去 從此多了一個Peter Parker?
還是只抹去特定 有被蜘蛛人影響的人?
片尾換了新制服 也是代表MCU以前都沒有蜘蛛人
這時才算個重新開始 世界才第一次認識蜘蛛人?
老實說與其讓片尾在出現蜘蛛人
我覺得寧願讓蜘蛛人從此消失
也不要穿著新制服到處晃
JJ也不要出來講蜘蛛人新聞
讓他從此消失 對後續故事的合理性應該會比較好
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目前想到的大概是醬
老實說這部電影還是不錯的
2002的蜘蛛人也是我第一個因為自主意識想去看 也最有印象的電影
2011的也是有不少回憶
可以看到三代蜘蛛人
真的好幸福
要在電影院再次體驗類似的感動
可能又需要個好幾十年才能碰到吧
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