「江」的延伸雜談--豐臣家的後人+雜談(可能有雷) - 日劇
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原本之前要回某討論,結果斷線,就直接開新標題了......
下面豐臣家故事講完後,會有劇情進度雷
怕踩到進度的人請斟酌一下
: → jackwelch:豐臣有後代啊 請看萬城目學的作品豐臣公主(誤) 05/18 10:29
如果以血緣關係論,其實豐臣家還是有血脈流傳至今的
但並不是出自秀吉,而是秀吉之姊阿智
秀吉原本親生的孩子有三男一女,其中三個夭折,只有秀賴活到成年
秀賴生一子一女,但最後兒子被殺,女兒出家,因此秀吉這支就絕後了
秀長生一男二女,但兒子早夭
長女阿菊與表兄弟豐臣秀保結婚,秀保成為秀長養子,但品行不端,十七歲就死了
秀保死後,秀長這一支就算絕後了
至於秀長次女則嫁給毛利秀元做正室
不過秀元後來又有繼室,繼室還是「德川家康養女」,後繼者也不是正室生的
顯然這位長女應該很早就死了,似乎沒有留下後嗣
旭姬結過兩次婚,但都沒有生育
四個兄弟姊妹中,阿智是最長壽的(活到92歲)
她生有三個兒子,分別是秀次、秀勝、秀保
但後來秀次與秀勝做了秀吉的養子,秀保做了秀長的養子
最後三個兒子全部都比親生父母還早過世
秀次28歲時被迫自殺,秀勝24歲時病死海外,秀保17歲時意外身亡
除了秀保之外,秀次與秀勝都有子女
秀次死後,他的妻妾子女也都被下令處死
但有兩個女兒逃過一劫
其中一個名叫阿菊,事發時剛出生一個月,長大結婚後沒幾天,丈夫就去參與大阪之戰
丈夫在大阪落城前夕戰死,阿菊也敵軍逮捕處死,年僅20歲
另一個女兒長大後做了真田幸村的側室,生下一子幸信與一女御田姬
御田姬在大阪之戰時,逃往曾祖母阿智那裡避難
後來嫁給岩城宣隆(佐竹義重四男)做繼室,生嫡子重隆
但是傳到重隆的孫子秀隆就絕後了,後來岩城家由伊達家過繼養子才延續下去
至於幸村之子幸信,跟著姊姊御田姬一同前往北方
但改用祖父秀次的姓,稱為三好幸信
雖然他有兒子,但不是大族,資料太少,不知後來怎麼流傳
姑且就當這一支也消失了
秀勝跟大家最討厭的小屁孩阿江結婚後,沒多久就遠征朝鮮去矣,結果竟然死在海外
已有孕在身的阿江,還沒過到多少夫妻生活,就當了寡婦
後來阿江生下一個女兒,名叫完子,但母女也只相處了兩年多,阿江就改嫁秀忠了
完子交由茶茶撫養長大,後來嫁給公家九條忠榮為妻
其後九條忠榮做了關白,完子也成為北政所
完子與忠榮之間感情甚篤,生四男三女,其中還有兩個女兒與本願寺結親
後由長子九條道房繼承家業
道房的正室是阿江與秀忠三女勝姬的女兒鶴姬,算起來還是遠房表兄妹
他有五個女兒,不過實在不確定是不是鶴姬生的
其中兩個先後嫁給淺野光晟,因此淺野家後來有豐臣家血統流傳
一個嫁給本願寺光晴
長女待姬則迎鷹司孝平之子九條兼晴為婿養子,兩人之間生九條輔實
往後九條家一直流傳下去,雖然數次出現當主無後的情況
但靠著兄弟與旁支,仍然能夠存續,而旁支也是完子與忠榮後代子孫
至九條尚忠時,尚忠的女兒夙子成為孝明天皇的皇后(但後來的明治天皇為側室所生)
後來尚忠的孫女節子也入宮,成為大正天皇的皇后(大正天皇與九條家本無血緣)
自大正天皇起為一夫一妻制,因此後來皇室也有了九條家的血統
如此上溯起來,則當今皇室有著織田家、淺井家、豐臣家的血統
而德川家雖然想當年曾出過皇后,甚至有女帝即位,但並沒有再傳下來
但無論是哪一家,都跟阿江脫不了關係,顯見阿江的存在相當重要
淺井長政若在九泉下有知,一定非常詫異
自己不但成為將軍與皇后的祖父,甚至還成為天皇的曾祖父,後代子孫有皇室血統
竟然都得歸功於這位他根本沒相處過多久的小女兒
順便一提,昨天有日本雜誌爆料
原來「篤姬」可能是田淵由美子的哥哥田淵高志代筆的
有日本網友閱讀該報導整理出來如下,有興趣請自行前往觀賞:
http://sicambre.at.webry.info/201105/article_19.html
又,因為地震停播一次的關係,原本要播47集,現在變成播46集
據田淵自述第34集的劇情,演到阿江嫁到德川家之後的事
這時她生下第三個女兒(秀忠的次女),沒能生下男嗣讓秀忠乳母有意見
後來這女兒還不到一歲就被決定要先行遠嫁
阿江與茶茶也遇上了德川家與豐臣家之爭.......
這跟我之前推測的差不多......34集會落在關原之戰
然後說不定就跟大家想的一樣,阿市說書搭配十一年前葵三代舊影像
關原就迅速打完了
接著其他時間換阿江在內心糾葛...生不出兒子的痛苦...與姊姊對立的痛苦...
說真的,女性觀眾不一定要求劇中出現多少殺陣
但既然這是NHK拍的大河劇,好歹歷史考證要講究一下
該是什麼地位的角色,就該有什麼樣的行為舉止
更不能以今律古,將今天年輕人的行為加至古人身上
(阿初只會吃,而且還能夠戀愛結婚;阿江自幼就沒大沒小,連天下人都巴下去)
遙想葵三代,儘管最後連旁白水戶光國先生都坦言:「對不起,本劇經費不足。」
而且阿江的戲份除了一開始穿男裝在秀忠身邊騎馬外
她的相關劇情大抵都不需要什麼殺陣
但三木的劇本與岩下志麻的演出卻讓我們看到阿江一生中的悲歡離合
真要說戲謔,也僅止於阿江與秀忠夫妻間的互動而已
「江」從第34集可能才是關原部分,但第46集就是完結篇,中間只有12集的差距
相對來看,葵三代第11集(關原開打)至第43集(阿江過世)卻有32集可以鋪陳
屆時進度會超級快轉......若真是富田靖子演阿福,那絕對只是友情客串而已
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下面豐臣家故事講完後,會有劇情進度雷
怕踩到進度的人請斟酌一下
: → jackwelch:豐臣有後代啊 請看萬城目學的作品豐臣公主(誤) 05/18 10:29
如果以血緣關係論,其實豐臣家還是有血脈流傳至今的
但並不是出自秀吉,而是秀吉之姊阿智
秀吉原本親生的孩子有三男一女,其中三個夭折,只有秀賴活到成年
秀賴生一子一女,但最後兒子被殺,女兒出家,因此秀吉這支就絕後了
秀長生一男二女,但兒子早夭
長女阿菊與表兄弟豐臣秀保結婚,秀保成為秀長養子,但品行不端,十七歲就死了
秀保死後,秀長這一支就算絕後了
至於秀長次女則嫁給毛利秀元做正室
不過秀元後來又有繼室,繼室還是「德川家康養女」,後繼者也不是正室生的
顯然這位長女應該很早就死了,似乎沒有留下後嗣
旭姬結過兩次婚,但都沒有生育
四個兄弟姊妹中,阿智是最長壽的(活到92歲)
她生有三個兒子,分別是秀次、秀勝、秀保
但後來秀次與秀勝做了秀吉的養子,秀保做了秀長的養子
最後三個兒子全部都比親生父母還早過世
秀次28歲時被迫自殺,秀勝24歲時病死海外,秀保17歲時意外身亡
除了秀保之外,秀次與秀勝都有子女
秀次死後,他的妻妾子女也都被下令處死
但有兩個女兒逃過一劫
其中一個名叫阿菊,事發時剛出生一個月,長大結婚後沒幾天,丈夫就去參與大阪之戰
丈夫在大阪落城前夕戰死,阿菊也敵軍逮捕處死,年僅20歲
另一個女兒長大後做了真田幸村的側室,生下一子幸信與一女御田姬
御田姬在大阪之戰時,逃往曾祖母阿智那裡避難
後來嫁給岩城宣隆(佐竹義重四男)做繼室,生嫡子重隆
但是傳到重隆的孫子秀隆就絕後了,後來岩城家由伊達家過繼養子才延續下去
至於幸村之子幸信,跟著姊姊御田姬一同前往北方
但改用祖父秀次的姓,稱為三好幸信
雖然他有兒子,但不是大族,資料太少,不知後來怎麼流傳
姑且就當這一支也消失了
秀勝跟大家最討厭的小屁孩阿江結婚後,沒多久就遠征朝鮮去矣,結果竟然死在海外
已有孕在身的阿江,還沒過到多少夫妻生活,就當了寡婦
後來阿江生下一個女兒,名叫完子,但母女也只相處了兩年多,阿江就改嫁秀忠了
完子交由茶茶撫養長大,後來嫁給公家九條忠榮為妻
其後九條忠榮做了關白,完子也成為北政所
完子與忠榮之間感情甚篤,生四男三女,其中還有兩個女兒與本願寺結親
後由長子九條道房繼承家業
道房的正室是阿江與秀忠三女勝姬的女兒鶴姬,算起來還是遠房表兄妹
他有五個女兒,不過實在不確定是不是鶴姬生的
其中兩個先後嫁給淺野光晟,因此淺野家後來有豐臣家血統流傳
一個嫁給本願寺光晴
長女待姬則迎鷹司孝平之子九條兼晴為婿養子,兩人之間生九條輔實
往後九條家一直流傳下去,雖然數次出現當主無後的情況
但靠著兄弟與旁支,仍然能夠存續,而旁支也是完子與忠榮後代子孫
至九條尚忠時,尚忠的女兒夙子成為孝明天皇的皇后(但後來的明治天皇為側室所生)
後來尚忠的孫女節子也入宮,成為大正天皇的皇后(大正天皇與九條家本無血緣)
自大正天皇起為一夫一妻制,因此後來皇室也有了九條家的血統
如此上溯起來,則當今皇室有著織田家、淺井家、豐臣家的血統
而德川家雖然想當年曾出過皇后,甚至有女帝即位,但並沒有再傳下來
但無論是哪一家,都跟阿江脫不了關係,顯見阿江的存在相當重要
淺井長政若在九泉下有知,一定非常詫異
自己不但成為將軍與皇后的祖父,甚至還成為天皇的曾祖父,後代子孫有皇室血統
竟然都得歸功於這位他根本沒相處過多久的小女兒
順便一提,昨天有日本雜誌爆料
原來「篤姬」可能是田淵由美子的哥哥田淵高志代筆的
有日本網友閱讀該報導整理出來如下,有興趣請自行前往觀賞:
http://sicambre.at.webry.info/201105/article_19.html
又,因為地震停播一次的關係,原本要播47集,現在變成播46集
據田淵自述第34集的劇情,演到阿江嫁到德川家之後的事
這時她生下第三個女兒(秀忠的次女),沒能生下男嗣讓秀忠乳母有意見
後來這女兒還不到一歲就被決定要先行遠嫁
阿江與茶茶也遇上了德川家與豐臣家之爭.......
這跟我之前推測的差不多......34集會落在關原之戰
然後說不定就跟大家想的一樣,阿市說書搭配十一年前葵三代舊影像
關原就迅速打完了
接著其他時間換阿江在內心糾葛...生不出兒子的痛苦...與姊姊對立的痛苦...
說真的,女性觀眾不一定要求劇中出現多少殺陣
但既然這是NHK拍的大河劇,好歹歷史考證要講究一下
該是什麼地位的角色,就該有什麼樣的行為舉止
更不能以今律古,將今天年輕人的行為加至古人身上
(阿初只會吃,而且還能夠戀愛結婚;阿江自幼就沒大沒小,連天下人都巴下去)
遙想葵三代,儘管最後連旁白水戶光國先生都坦言:「對不起,本劇經費不足。」
而且阿江的戲份除了一開始穿男裝在秀忠身邊騎馬外
她的相關劇情大抵都不需要什麼殺陣
但三木的劇本與岩下志麻的演出卻讓我們看到阿江一生中的悲歡離合
真要說戲謔,也僅止於阿江與秀忠夫妻間的互動而已
「江」從第34集可能才是關原部分,但第46集就是完結篇,中間只有12集的差距
相對來看,葵三代第11集(關原開打)至第43集(阿江過世)卻有32集可以鋪陳
屆時進度會超級快轉......若真是富田靖子演阿福,那絕對只是友情客串而已
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