哈利波特,接骨木魔杖的問題(雷 - 電影
By Caroline
at 2019-11-10T04:59
at 2019-11-10T04:59
Table of Contents
※ 引述《miaomiao35 (整個星群無人不病)》之銘言:
: 此篇雖然是陳年舊文
: 但剛剛又跟著HP馬拉松了一次,關於魔杖所有權又有了新的疑問
: (是說看這麼多次結果這次突然想到XD)
: 那就是哈利到禁忌森林送死,佛地魔確實用接骨木魔杖對哈利發射了索命咒
: 那為什麼接下來佛地魔沒有繼承接骨木魔杖所有權呢??
: 1. 哈利手上沒有魔杖,並非兩相對戰後擊敗
: 2. 咒語殺死的不是哈利而是佛地魔的靈魂碎片
: 3. 羅琳的BUG
: 4. 接骨木魔杖挑主人,沒有鼻子不行(誤
: ※ 引述《x5937300 (Puma擁護者)》之銘言:
: : 最近把哈利波特1-7全部看完,結果發現電視也在重播
: : 不過有個問題是第六集的時候鄧不利多是被石內卜殺死的,可是接骨木魔杖接下來的使
: 用
: : 不是會由殺死的人繼承這支魔杖嗎?還是我有漏看了哪個部分
: : 還有馬份一家是不是都俗辣,可是卻沒被佛地魔殺掉也很意外
: : 裡面最喜歡的反派是貝拉 雷斯壯,好喜歡她在鄧不利多死掉後在天文台大喊ya的樣子
: 還?
: : -----
: : Sent from JPTT on my iPhone
先說結論 1234都錯= =
這邊直接從小說講 因為電影這部分比較沒說的那麼清楚
小說提到接骨木所有權的轉移是在最後哈利與佛地魔的決戰
那時哈利的說法是 鄧不利多原始的計畫是要讓石內卜殺了他
但因為這個謀殺是計畫內的 所以鄧不利多不算被石內卜打敗
接骨木魔杖的所有權會沒有轉移 還是鄧不利多 然後鄧不利多死掉
沒有人可以擊敗鄧不利多 接骨木魔杖等於永遠無法真正被鄧不利多
以外的人使用
但是計畫出了瑕疵 在第六集的時候 早在石內卜殺掉鄧不利多之前
馬份就對鄧不利多施展繳械咒了 所以接骨木魔杖在這時候認定馬份
為新主人
而在第七集 因為發生在馬份家的戰鬥 哈利在慌亂之中對馬份施展繳械咒
取得馬份魔杖的所有權 間接等於他擊倒馬份
所以正常來說 哈利變成接骨木的新主人
但請注意 接骨木並無法得知這件事
也就是說在小說第七集佛地魔第一次殺哈利 接骨木還是認為主人是馬份
也就沒有什麼打敗哈利有所有權轉移的問題了
是後來 哈利和佛地魔的對決 哈利用馬份的魔杖施展繳械咒 讓接骨木知道
哈利才是真正的新主人 所以佛地魔才會被逆火反彈
--
: 此篇雖然是陳年舊文
: 但剛剛又跟著HP馬拉松了一次,關於魔杖所有權又有了新的疑問
: (是說看這麼多次結果這次突然想到XD)
: 那就是哈利到禁忌森林送死,佛地魔確實用接骨木魔杖對哈利發射了索命咒
: 那為什麼接下來佛地魔沒有繼承接骨木魔杖所有權呢??
: 1. 哈利手上沒有魔杖,並非兩相對戰後擊敗
: 2. 咒語殺死的不是哈利而是佛地魔的靈魂碎片
: 3. 羅琳的BUG
: 4. 接骨木魔杖挑主人,沒有鼻子不行(誤
: ※ 引述《x5937300 (Puma擁護者)》之銘言:
: : 最近把哈利波特1-7全部看完,結果發現電視也在重播
: : 不過有個問題是第六集的時候鄧不利多是被石內卜殺死的,可是接骨木魔杖接下來的使
: 用
: : 不是會由殺死的人繼承這支魔杖嗎?還是我有漏看了哪個部分
: : 還有馬份一家是不是都俗辣,可是卻沒被佛地魔殺掉也很意外
: : 裡面最喜歡的反派是貝拉 雷斯壯,好喜歡她在鄧不利多死掉後在天文台大喊ya的樣子
: 還?
: : -----
: : Sent from JPTT on my iPhone
先說結論 1234都錯= =
這邊直接從小說講 因為電影這部分比較沒說的那麼清楚
小說提到接骨木所有權的轉移是在最後哈利與佛地魔的決戰
那時哈利的說法是 鄧不利多原始的計畫是要讓石內卜殺了他
但因為這個謀殺是計畫內的 所以鄧不利多不算被石內卜打敗
接骨木魔杖的所有權會沒有轉移 還是鄧不利多 然後鄧不利多死掉
沒有人可以擊敗鄧不利多 接骨木魔杖等於永遠無法真正被鄧不利多
以外的人使用
但是計畫出了瑕疵 在第六集的時候 早在石內卜殺掉鄧不利多之前
馬份就對鄧不利多施展繳械咒了 所以接骨木魔杖在這時候認定馬份
為新主人
而在第七集 因為發生在馬份家的戰鬥 哈利在慌亂之中對馬份施展繳械咒
取得馬份魔杖的所有權 間接等於他擊倒馬份
所以正常來說 哈利變成接骨木的新主人
但請注意 接骨木並無法得知這件事
也就是說在小說第七集佛地魔第一次殺哈利 接骨木還是認為主人是馬份
也就沒有什麼打敗哈利有所有權轉移的問題了
是後來 哈利和佛地魔的對決 哈利用馬份的魔杖施展繳械咒 讓接骨木知道
哈利才是真正的新主人 所以佛地魔才會被逆火反彈
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