圈套編劇有話要說(之我是代PO) - 臺劇

By Andy
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因為我實在跟不上大家回覆的速度,所以另開一篇算是Q&A的部分。整理一下我剛才回覆
的部分,這樣大家才不會要一直往上刷進度。
首先,先對於上一篇主文內容充滿情緒化以至於讓大家覺得有些失焦這點,我在此代為至
上我最深切的歉意,雖然我無意替編劇用詞情緒化這點開脫,但會成為編劇的人,其情緒
多少會敏感一點(所以我當不了編劇),所以還煩請大家見諒。
接著是關於回覆的部分,目前依據湖中女神的說法是,關於劇本及人設的部分,就是我在
上一篇回應的內容,因為問題多道邵編沒有辦法一一回答。邵編之所以會出現這邊文章,
主要便是想替自己找一個抒發的管道,畢竟邵編除了line之外沒有其他的對外通訊界面。
而目前我能夠知道的我會在本文內整理出來,其他的若之後邵編有想要回答各位疑問的話
我會再來補充。
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一、關於劇本:
劇本一開始設定就是以BL為主,因為是History系列。而主調設定是謂強攻強受,而在業界
基本上製作方和編劇在寫本前,編劇們會先有一個發想和故事的調性,接下來在和資方來
回討論數月甚至數年之後,劇本成型就會開始選角找拍攝劇組,這時候編劇會跟導演一起
開會討論,雙方溝通調性,所以導演拿到的劇本是已經經過討論修正的確定本。這次,在
前製過程中,編劇已與導演開過兩次會,也討論過劇本走向,但拍出來的還是和原先的設
定不一樣。因此本次邵編生氣的點在於,在劇本形成的過程中,已與導演討論過其相關內
容,也同時明確表達設定便是以BL為主,然而劇本影像化後所呈現之內容,卻讓編劇有種
「由歪掰直」的感覺。因此對於編劇來說,戲劇裡面有不少問題是之後才產生,而非劇本
本身,因此有種被迫背黑鍋的感覺,才會出現上一篇文章。然而,改劇本這是一個在臺灣
業界很容易發生的問題——臺灣的劇本常常被改道連親媽都認不出來,甚至有不少情況是
在首映會上編劇自己才知道自己的孩子到底長什麼樣子。
二、關於人設:
目前我知道的不多,就僅針對剛剛知道關於唐毅的部分。
唐毅是個我認為超有魅力的人,因為我設計他從小被當畜生養大,所以他沒有感情,只懂
求生存,就像是十八世紀不是有撿到被狼養大的孩子那樣,他不懂什麼叫尊嚴,他只求生
存,一直到遇到唐國棟,唐國棟教他怎麼當一個人。因此唐國棟對唐毅來說不是父親,是
神一般的存在。
唐毅根本不知道愛情,他跟少飛再一起也是第一次,是一種他不懂的感覺,他第一次喜歡
一個人。跟唐國棟不一樣,唐國棟是他的神,是仰望、尊敬的對象不是愛情。
邵編表示:連唐毅小時候的回憶戲都加了紅葉,但一匹狼狼會去救其他狼嗎?沒感情的人
是怎麼會去救別人啊?雖然回憶戲讓唐毅人設改成溫馨好人走向,但人設就歪
掉了。
因此,從上述內容可知,光人設及劇本的核心設定就已經原來的不同。但因為我本身沒有
在追《圈套》,也沒有跟任何直播,所以我也就只能針對我所接收到的訊息加以整理。目
前邵編已經沒有在給予更多訊息,因此以上。
追申:首先,會不會有下一篇我不知道,但這篇是最後一篇的可能性很高。至於其他疑問包含說劇本生成的部分詳情我也不是很清楚,畢竟是也是個局外人,因此我只能說劇本生成的流程是固定的,但是我想應該不是全部由邵編主導,而是想呈現原來的劇本設定和影劇所呈現出來的情況已完全不同而已。再來,到底是原版好還是影劇版好,我沒法做評論,因為兩者我都沒看過,而且我相信蘿蔔青菜各有所好,但重點在於編劇都未必認識自己的孩子這點上,自己的東西已經被改成不是自己的,然後還要背鍋這點讓邵編不能接受吧?最後關於唐毅人設的部分,因為是再說BL,因
此原始設定裡唐毅不懂愛情,他對唐國棟是景仰,是崇拜 而教會他愛情的是少飛。但蘿蔔青菜各有所好,我相信支持戲劇版唐毅的人應該也不少,因此放出原始版唐毅的人設為的只是想讓大家知道,兩版之間的差異這樣。
--
*你好啊我是個專職的潛水員!(屁)!*
--
的部分,這樣大家才不會要一直往上刷進度。
首先,先對於上一篇主文內容充滿情緒化以至於讓大家覺得有些失焦這點,我在此代為至
上我最深切的歉意,雖然我無意替編劇用詞情緒化這點開脫,但會成為編劇的人,其情緒
多少會敏感一點(所以我當不了編劇),所以還煩請大家見諒。
接著是關於回覆的部分,目前依據湖中女神的說法是,關於劇本及人設的部分,就是我在
上一篇回應的內容,因為問題多道邵編沒有辦法一一回答。邵編之所以會出現這邊文章,
主要便是想替自己找一個抒發的管道,畢竟邵編除了line之外沒有其他的對外通訊界面。
而目前我能夠知道的我會在本文內整理出來,其他的若之後邵編有想要回答各位疑問的話
我會再來補充。
-----------------------------
一、關於劇本:
劇本一開始設定就是以BL為主,因為是History系列。而主調設定是謂強攻強受,而在業界
基本上製作方和編劇在寫本前,編劇們會先有一個發想和故事的調性,接下來在和資方來
回討論數月甚至數年之後,劇本成型就會開始選角找拍攝劇組,這時候編劇會跟導演一起
開會討論,雙方溝通調性,所以導演拿到的劇本是已經經過討論修正的確定本。這次,在
前製過程中,編劇已與導演開過兩次會,也討論過劇本走向,但拍出來的還是和原先的設
定不一樣。因此本次邵編生氣的點在於,在劇本形成的過程中,已與導演討論過其相關內
容,也同時明確表達設定便是以BL為主,然而劇本影像化後所呈現之內容,卻讓編劇有種
「由歪掰直」的感覺。因此對於編劇來說,戲劇裡面有不少問題是之後才產生,而非劇本
本身,因此有種被迫背黑鍋的感覺,才會出現上一篇文章。然而,改劇本這是一個在臺灣
業界很容易發生的問題——臺灣的劇本常常被改道連親媽都認不出來,甚至有不少情況是
在首映會上編劇自己才知道自己的孩子到底長什麼樣子。
二、關於人設:
目前我知道的不多,就僅針對剛剛知道關於唐毅的部分。
唐毅是個我認為超有魅力的人,因為我設計他從小被當畜生養大,所以他沒有感情,只懂
求生存,就像是十八世紀不是有撿到被狼養大的孩子那樣,他不懂什麼叫尊嚴,他只求生
存,一直到遇到唐國棟,唐國棟教他怎麼當一個人。因此唐國棟對唐毅來說不是父親,是
神一般的存在。
唐毅根本不知道愛情,他跟少飛再一起也是第一次,是一種他不懂的感覺,他第一次喜歡
一個人。跟唐國棟不一樣,唐國棟是他的神,是仰望、尊敬的對象不是愛情。
邵編表示:連唐毅小時候的回憶戲都加了紅葉,但一匹狼狼會去救其他狼嗎?沒感情的人
是怎麼會去救別人啊?雖然回憶戲讓唐毅人設改成溫馨好人走向,但人設就歪
掉了。
因此,從上述內容可知,光人設及劇本的核心設定就已經原來的不同。但因為我本身沒有
在追《圈套》,也沒有跟任何直播,所以我也就只能針對我所接收到的訊息加以整理。目
前邵編已經沒有在給予更多訊息,因此以上。
追申:首先,會不會有下一篇我不知道,但這篇是最後一篇的可能性很高。至於其他疑問包含說劇本生成的部分詳情我也不是很清楚,畢竟是也是個局外人,因此我只能說劇本生成的流程是固定的,但是我想應該不是全部由邵編主導,而是想呈現原來的劇本設定和影劇所呈現出來的情況已完全不同而已。再來,到底是原版好還是影劇版好,我沒法做評論,因為兩者我都沒看過,而且我相信蘿蔔青菜各有所好,但重點在於編劇都未必認識自己的孩子這點上,自己的東西已經被改成不是自己的,然後還要背鍋這點讓邵編不能接受吧?最後關於唐毅人設的部分,因為是再說BL,因
此原始設定裡唐毅不懂愛情,他對唐國棟是景仰,是崇拜 而教會他愛情的是少飛。但蘿蔔青菜各有所好,我相信支持戲劇版唐毅的人應該也不少,因此放出原始版唐毅的人設為的只是想讓大家知道,兩版之間的差異這樣。
--
*你好啊我是個專職的潛水員!(屁)!*
--
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