國片還要護航到何時 - 電影

By Tristan Cohan
at 2013-08-27T00:29
at 2013-08-27T00:29
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※ 引述《belleaya (台中李奧納多皮卡丘)》之銘言:
: 低成本、超少場景可以拍出劇情片刺激1995、綠色奇蹟、美國心玫瑰情
: 恐怖片能拍出陰兒房、奪魂鋸、甚至評價兩極的惡夜叢林
: (拜託,惡夜叢林那個如果拍台灣版的芒神題材只怕恐怖十倍以上)
我始終相信台灣類型片要發展,一定要花錢試誤
因為台灣電影沒什麼多元的類型片可言,幾乎無前例可循
但可以別再嘴砲美國好萊塢低成本類型電影這回事嗎?
要寫這東西前先查一下英文wiki或相關電影網站,才比較有說服力吧
刺激1995 - 2500萬美金
綠色奇蹟 - 6000萬美金
美國心玫瑰情 - 1500萬美金
陰兒房 - 1500萬美金
奪魂鋸第一集 - 1200萬美金
奪魂鋸3D - 1700萬美金
厄夜叢林 - 22500美金
除了最後一個電影是真的不管美金或台幣都可視為低成本
其他預算都不是台幣,是用美金計算的
台灣電影預算最多的賽德克巴萊,預算約2300萬-2500萬美金
如果賽德克巴萊可以類比成高成本電影
請問他的預算位階可以等同於好萊塢的復仇者聯盟嗎?XDDD
這種類比根本有問題
而且不考慮上列美國電影預算通膨因素,台灣有幾部片(含合拍)能破3億台幣的=.=
要搞一部破三億的台灣電影
以這幾年案例,金主就叫你外銷到中國或其他國家
但是外銷中國,就會遇到廣電總局的刁難,等電影剪好、符合規定了,盜版也上市了
這還只是上映問題,現在到中國宣傳不砸重本,根本很難出頭得到曝光率
結果成本還是不低呀
另外一個問題
所有人在討論美國好萊塢低成本電影時
都忘記討論他們電影工業之健全
那些工作人員大都都身經百戰,經驗豐富,拍攝時的犯錯率低,成本才能壓下來
跟台灣這種2008年國片從低潮爬起來
從導演到場記一堆都生面孔、從來沒拍過電影的人
如果要拍恐怖片,專業的道具屍體或特殊化妝材料
還不是要找國外支援=.=
結果就是電影拍出來了,電影版也抓出一堆bug、吐槽連連、
鄉民總稱台灣電影比不上好萊塢云云,這不是廢話嗎?= =a
台灣電影工業草創期是要怎麼跟好萊塢比
或者跟韓國比呢?
總之要拿好萊塢或美國獨立製片,對比台灣時
除了預算差異外,也麻煩看一下兩國電影工作人員的差異吧
這絕不是一時半刻能解決得
: 就是需要夠好的劇本、能夠掌握好節奏的導演
: 還有願意投資的金主
: 畢竟台灣一堆慣老闆愛炒短線也見怪不怪了
: 等到題材被拍壞才怪觀眾沒買單、評審沒眼睛
: 另外台灣打光跟攝影
: 容易把演員拍平
: 所以看起來就很沒景深
: 感覺像電視劇一樣
: 這是一個問題
: 另一問題還有演員斷層
: 台灣年輕正的帥的演技好的沒多少
: 沒有到凱文史貝西那種等級就算了
: 連到陶比麥奎爾的等級都沒達到
: 題外話:
: 話說又正又會演的
: Amy Adams先不說
: 21歲就拿威尼斯影后的Rose Byrne演技真的蠻不錯的
--
: 低成本、超少場景可以拍出劇情片刺激1995、綠色奇蹟、美國心玫瑰情
: 恐怖片能拍出陰兒房、奪魂鋸、甚至評價兩極的惡夜叢林
: (拜託,惡夜叢林那個如果拍台灣版的芒神題材只怕恐怖十倍以上)
我始終相信台灣類型片要發展,一定要花錢試誤
因為台灣電影沒什麼多元的類型片可言,幾乎無前例可循
但可以別再嘴砲美國好萊塢低成本類型電影這回事嗎?
要寫這東西前先查一下英文wiki或相關電影網站,才比較有說服力吧
刺激1995 - 2500萬美金
綠色奇蹟 - 6000萬美金
美國心玫瑰情 - 1500萬美金
陰兒房 - 1500萬美金
奪魂鋸第一集 - 1200萬美金
奪魂鋸3D - 1700萬美金
厄夜叢林 - 22500美金
除了最後一個電影是真的不管美金或台幣都可視為低成本
其他預算都不是台幣,是用美金計算的
台灣電影預算最多的賽德克巴萊,預算約2300萬-2500萬美金
如果賽德克巴萊可以類比成高成本電影
請問他的預算位階可以等同於好萊塢的復仇者聯盟嗎?XDDD
這種類比根本有問題
而且不考慮上列美國電影預算通膨因素,台灣有幾部片(含合拍)能破3億台幣的=.=
要搞一部破三億的台灣電影
以這幾年案例,金主就叫你外銷到中國或其他國家
但是外銷中國,就會遇到廣電總局的刁難,等電影剪好、符合規定了,盜版也上市了
這還只是上映問題,現在到中國宣傳不砸重本,根本很難出頭得到曝光率
結果成本還是不低呀
另外一個問題
所有人在討論美國好萊塢低成本電影時
都忘記討論他們電影工業之健全
那些工作人員大都都身經百戰,經驗豐富,拍攝時的犯錯率低,成本才能壓下來
跟台灣這種2008年國片從低潮爬起來
從導演到場記一堆都生面孔、從來沒拍過電影的人
如果要拍恐怖片,專業的道具屍體或特殊化妝材料
還不是要找國外支援=.=
結果就是電影拍出來了,電影版也抓出一堆bug、吐槽連連、
鄉民總稱台灣電影比不上好萊塢云云,這不是廢話嗎?= =a
台灣電影工業草創期是要怎麼跟好萊塢比
或者跟韓國比呢?
總之要拿好萊塢或美國獨立製片,對比台灣時
除了預算差異外,也麻煩看一下兩國電影工作人員的差異吧
這絕不是一時半刻能解決得
: 就是需要夠好的劇本、能夠掌握好節奏的導演
: 還有願意投資的金主
: 畢竟台灣一堆慣老闆愛炒短線也見怪不怪了
: 等到題材被拍壞才怪觀眾沒買單、評審沒眼睛
: 另外台灣打光跟攝影
: 容易把演員拍平
: 所以看起來就很沒景深
: 感覺像電視劇一樣
: 這是一個問題
: 另一問題還有演員斷層
: 台灣年輕正的帥的演技好的沒多少
: 沒有到凱文史貝西那種等級就算了
: 連到陶比麥奎爾的等級都沒達到
: 題外話:
: 話說又正又會演的
: Amy Adams先不說
: 21歲就拿威尼斯影后的Rose Byrne演技真的蠻不錯的
--
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