壹網樂絕對必須付費影片的特殊歸類區 - 壹電視

By Ula
at 2011-08-11T14:05
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自從哈利波特開始,壹網樂聲稱片商要求,所以無法提供優惠期間免費觀賞。
接著汽車總動員,壹網樂又一樣的理由,所以無法提供該片優惠期間免費觀賞,
汽車總動員這片已經是多年前的老片了...-__-|||。
現在又上了一片肉蒲團,果不其然,本片無法提供優惠期間免費觀賞。
雖然原因不明,但無法提供優惠期間免費觀賞的片子愈來愈多了,壹網樂總有理由應對。
既然如此,壹網樂要不要乾脆開個特殊專區,
把無論如何一定要收費的節目,通通歸納到特殊專區;
就像成人專區得付費,所以知道的用戶除非同意付費,不然也不會貿然進入該區。
而且令人疑問的是,
愈來愈多的影片,都會因特殊或不明原因,無法提供優惠期間免費觀賞,
讓人開始有點懷疑所謂優惠期間的誠意耶,
當然路人可以用"不__不要看"這樣的大絕來回應反彈的用戶,
但對於設計這種行銷方式的企業來說,誠信實在會被打折扣。
另外本來一直強打廣告的豬哥一級棒節目也是,用此噱頭吸引想看豬哥亮的TA申辦VOD,
然後再無限期延期該節目,這到底是哪招?
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推 ccbbaa:進去收看要按3次確認....而且也才這三片..~_~ 08/11 14:08
→ tdkblur:目前才這3片,接下來不會愈來愈多嗎? 08/11 14:23
→ tdkblur:做行銷的促銷方案最忌諱的就是玩文字遊戲,即使達到短期目 08/11 14:23
→ tdkblur:標,但對企業的形象影響是長期的... 08/11 14:24
→ tdkblur:而且我現在反應的並不是"誤按"的事件,跟確認幾次無直接相 08/11 14:25
→ tdkblur:關... 08/11 14:25
→ Dino9021:簡直是得寸進尺的最佳範例 (無誤) 08/11 14:27
→ tdkblur:真有趣,廠商先訂個免費促銷,然後再開始玩特殊條款作限制 08/11 14:31
→ tdkblur:真的也算是得寸進尺了(無誤) 08/11 14:31
→ tdkblur:或許接下來就冠上限制不給免費看的片愈來愈多,反正用戶也 08/11 14:34
→ tdkblur:無感...然後再一堆收費B級片開放免費優惠期間收看:D 08/11 14:36
推 yuansaint:然後到最後就從一片38→60以上的價錢 變成不穩定的MOD了 08/11 14:57
→ yuansaint:(誤) 08/11 14:57
→ jasonskater:客戶有絕對的決定權,要不要收費是人家的事,要不要看 08/11 15:21
→ jasonskater:是你的事,覺得要收費嫌貴就不要看,這有啥好反應的? 08/11 15:21
→ jasonskater:以前機車停車也不收費,現在部分區域收費,那你怎不去 08/11 15:22
→ jasonskater:抗議?真的是得了便宜還賣乖的最佳典範~ 08/11 15:22
→ piglife:遙控器在你手裡,真的不想看就把網樂通退了~! 08/11 15:22
→ jasonskater:服飾店外面說全面幾折,你進去後不也有新品不折扣的. 08/11 15:23
→ jasonskater:照po文者的邏輯,豈不就告不完了!只會想要都不要錢.那 08/11 15:24
→ jasonskater:公司給你開不就得了! 08/11 15:24
→ jasonskater:po文者怎不去MOD抗議?人家網樂通前2個月免費,為何他們 08/11 15:25
→ jasonskater:沒有?那看MOD的就比較衰嗎? 08/11 15:26
推 kevin20541:我是覺得他既然打出前兩個月完全免費 就應該自己吸收阿 08/11 15:35
推 Alasio:我覺得現在既然都把註解標明出來了,就也沒有什麼誠信問題 08/11 15:40
→ Alasio:好說嘴了 而且字體大小比一堆信託廣告都還要大多了 08/11 15:41
→ Alasio:還以為現在平面還是沒把註解加上去...... 08/11 15:43
推 jorz:我覺得壹網樂拿出3000部免費影片提供試看 已經很有誠意 08/11 15:44
→ Alasio:也許放大絕是沒意義的,不妨不滿意的人也來試試先買影片 08/11 15:45
推 flexin:同樓上.... 08/11 15:45
→ Alasio:然後在大吵大鬧找議員找其他媒體找消保官拗七天鑑賞期退費 08/11 15:45
→ Alasio:然後網樂通的隨選影片從此就會像GoogleAndroidMarket一樣了 08/11 15:46
推 yuansaint:廣告用"完全免費"跟"大部分免費"吸引力就有差 08/11 15:50
→ yuansaint:但是最近片商這樣要求 我覺得可能要再做明顯一點的標示 08/11 15:50
→ yuansaint:不然觀眾罵他們廣告不實 也蠻可憐的 08/11 15:51
→ Alasio:也許能另外獨立一小區出來 但像成人特區那樣就太誇張了 08/11 15:53
推 GrapeC:其實只要強調超過3000多片免費就好了,做到全部免費是很困 08/11 15:54
→ Alasio:一級棒沒播出問題本身出在壹電視而不是壹網樂 08/11 15:55
→ GrapeC:難的,權利金再高片商也不願意拿新片玩這種噱頭 08/11 15:56
→ Alasio:現在到九月底前播出算延第一次 當然若有其他考量 08/11 15:56
→ Alasio:像是一級棒真的要撥出的時候才要辦卻要等14~30天機器才會到 08/11 15:57
→ Alasio:那某種程度來說壹網樂的確難辭其咎 其實現在也有現貨拿了 08/11 15:58
推 jorz:或許網站上或電視選單上可以列出免費期間仍須付費的影片清單 08/11 15:58
→ Alasio:又有抽獎活動或禮券等相關回饋給新申裝會員看電視台又免費 08/11 15:59
→ Alasio:辦來收藏偶爾看一下也不見得就那麼壞 08/11 16:00
→ Alasio:相較於我們還要用信用卡付$65運費也算不錯了 08/11 16:01
→ yuansaint:真的會讓人覺得全部都免費... 08/11 16:02
→ Alasio:像樓上那文案還沒更新確實舊有問題沒錯 08/11 16:11
→ Alasio:從哈利波特開先例之後 08/11 16:12
→ Alasio:壹網樂更正之前活動內容的狀況是也該完整點 08/11 16:13
→ Alasio:現在也才這三片,還會打片商要求的說明表示短時間不會爆增 08/11 16:17
→ Alasio:其實不適用的影片官網查詢都有說明 而說明網樂通也看的到 08/11 16:19
推 yuansaint:如果壹網樂給觀眾免費 然後自行吸收那38塊應該會倒XD 08/11 16:19
→ Alasio:不過我想原PO真正要求的是隨便(亂)點期限內都完全免費 08/11 16:20
→ Alasio:(不是誤點)這樣也許反過來網樂通下版韌體設計成免費影片 08/11 16:21
→ Alasio:只要按一次就直接看片會更方便 08/11 16:22
推 yuansaint:樓上+1 不過如果可以設定成付費影片沒有廣告應該會好 08/11 16:26
→ yuansaint:一點XD 08/11 16:26
→ tdkblur:不是我想要求"隨便(亂)點期限內都完全免費",而是網樂通促 08/11 19:33
→ tdkblur:銷廣告中自己寫的就是"全部影片免費觀賞",結果更改遊戲規 08/11 19:34
→ tdkblur:則的範圍愈來愈大,這樣的誠信難道不被質疑嗎? 08/11 19:35
→ tdkblur:"完全免費"跟"大部分免費"的定義本來就不一樣,力道也不同, 08/11 19:37
→ tdkblur:不是不能體諒壹網樂因為某些原因改變規則,但這種片面改變 08/11 19:38
→ tdkblur:又不知會用戶的方式,實在令人感冒;整天跑馬燈不是很喜歡跑 08/11 19:39
→ tdkblur:訊息嗎?那為什麼這類訊息不主動告知呢?說實話要不是已經有 08/11 19:39
→ tdkblur:"哈"跟"汽"連續兩片的經驗,身為免費期間的用戶,哪需要每片 08/11 19:40
→ tdkblur:都戰戰兢兢地確認付費頁面? 08/11 19:41
→ tdkblur:另外jasonskater您的推文,實在不知是在舉啥例子?然後最後 08/11 19:45
→ tdkblur:再放個大絕叫人自己開公司,真是佩服:) 08/11 19:46
→ tdkblur:請問路邊停車是有標個"此區免費",結果你停下去發現第X格要 08/11 19:47
→ tdkblur:收費這樣的事嗎?服飾店外面寫的都是"全面幾折起",有那個起 08/11 19:47
→ tdkblur:字要把新品賣原價本來就說得過去,您邏輯不通嗎?如果看不懂 08/11 19:49
→ tdkblur:文可以不要推沒關係,沒人強迫您,而非如此混淆道理 08/11 19:51
→ tdkblur:題外話,一直不覺得幾部例外片是吸不吸收費用所致,只是這樣 08/11 19:57
→ tdkblur:的變動,真的是促銷文案上的一大爭議,很好奇一向行銷花樣玩 08/11 19:57
→ tdkblur:得令人驚奇連連的壹傳媒集團,怎麼會在這種地方忽略? 08/11 19:58
→ tdkblur:況且把原來的兩個月免費看延長到三個月,也算是很有誠意了, 08/11 20:00
→ tdkblur:所以,我的重點絕不是放在少看那一兩部片的點上,而是促銷方 08/11 20:00
→ tdkblur:案設計,與後來的事實不符,壹網樂卻沒用其他方法填補問題? 08/11 20:01
→ tdkblur:當然,或許他們把免費期間延長,就算是一種彌補,但這也是用 08/11 20:01
→ tdkblur:戶自己腦補的說法而已 08/11 20:02
※ 編輯: tdkblur 來自: 27.105.18.176 (08/11 20:10) 推 Dino9021:目前全部共3974部影片,只有3部要錢 = 萬分之七要錢 08/11 20:32
→ Dino9021:"無法提供優惠期間免費觀賞的片子愈來愈多了" 也是腦補 08/11 20:32
→ Dino9021:10元商店門口寫 "10元商店" 也是違反誠信 08/11 20:32
→ Dino9021:說真的,拜託你有建設性一點去告官或把去跟壹傳媒申訴的 08/11 20:33
→ Dino9021:來往公文給大家看 08/11 20:33
→ Dino9021:在這邊嘴砲沒想到一堆人都沒站在你這邊 08/11 20:33
→ Dino9021:你說的道理我懂我也覺得非常正確 08/11 20:34
→ Dino9021:可惜就現實狀況比例原則看起來,還是覺得完全不需計較 08/11 20:34
→ Dino9021:原因很簡單,活著開心一點,何必為了那麼雞毛蒜皮小小的事 08/11 20:35
→ Dino9021:搞得自己不愉快咧? 別跟豬打架! 08/11 20:35
→ Dino9021:再者說,我認為事情一定沒那麼單純 08/11 20:36
→ Dino9021:他們當初一定是興高采烈跟片商談好了免費 08/11 20:37
→ Dino9021:結果繼續業務發展越來越大,開始討新片來播 08/11 20:37
→ Dino9021:結果片商一驚這不得了,會打到其他通路 08/11 20:37
→ Dino9021:所以就拿當初合約的但書(就跟網樂通的但書一樣) 08/11 20:37
→ Dino9021:說ㄟㄟㄟ這個不能免費,你要給我收錢 08/11 20:38
→ Dino9021:然後網樂通也一驚,啥?!要收錢? 可是合約就那樣規定 08/11 20:38
→ Dino9021:除非他要違反合約讓廣大的使用者以後都沒片子可以看 08/11 20:38
→ Dino9021:所以只好摸摸鼻子也加上但書某幾片要收錢 08/11 20:39
→ Dino9021:以上都是我自己腦補, 但你說有沒有這可能性咧? 08/11 20:39
→ Dino9021:每個人都有自己看事情的出發點與想法 08/11 20:39
→ Dino9021:何必跟自己過不去,動輒得咎扯上誠信問題 08/11 20:40
→ Dino9021:開心點吧! 08/11 20:40
→ Dino9021:老師有教,不要想著只剩半杯水可以喝 08/11 20:40
→ Dino9021:要想著還有半杯水可以喝 08/11 20:41
推 andy199113:推文有八卦(⊙o⊙) 08/11 20:41
→ Dino9021:申請網樂通時的合約裡頭清楚記載: 08/11 20:48
→ Dino9021:為提供優質且受歡迎之內容, 08/11 20:48
→ Dino9021:壹網樂保留選擇並更新內容的權利 08/11 20:48
→ Dino9021:壹網樂保留隨時增修本須知內容,增修後之內容將於公告時 08/11 20:49
→ Dino9021:立即生效,不再個別向您通知。若您在公告後仍繼續觀賞或 08/11 20:49
→ Dino9021:使用壹網樂,即表示您了解並同意遵守新的會員須知內容。 08/11 20:49
→ Dino9021:點一下下面的 "我同意壹網樂會員須知條款" 就可以找到 08/11 20:50
→ Dino9021:所以, 開心點吧, 別讓自己不開心 08/11 20:50
推 zeki621:推文的八卦還不小XDDD 辛苦了 08/11 20:52
→ Alasio:害我那麼用心...哪來的爆點? 違規停車/並排停車/汽停機格? 08/11 20:53
→ tchuangtom:相較於壹電影,網樂通還是有誠意多了~ 08/11 20:59
→ tchuangtom:只是不懂某j扯到MOD幹嘛,這又是哪種邏輯? 08/11 21:02
推 andy199113:扯MOD也是yuansaint先扯的...有夠無聊 08/11 21:11
推 yuansaint:= =如果是我開頭引起戰火的話把我的推文刪了吧 08/11 21:13
→ Galileo:現在汽車總動員的影片介紹有寫不適用新會員及發燒友優惠 08/11 21:50
推 ccbbaa:免費已經很划算了 我隔壁的錄影帶店已經抱怨人又少很多了.. 08/12 00:32
推 jamesbaby:我住基隆 已經看不到百視達跟達樂視 08/12 13:29
推 joey0422:就是設個陷阱給你跳啊 你沒來網路找資料根本不知道要錢 08/12 14:22
→ Galileo:不同意樓上,眼睛看仔細點,不要一直按確認自然可避免 08/12 14:32
→ kreites:根本沒必要故意挖這麼明顯的陷阱給自己找麻煩 08/12 15:53
→ kreites:如果要靠這種來賺錢也太蠢了 壹傳媒又不是沒見過世面 08/12 15:54
→ kreites:要賺 沒那麼短視 08/12 15:54
推 yuansaint:多媒體視訊隨選本來就是要取代租片店的吧... 08/12 15:54
→ jasonskater:真好笑.我家有MOD跟網樂通,都是搞VOD的,當然可以比較 08/12 16:03
→ jasonskater:他們家機子差,這種討論抗議建議OK.原po只為幾部片收費 08/12 16:05
→ jasonskater:就該.人生也太累了吧.花時間挑語病雞蛋裡挑骨頭.不也 08/12 16:06
→ jasonskater:好笑!他們在選單內就有文字說明,請問你要公司做幾層 08/12 16:07
→ jasonskater:防呆才夠,真的夠呆做幾層都不夠,我的重點是,嫌要錢就 08/12 16:07
→ jasonskater:不要看阿.誰強迫誰了?可能也像Dino大說的.他們公司跟 08/12 16:08
→ jasonskater:片商有這類問題.黎胖都送3000部免費了.他有差這3部嗎? 08/12 16:08
→ jasonskater:可以免費衝用戶,又何必硬收幾部錢砸自己腳呢?原po就似 08/12 16:09
→ jasonskater:為反對而反對.舉例只是舉例.不是絕對的.原po又再挑骨 08/12 16:12
→ jasonskater:頭.再用怎樣的邏輯都無法跟您溝通吧! 08/12 16:13
→ jasonskater:那我建議您開心的看完免費的3個月.然後開心的把機子退 08/12 16:13
→ jasonskater:掉吧!一毛錢都花不到.看到還賺到.找這種毛病沒意義~ 08/12 16:14
推 lookers:網樂通有幾台HD MOD有幾台 扯這個來比真的好難懂 08/12 16:19
→ jasonskater:的確有點遠.那我拉回來.網樂通要改進的太多了.MOD很多 08/12 16:22
→ jasonskater:高畫質.又穩定.所以看節目我看MOD!但機上盒影片不用錢 08/12 16:22
→ jasonskater:相較MOD每片7-80的.我當然先考慮看免費的機上盒影片 08/12 16:23
→ jasonskater:只是原po的態度不敢讓人恭維.敢po文.就不要怕有人跟你 08/12 16:24
→ jasonskater:站不同邊.實質也有趣.誰的邏輯有趣.自有評斷! 08/12 16:26
推 octobird:推文寫這麼多都能回文章了=.= 08/12 17:57
→ tdkblur:to Dino大,您每天更新節目表很辛苦,大家都有看到,也都謝謝 08/13 23:16
→ tdkblur:您,我也有在看您的節目更新來追蹤資訊:) 08/13 23:17
→ tdkblur:不過此板不就是要讓板友反應、討論一與壹電視相關的事情嗎 08/13 23:17
→ tdkblur:我是針對他們原先的規則,及後續的改變來提出我方意見看法, 08/13 23:18
→ tdkblur:為何是用"嘴砲"二字來形容呢? 而且又為何有建設性的作法就 08/13 23:19
→ tdkblur:一定要去告官呢? 再說做人的道理大家都懂,也都各有處世方 08/13 23:20
→ tdkblur:式,應該不需在此討論吧?這也不是立此板的本意,不是嗎? 08/13 23:21
→ tdkblur:至於j,您的重點一直放在防呆一事,但那非此問題根源,若您真 08/13 23:22
→ tdkblur:的不懂文意,那就不討論了;另外也沒挑您文字骨頭,而是您之 08/13 23:23
→ tdkblur:前的舉例真的有問題,若要以舉例方式陳述或說明者,本來就最 08/13 23:23
→ tdkblur:好是嚴謹貼切些,也才能讓人直接連結;我沒有您所謂的怕看到 08/13 23:25
→ tdkblur:不同立場的意見,但敘述與討論總要合乎邏輯吧?不是說推文就 08/13 23:25
→ tdkblur:可以看心情隨意寫,不然豈不成了他人所說的嘴砲了? 08/13 23:27
→ tdkblur:另外多提一事,很多活動商在訂規則時,總喜歡把"保留變更權" 08/13 23:29
→ tdkblur:寫在其中,道理上好像說得通,但實務上,消費者所認定的是當 08/13 23:30
→ tdkblur:時的文案內容,這就是廠商DM為什麼可以當作保護消費者文件 08/13 23:32
→ Alasio:在此案例中網樂通本身並沒有費用 沒有購買行為就不算消費者 08/14 00:36
→ Alasio:自然在使用者沒有購買行為前就不在消費者保護法的範圍內 08/14 00:38
→ Alasio:所以我才建議不想在免費期間看到付費影片的使用者先購買 08/14 00:38
→ Alasio:再找消保官拗七天保固期啊~反正台灣那麼保護消費者 08/14 00:39
→ Alasio:只要一開先例以後網樂通免費期間的會員都看不到付費影片 08/14 00:40
→ Alasio:上架囉^^ 08/14 00:40
→ Alasio:更正 鑑賞 08/14 00:41
推 leav:買了發燒友, 不就有消費了? 08/14 21:18
推 horusli:買發燒友這幾部片應該還是1元優惠吧 08/15 01:06
→ tdkblur:Alasio大說的沒錯,在免費取得的狀況下,嚴格來說找消保官是 08/15 02:20
→ tdkblur:無意義的,因為用戶沒有實質上的"損害",所以當我看到告官的 08/15 02:23
→ tdkblur:說法時,其實心中是有點傻眼,因為消保官不是這樣用的XD 08/15 02:23
→ tdkblur:也因此我在立場上,都是以質疑當初文案誠信度為出發來作議 08/15 02:24
→ tdkblur:論,建議他們可弄個必要付費專區,雖有避免用戶誤按之功,但 08/15 02:25
→ tdkblur:事實上,更想凸顯的是破例者愈來愈多,這並非腦補現象,而是 08/15 02:25
→ tdkblur:實際如此,雖然比例尚且不高,但依舊未改誠信遭疑之事實 08/15 02:27
→ tdkblur:另外私以為台灣還不算特別保護消費者的,平常看新聞也只是 08/15 02:28
→ tdkblur:看到官方拿些話題性新聞在作秀而已,並非真正以保護消費者 08/15 02:29
→ tdkblur:出發;消費者本來就是弱勢的個體,即使數量龐大,但個體卻是 08/15 02:29
→ tdkblur:弱勢的,也才需要官方機構來作保護(這已扯遠,就此打住^^) 08/15 02:30
→ leav:發燒友沒優惠喔... 08/15 08:35
→ Dino9021:結論就是,很少人如你覺得有誠信問題 08/15 10:59
→ Dino9021:大多數如我&A大不覺得,你得接受這個事實 08/15 11:00
→ tdkblur:您對於"很少人"的結論做得太草率,取樣數也不足 08/16 01:27
→ tdkblur:我可以接受"您不覺得"這個事實,那是您的想法,我沒有要影響 08/16 01:28
→ tdkblur:但事實就是事實,說了卻做不到本來就有誠信問題,這不是拐個 08/16 01:32
→ tdkblur:彎解釋就可以改變的:) 08/16 01:33
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