大家對小丑裡的主持人莫瑞有何看法? - 電影
By Freda
at 2019-10-09T22:36
at 2019-10-09T22:36
Table of Contents
莫瑞從頭到尾就是在利用亞瑟搏收視
一次公開拿人家出糗影片嘲諷提升收視率,叫做無知;
第二次請別人上節目了,看情況不對還不咖掉,就是有意為之
到後來亞瑟爆走開始坦承自己殺人,
莫瑞一副正義記者要設陷阱套亞瑟話,
把節目搞成現場插播殺人犯專訪搏收視率,
莫瑞這種人說他好人我也是醉了;
後台的表現??
導播就黑臉讓他這個大牌主持人當白臉做形象很難懂嗎??
而且客觀狀況莫瑞沒義務滿足亞瑟空虛,
但反過頭來亞瑟也沒義務滿足莫瑞的收視率自作賤被羞辱不是嗎???
把這種給亞瑟上節目被二次羞辱當成施予恩惠,
直白一點就站著說話不腰疼,
從小沒被霸凌沒餓過一天肚皮高高在上的階層,
那有所謂同理心?有的就滿滿的"我把你當人看"上階層傲慢而已
你我現實生活中到處可見這種人,
只是因為社會文化的包袱沒真的把對方幹掉
並不代表這種思想狀況不存在,
刻意抽離小丑這部片的社會背景,其實原因就很簡單了:
這片太寫實了,寫實到中階層以上很容易找到自己的影子投射
不抽離社會背景,等於認同導演所試圖控訴的:
每個人在體系的漠視或推一把,都是間接殺人的推手
: 抱歉,因為現在有點忙碌所以不太專心,我這裡作個總結式的回應
: 或許flysonic關於肥宅和正妹的比喻是無心的,他並沒有想那麼多
: 但小丑這部電影的主題是包含社會貧富不均的更宏觀和廣泛的議題在內的
: 也就是說關於小丑的任何討論如果抽離了高譚市貧富不均的這個大背景
: 就必然是殘缺的
: 我也同意,小丑所殺害的許多人其實是罪不致死
: 但對瘋子討價還價是毫無意義的(你還想跟瘋子講道理?)
: 就算讓瘋子認錯也無法阻止下一個瘋子的誕生
: 我們應該專注於如何不讓社會產生更多的小丑
: 要減少小丑的誕生
: 掌權者和既得利益者首先就要承認一個他們不願意承認的事實
: 就是他們的行為是間接殺人
: 是手不染血但影響更廣泛的社會壓迫
: 因為我們的社會是一個整體
: 是由各種階層和認同和相互合作所構成的整體
: 只要莫瑞同屬那個階層,就不可能事不關己
: 如果說從小受虐或被同事欺負被偶像嘲笑這些有直接對象的都可以說問題不嚴重
: 那影響更廣泛的錯誤政策,刪減福利,貧富不均,制度不公,貪污腐敗
: 這些沒有直接對象的,屬於階層性或集體性的犯罪,又該找誰討呢?
: 那人民起義時討伐的對象必然是整個社會秩序
: 所以問題的重點並不是亞瑟是不是又魯又宅
: 小丑這部電影的問題重點是:
: "什麼樣病態的社會才讓亞瑟這種受害者越來越多??"
: 就算亞瑟真的又魯又宅
: 只要把問題拔高到電影主題的社會正義問題
: 那亞瑟就有了正當性
: 因為這部電影切入的視角就是亞瑟是受害者
: 這就是為什麼掌權者或既得利益者不管怎樣都不能嘲笑人民
: 因為由他們口中說出來就不會只是他們個人的問題
: 而會被拔高到社會階層對立的層面
--
一次公開拿人家出糗影片嘲諷提升收視率,叫做無知;
第二次請別人上節目了,看情況不對還不咖掉,就是有意為之
到後來亞瑟爆走開始坦承自己殺人,
莫瑞一副正義記者要設陷阱套亞瑟話,
把節目搞成現場插播殺人犯專訪搏收視率,
莫瑞這種人說他好人我也是醉了;
後台的表現??
導播就黑臉讓他這個大牌主持人當白臉做形象很難懂嗎??
而且客觀狀況莫瑞沒義務滿足亞瑟空虛,
但反過頭來亞瑟也沒義務滿足莫瑞的收視率自作賤被羞辱不是嗎???
把這種給亞瑟上節目被二次羞辱當成施予恩惠,
直白一點就站著說話不腰疼,
從小沒被霸凌沒餓過一天肚皮高高在上的階層,
那有所謂同理心?有的就滿滿的"我把你當人看"上階層傲慢而已
你我現實生活中到處可見這種人,
只是因為社會文化的包袱沒真的把對方幹掉
並不代表這種思想狀況不存在,
刻意抽離小丑這部片的社會背景,其實原因就很簡單了:
這片太寫實了,寫實到中階層以上很容易找到自己的影子投射
不抽離社會背景,等於認同導演所試圖控訴的:
每個人在體系的漠視或推一把,都是間接殺人的推手
: 抱歉,因為現在有點忙碌所以不太專心,我這裡作個總結式的回應
: 或許flysonic關於肥宅和正妹的比喻是無心的,他並沒有想那麼多
: 但小丑這部電影的主題是包含社會貧富不均的更宏觀和廣泛的議題在內的
: 也就是說關於小丑的任何討論如果抽離了高譚市貧富不均的這個大背景
: 就必然是殘缺的
: 我也同意,小丑所殺害的許多人其實是罪不致死
: 但對瘋子討價還價是毫無意義的(你還想跟瘋子講道理?)
: 就算讓瘋子認錯也無法阻止下一個瘋子的誕生
: 我們應該專注於如何不讓社會產生更多的小丑
: 要減少小丑的誕生
: 掌權者和既得利益者首先就要承認一個他們不願意承認的事實
: 就是他們的行為是間接殺人
: 是手不染血但影響更廣泛的社會壓迫
: 因為我們的社會是一個整體
: 是由各種階層和認同和相互合作所構成的整體
: 只要莫瑞同屬那個階層,就不可能事不關己
: 如果說從小受虐或被同事欺負被偶像嘲笑這些有直接對象的都可以說問題不嚴重
: 那影響更廣泛的錯誤政策,刪減福利,貧富不均,制度不公,貪污腐敗
: 這些沒有直接對象的,屬於階層性或集體性的犯罪,又該找誰討呢?
: 那人民起義時討伐的對象必然是整個社會秩序
: 所以問題的重點並不是亞瑟是不是又魯又宅
: 小丑這部電影的問題重點是:
: "什麼樣病態的社會才讓亞瑟這種受害者越來越多??"
: 就算亞瑟真的又魯又宅
: 只要把問題拔高到電影主題的社會正義問題
: 那亞瑟就有了正當性
: 因為這部電影切入的視角就是亞瑟是受害者
: 這就是為什麼掌權者或既得利益者不管怎樣都不能嘲笑人民
: 因為由他們口中說出來就不會只是他們個人的問題
: 而會被拔高到社會階層對立的層面
--
All Comments
By Irma
at 2019-10-12T17:22
at 2019-10-12T17:22
By Megan
at 2019-10-14T00:48
at 2019-10-14T00:48
By Dorothy
at 2019-10-14T05:50
at 2019-10-14T05:50
By Hardy
at 2019-10-15T15:08
at 2019-10-15T15:08
By Gilbert
at 2019-10-19T09:23
at 2019-10-19T09:23
By Rosalind
at 2019-10-20T05:38
at 2019-10-20T05:38
By Rosalind
at 2019-10-22T00:13
at 2019-10-22T00:13
By Todd Johnson
at 2019-10-23T09:51
at 2019-10-23T09:51
By Andrew
at 2019-10-24T22:45
at 2019-10-24T22:45
By Hedy
at 2019-10-28T21:07
at 2019-10-28T21:07
By Hedwig
at 2019-11-02T09:40
at 2019-11-02T09:40
By Quintina
at 2019-11-05T15:00
at 2019-11-05T15:00
By Ingrid
at 2019-11-05T17:50
at 2019-11-05T17:50
By Zora
at 2019-11-07T04:10
at 2019-11-07T04:10
By Elizabeth
at 2019-11-09T06:34
at 2019-11-09T06:34
By Agatha
at 2019-11-10T05:35
at 2019-11-10T05:35
By Daph Bay
at 2019-11-11T11:10
at 2019-11-11T11:10
By Victoria
at 2019-11-13T09:44
at 2019-11-13T09:44
By Kumar
at 2019-11-16T13:38
at 2019-11-16T13:38
By Selena
at 2019-11-21T06:39
at 2019-11-21T06:39
By Rosalind
at 2019-11-25T10:12
at 2019-11-25T10:12
By Kelly
at 2019-11-29T23:46
at 2019-11-29T23:46
By Barb Cronin
at 2019-12-02T03:58
at 2019-12-02T03:58
By Edwina
at 2019-12-06T04:33
at 2019-12-06T04:33
By Zanna
at 2019-12-06T22:23
at 2019-12-06T22:23
By Mary
at 2019-12-08T04:29
at 2019-12-08T04:29
By Kristin
at 2019-12-10T10:16
at 2019-12-10T10:16
By Jacob
at 2019-12-11T09:43
at 2019-12-11T09:43
By Brianna
at 2019-12-15T15:57
at 2019-12-15T15:57
By Lucy
at 2019-12-17T00:53
at 2019-12-17T00:53
By Oliver
at 2019-12-21T02:19
at 2019-12-21T02:19
By Rachel
at 2019-12-22T15:40
at 2019-12-22T15:40
By Lily
at 2019-12-27T10:43
at 2019-12-27T10:43
By Ophelia
at 2019-12-30T14:10
at 2019-12-30T14:10
By Damian
at 2020-01-04T08:16
at 2020-01-04T08:16
By Mary
at 2020-01-08T21:54
at 2020-01-08T21:54
By Doris
at 2020-01-11T02:29
at 2020-01-11T02:29
By Jacky
at 2020-01-12T22:12
at 2020-01-12T22:12
By Yedda
at 2020-01-15T03:55
at 2020-01-15T03:55
By Jacky
at 2020-01-17T02:30
at 2020-01-17T02:30
By Elvira
at 2020-01-18T14:42
at 2020-01-18T14:42
By Margaret
at 2020-01-23T03:05
at 2020-01-23T03:05
By Lily
at 2020-01-25T04:22
at 2020-01-25T04:22
By Rachel
at 2020-01-25T10:14
at 2020-01-25T10:14
By Xanthe
at 2020-01-26T13:28
at 2020-01-26T13:28
By Lauren
at 2020-01-28T01:10
at 2020-01-28T01:10
By Carolina Franco
at 2020-01-30T12:11
at 2020-01-30T12:11
By Rachel
at 2020-01-31T15:56
at 2020-01-31T15:56
By Faithe
at 2020-02-03T06:12
at 2020-02-03T06:12
By Rachel
at 2020-02-04T10:22
at 2020-02-04T10:22
By Erin
at 2020-02-05T20:54
at 2020-02-05T20:54
By Robert
at 2020-02-10T10:34
at 2020-02-10T10:34
By Anonymous
at 2020-02-11T05:41
at 2020-02-11T05:41
By Mason
at 2020-02-13T06:18
at 2020-02-13T06:18
By Hamiltion
at 2020-02-15T14:31
at 2020-02-15T14:31
By Hardy
at 2020-02-17T11:34
at 2020-02-17T11:34
By Necoo
at 2020-02-21T10:32
at 2020-02-21T10:32
By Quanna
at 2020-02-22T00:13
at 2020-02-22T00:13
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2020-02-26T12:04
at 2020-02-26T12:04
By Quanna
at 2020-02-27T12:41
at 2020-02-27T12:41
By Odelette
at 2020-03-01T14:41
at 2020-03-01T14:41
By Anthony
at 2020-03-02T21:29
at 2020-03-02T21:29
By Connor
at 2020-03-03T03:52
at 2020-03-03T03:52
By Lucy
at 2020-03-03T12:39
at 2020-03-03T12:39
By Yedda
at 2020-03-07T08:03
at 2020-03-07T08:03
By Sandy
at 2020-03-10T16:00
at 2020-03-10T16:00
By Anthony
at 2020-03-11T16:49
at 2020-03-11T16:49
By Queena
at 2020-03-13T16:28
at 2020-03-13T16:28
By Adele
at 2020-03-14T17:39
at 2020-03-14T17:39
By Ingrid
at 2020-03-16T23:28
at 2020-03-16T23:28
By Olive
at 2020-03-18T16:27
at 2020-03-18T16:27
By Poppy
at 2020-03-19T21:23
at 2020-03-19T21:23
By Olivia
at 2020-03-22T16:04
at 2020-03-22T16:04
By Irma
at 2020-03-27T15:42
at 2020-03-27T15:42
By Rae
at 2020-03-30T20:52
at 2020-03-30T20:52
By Hardy
at 2020-03-31T14:00
at 2020-03-31T14:00
By Christine
at 2020-04-02T02:32
at 2020-04-02T02:32
By Linda
at 2020-04-06T20:51
at 2020-04-06T20:51
By Oscar
at 2020-04-09T04:13
at 2020-04-09T04:13
By Olivia
at 2020-04-13T13:50
at 2020-04-13T13:50
By Bethany
at 2020-04-15T08:42
at 2020-04-15T08:42
By Una
at 2020-04-15T21:25
at 2020-04-15T21:25
By Mason
at 2020-04-20T04:32
at 2020-04-20T04:32
By Carol
at 2020-04-20T12:15
at 2020-04-20T12:15
By George
at 2020-04-24T06:26
at 2020-04-24T06:26
By Irma
at 2020-04-27T19:20
at 2020-04-27T19:20
By Bethany
at 2020-04-30T00:23
at 2020-04-30T00:23
By Agnes
at 2020-04-30T23:51
at 2020-04-30T23:51
By Susan
at 2020-05-01T02:35
at 2020-05-01T02:35
By Barb Cronin
at 2020-05-03T04:21
at 2020-05-03T04:21
By Harry
at 2020-05-03T13:33
at 2020-05-03T13:33
By Caroline
at 2020-05-05T12:08
at 2020-05-05T12:08
By Lydia
at 2020-05-08T18:44
at 2020-05-08T18:44
By Yedda
at 2020-05-11T18:11
at 2020-05-11T18:11
By Freda
at 2020-05-13T18:36
at 2020-05-13T18:36
By Dinah
at 2020-05-16T11:49
at 2020-05-16T11:49
By Valerie
at 2020-05-18T01:55
at 2020-05-18T01:55
By Gary
at 2020-05-22T00:40
at 2020-05-22T00:40
By Freda
at 2020-05-24T12:09
at 2020-05-24T12:09
By Margaret
at 2020-05-28T02:03
at 2020-05-28T02:03
By Cara
at 2020-05-30T15:50
at 2020-05-30T15:50
By Hamiltion
at 2020-06-02T21:42
at 2020-06-02T21:42
By Kristin
at 2020-06-05T07:20
at 2020-06-05T07:20
By Jake
at 2020-06-09T18:10
at 2020-06-09T18:10
By Margaret
at 2020-06-12T07:18
at 2020-06-12T07:18
By Skylar Davis
at 2020-06-16T16:08
at 2020-06-16T16:08
By Skylar Davis
at 2020-06-19T11:11
at 2020-06-19T11:11
By Emma
at 2020-06-22T03:52
at 2020-06-22T03:52
By Irma
at 2020-06-22T18:21
at 2020-06-22T18:21
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-06-26T00:26
at 2020-06-26T00:26
By Skylar Davis
at 2020-06-30T04:15
at 2020-06-30T04:15
By William
at 2020-07-03T23:21
at 2020-07-03T23:21
By Andy
at 2020-07-04T01:20
at 2020-07-04T01:20
By Dorothy
at 2020-07-08T23:55
at 2020-07-08T23:55
By Frederica
at 2020-07-10T06:07
at 2020-07-10T06:07
By Daph Bay
at 2020-07-11T22:58
at 2020-07-11T22:58
By Cara
at 2020-07-16T05:31
at 2020-07-16T05:31
By Madame
at 2020-07-18T00:47
at 2020-07-18T00:47
By Harry
at 2020-07-19T09:24
at 2020-07-19T09:24
By Caitlin
at 2020-07-22T09:01
at 2020-07-22T09:01
By Lauren
at 2020-07-26T22:43
at 2020-07-26T22:43
By Ina
at 2020-07-27T09:08
at 2020-07-27T09:08
By Quintina
at 2020-07-30T10:47
at 2020-07-30T10:47
By Kumar
at 2020-08-01T11:17
at 2020-08-01T11:17
By Eden
at 2020-08-05T09:20
at 2020-08-05T09:20
By Agnes
at 2020-08-08T12:53
at 2020-08-08T12:53
By Freda
at 2020-08-13T01:29
at 2020-08-13T01:29
By Enid
at 2020-08-13T11:06
at 2020-08-13T11:06
By Freda
at 2020-08-16T01:14
at 2020-08-16T01:14
By Brianna
at 2020-08-19T15:00
at 2020-08-19T15:00
By Rebecca
at 2020-08-23T04:12
at 2020-08-23T04:12
By Poppy
at 2020-08-27T01:54
at 2020-08-27T01:54
By Megan
at 2020-08-28T20:11
at 2020-08-28T20:11
By Eartha
at 2020-09-02T17:33
at 2020-09-02T17:33
By Iris
at 2020-09-02T22:32
at 2020-09-02T22:32
By Caroline
at 2020-09-03T10:45
at 2020-09-03T10:45
By Hedy
at 2020-09-06T18:18
at 2020-09-06T18:18
By Carol
at 2020-09-10T09:20
at 2020-09-10T09:20
By Ingrid
at 2020-09-13T22:54
at 2020-09-13T22:54
By Genevieve
at 2020-09-17T20:38
at 2020-09-17T20:38
By Queena
at 2020-09-19T14:05
at 2020-09-19T14:05
By Charlotte
at 2020-09-22T08:56
at 2020-09-22T08:56
By Ursula
at 2020-09-27T00:54
at 2020-09-27T00:54
By Isla
at 2020-09-28T14:25
at 2020-09-28T14:25
By James
at 2020-09-30T01:45
at 2020-09-30T01:45
By John
at 2020-09-30T14:06
at 2020-09-30T14:06
By Emma
at 2020-10-05T05:05
at 2020-10-05T05:05
By Frederica
at 2020-10-06T18:21
at 2020-10-06T18:21
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-10-10T23:10
at 2020-10-10T23:10
By Charlie
at 2020-10-12T00:12
at 2020-10-12T00:12
By Poppy
at 2020-10-13T08:12
at 2020-10-13T08:12
By Queena
at 2020-10-16T13:08
at 2020-10-16T13:08
By Frederica
at 2020-10-20T10:37
at 2020-10-20T10:37
By Olga
at 2020-10-25T04:09
at 2020-10-25T04:09
By Hedda
at 2020-10-27T22:48
at 2020-10-27T22:48
By Mason
at 2020-11-01T22:44
at 2020-11-01T22:44
By Ophelia
at 2020-11-06T15:39
at 2020-11-06T15:39
By Gary
at 2020-11-10T19:03
at 2020-11-10T19:03
By Margaret
at 2020-11-14T07:31
at 2020-11-14T07:31
By Jacky
at 2020-11-18T03:05
at 2020-11-18T03:05
By Doris
at 2020-11-22T10:36
at 2020-11-22T10:36
By Franklin
at 2020-11-27T01:48
at 2020-11-27T01:48
By Margaret
at 2020-11-29T14:44
at 2020-11-29T14:44
By Yedda
at 2020-11-30T15:39
at 2020-11-30T15:39
By Genevieve
at 2020-12-05T08:28
at 2020-12-05T08:28
By Delia
at 2020-12-09T21:20
at 2020-12-09T21:20
By Enid
at 2020-12-10T21:21
at 2020-12-10T21:21
By Robert
at 2020-12-11T19:54
at 2020-12-11T19:54
By Enid
at 2020-12-12T03:25
at 2020-12-12T03:25
By Anonymous
at 2020-12-13T19:06
at 2020-12-13T19:06
By Jake
at 2020-12-14T19:54
at 2020-12-14T19:54
By Hazel
at 2020-12-17T09:55
at 2020-12-17T09:55
By Andrew
at 2020-12-21T08:49
at 2020-12-21T08:49
By Elizabeth
at 2020-12-23T06:47
at 2020-12-23T06:47
By Tracy
at 2020-12-24T09:30
at 2020-12-24T09:30
By Blanche
at 2020-12-25T11:36
at 2020-12-25T11:36
By Jake
at 2020-12-26T01:58
at 2020-12-26T01:58
By Linda
at 2020-12-27T04:23
at 2020-12-27T04:23
By Bennie
at 2020-12-30T03:26
at 2020-12-30T03:26
Related Posts
滿分續作 屍樂園 (無雷
By Xanthe
at 2019-10-09T22:34
at 2019-10-09T22:34
問一部電影
By Lily
at 2019-10-09T21:46
at 2019-10-09T21:46
如果看小丑的時候旁邊的人有人大笑?
By Bennie
at 2019-10-09T21:29
at 2019-10-09T21:29
大家對小丑裡的主持人莫瑞有何看法?
By Candice
at 2019-10-09T21:12
at 2019-10-09T21:12
大家對小丑裡的主持人莫瑞有何看法?
By Xanthe
at 2019-10-09T21:08
at 2019-10-09T21:08