孤味-渣男死了就不是渣男了? - 電影

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「孤味」挾著老中青一眾優秀演員
還有好聽的主題曲,在去年拿下金馬多項提名
更幫助國民阿嬤淑芳阿姨一舉拿下金馬影后
在還沒上網飛之前就讓我非常期待。
雖然鋪天蓋地的好雷宣傳之下
還是可以聽到類似「有質感的鄉土劇」這樣的評語
但鄉土劇並不代表就是爛片
因為我看過花漾,更知道什麼是拍爛的戲說台灣。
昨天趁著晚上的空檔看了一下孤味,先說優點。
1. 剪輯流暢
2. 演員詮釋恰到其份
不說淑芬阿姨教科書級別的老闆嬤演技
徐若瑄、孫可芳都在水準之上
謝盈萱也收起過去那種劉三蓮式的舞台劇演法
雖然表現的機會不多,但角色本身戲劇性很夠
她的詮釋也內斂感人。
徐若瑄稍弱一點,但開口不出戲,整體表現也很好
以她過去那種歌手或是只賣臉的形象來說已值得鼓勵
孫可芳則是我從「天黑請閉眼」就很喜歡的演員
她是那時候全劇我覺得最亮眼的
這次表現空間比較小一點,鋒頭有點被謝盈萱搶走
不過還是把那種孺慕爸爸、不諒解媽媽的感情演得很好
讓人看了很想狠狠甩她兩巴掌,也是成功了。
3. 配樂好
其實孤味這首歌本身我覺得還好
不如「刻在」讓人印象深刻(跟戲無關,只是單純說歌本身
但選用「再會吧心愛的無緣的人」很犀利
再來說說缺點
其實在給分數之前我猶豫很久,到底要給好雷還是普雷
最後還是因為演員、剪輯、導演、配樂等等原因給了好雷
不過因為劇情不順之處太多,其實差點把其他的優點都抵銷掉
我有看過短版的孤味,劇情非常流暢感人
電影版要擴寫這個故事勢必要加入很多新的情節
但在大方向不變的情況下,我覺得這個改寫是失敗的。
我不知道這個劇本裡有多少是現實,但我只能說一切都很不合理。
1. 爸爸的人設
一開始爸爸是個臨死了才想要回家的渣男,中間觀眾又發現
原來他還偷拿老婆的印章借錢、不斷出軌,20年不跟家裡聯絡
然後不曉得是不是為了戲劇性轉折,在結尾再度髮夾彎
讓淑芳阿姨坦承是自己偷蓋爸爸的印章借錢
於是爸爸的形象又變成為妻吞忍,背負罵名的大聖人。
看到這邊我真的覺得莫名其妙。
編劇你到底想怎樣?
如果他是一個這麼好的人,怎麼會不斷出軌、不顧老婆的意願一直想離婚
然後即使沒離婚也20年不跟老婆聯絡,不管她還有三個女兒的死活?
這強行洗白製造轉折的手段也太粗糙了吧?
2. 女兒們對爸爸的感情
這方面我相信不只是我,很多人看了都覺得頭 很 痛。
對一個20年不聯絡的爸爸感情深厚,但對把自己養大的媽媽卻一點都不體諒?
兩個姐姐還算是有跟爸爸朝夕相處過,或許爸爸也是很疼女兒可以理解
但媽媽到底哪裡對不起小女兒?
小女兒不斷的表現出對爸爸的感情,但我完全感受不到這感情從哪來的。
她既不是爸爸家養大的,也沒怎麼跟爸爸相處過
雖然看起來應該是長期都有在私下聯絡
但自己都接手媽媽的生意了,還不能理解媽媽的辛苦
這世上真的有這麼忘恩負義的人嗎?
而兩個姐姐其實也讓我難以理解,都已經跟著媽媽去抓姦了
難道還覺得爸爸其實人不壞只是愛玩
????????
然後謝盈萱癌症復發這邊很感人,她也演得很好
但恕我直言我真的不知道這個情節到底有什麼用處?
更別說當初她化療的時候陪著她的一定也是媽媽姐妹
現在在那邊一副我是天邊一朵雲你們都不要管我
到底端著給誰看的?我真的無法理解這個角色。
然後二姐一直要逼女兒去讀書,說到小時候也有點被媽媽逼著讀書
這個情節我也不知道是要表達什麼
是不是應該多安排一點細節,比如說她很喜歡畫畫,媽媽跟她說讀書才有出息
之類的,這個角色才會更立體圓滿,而不是給人一種
我好像要講什麼,啊還是算了 的感覺
基本上整部戲都有這種少了一點細節的感覺
美林阿姨也是完全沒有細節,徹頭徹尾的工具性角色
只能說還是那個結論
孤味的所有環節都很精彩,但劇情真的不行。
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 雷文 主文分隔線 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
「孤味」挾著老中青一眾優秀演員
還有好聽的主題曲,在去年拿下金馬多項提名
更幫助國民阿嬤淑芳阿姨一舉拿下金馬影后
在還沒上網飛之前就讓我非常期待。
雖然鋪天蓋地的好雷宣傳之下
還是可以聽到類似「有質感的鄉土劇」這樣的評語
但鄉土劇並不代表就是爛片
因為我看過花漾,更知道什麼是拍爛的戲說台灣。
昨天趁著晚上的空檔看了一下孤味,先說優點。
1. 剪輯流暢
2. 演員詮釋恰到其份
不說淑芬阿姨教科書級別的老闆嬤演技
徐若瑄、孫可芳都在水準之上
謝盈萱也收起過去那種劉三蓮式的舞台劇演法
雖然表現的機會不多,但角色本身戲劇性很夠
她的詮釋也內斂感人。
徐若瑄稍弱一點,但開口不出戲,整體表現也很好
以她過去那種歌手或是只賣臉的形象來說已值得鼓勵
孫可芳則是我從「天黑請閉眼」就很喜歡的演員
她是那時候全劇我覺得最亮眼的
這次表現空間比較小一點,鋒頭有點被謝盈萱搶走
不過還是把那種孺慕爸爸、不諒解媽媽的感情演得很好
讓人看了很想狠狠甩她兩巴掌,也是成功了。
3. 配樂好
其實孤味這首歌本身我覺得還好
不如「刻在」讓人印象深刻(跟戲無關,只是單純說歌本身
但選用「再會吧心愛的無緣的人」很犀利
再來說說缺點
其實在給分數之前我猶豫很久,到底要給好雷還是普雷
最後還是因為演員、剪輯、導演、配樂等等原因給了好雷
不過因為劇情不順之處太多,其實差點把其他的優點都抵銷掉
我有看過短版的孤味,劇情非常流暢感人
電影版要擴寫這個故事勢必要加入很多新的情節
但在大方向不變的情況下,我覺得這個改寫是失敗的。
我不知道這個劇本裡有多少是現實,但我只能說一切都很不合理。
1. 爸爸的人設
一開始爸爸是個臨死了才想要回家的渣男,中間觀眾又發現
原來他還偷拿老婆的印章借錢、不斷出軌,20年不跟家裡聯絡
然後不曉得是不是為了戲劇性轉折,在結尾再度髮夾彎
讓淑芳阿姨坦承是自己偷蓋爸爸的印章借錢
於是爸爸的形象又變成為妻吞忍,背負罵名的大聖人。
看到這邊我真的覺得莫名其妙。
編劇你到底想怎樣?
如果他是一個這麼好的人,怎麼會不斷出軌、不顧老婆的意願一直想離婚
然後即使沒離婚也20年不跟老婆聯絡,不管她還有三個女兒的死活?
這強行洗白製造轉折的手段也太粗糙了吧?
2. 女兒們對爸爸的感情
這方面我相信不只是我,很多人看了都覺得頭 很 痛。
對一個20年不聯絡的爸爸感情深厚,但對把自己養大的媽媽卻一點都不體諒?
兩個姐姐還算是有跟爸爸朝夕相處過,或許爸爸也是很疼女兒可以理解
但媽媽到底哪裡對不起小女兒?
小女兒不斷的表現出對爸爸的感情,但我完全感受不到這感情從哪來的。
她既不是爸爸家養大的,也沒怎麼跟爸爸相處過
雖然看起來應該是長期都有在私下聯絡
但自己都接手媽媽的生意了,還不能理解媽媽的辛苦
這世上真的有這麼忘恩負義的人嗎?
而兩個姐姐其實也讓我難以理解,都已經跟著媽媽去抓姦了
難道還覺得爸爸其實人不壞只是愛玩
????????
然後謝盈萱癌症復發這邊很感人,她也演得很好
但恕我直言我真的不知道這個情節到底有什麼用處?
更別說當初她化療的時候陪著她的一定也是媽媽姐妹
現在在那邊一副我是天邊一朵雲你們都不要管我
到底端著給誰看的?我真的無法理解這個角色。
然後二姐一直要逼女兒去讀書,說到小時候也有點被媽媽逼著讀書
這個情節我也不知道是要表達什麼
是不是應該多安排一點細節,比如說她很喜歡畫畫,媽媽跟她說讀書才有出息
之類的,這個角色才會更立體圓滿,而不是給人一種
我好像要講什麼,啊還是算了 的感覺
基本上整部戲都有這種少了一點細節的感覺
美林阿姨也是完全沒有細節,徹頭徹尾的工具性角色
只能說還是那個結論
孤味的所有環節都很精彩,但劇情真的不行。
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