對聶隱娘的討論有感 - 電影

By Christine
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其實這部片在上映以前 很多人就覺得 電影版一定會因為這部片
掀起一波論戰 看來也的確如此 看看某串美術館言論
其實評論 是否需帶理由這點 我個人覺得持否定
你可以吃東西吃完以後 說他難吃 而不用說為什麼會覺得難吃
但的確有些人 會說難吃以後 再去說他為什麼會覺得難吃
評論這東西很主觀 所以好或壞什麼的 本來就因各種人的主觀意見不同
而有不同看法
但是如果你想說服人 這東西就是難吃 你當然要附理由
不然你只是說難吃 只會被其他覺得好吃的人認為你無的放矢
如果妳本人不在意 那倒也不必真的因為這樣在認真的寫評論和考據
只是真的不喜歡看到 批評評論者本身 好或壞雙方的意見真的該給予尊重
覺得這菜好吃的 尊重覺得這菜的難吃的人 反之亦然
而不是說 去攻擊覺得難吃的人沒有品味 或著攻擊覺得好吃的人附庸風雅
所以我不欣賞什麼覺得好看的人 就像是國王穿新衣故事裡的民眾
真的有人就覺得好看阿 不然為什麼會得獎
再來 有人認為花錢的是大爺 所以說這片爛 是他的權力
我覺得 你愛說他爛是你家的事 跟你有沒有花錢一點關係也沒有
舉例 你今天花錢去美術館看了那些畫作 其中野獸派的 立體派的 抽象派的
這些比較不貼近大眾的畫作 讓你有看沒有懂 你可不可以覺得難看
當然可以 我鼓勵你說出來
但是你說 我花錢去看了一堆爛作品 為什麼我不能說他爛
我就覺得這句的邏輯怪怪的 你有花錢或沒花錢都會覺得這作品爛
那這關你花不花錢有什麼關係
說起來也好笑 畢卡索的畫作 非常多樣有寫實的素描畫作 也有超脫意象的畫作
那些什麼立體派 野獸派 不過就是旁人評論給的分類
但是不會有人花錢去看了他的作品說這是爛畫
最多就是說看不懂
7
何解 因為一堆權威人士說這畫好 還可以講出一堆道理 相反的否定這畫的人
又講不出理由 只會被說不懂 然後再被一堆藝術專門術語壓垮
所以哪敢講這畫爛 只能拼命不斷點頭說 嗯 我看出這畫的意象了 這構圖真是大膽
用色更是一流 這畫面的切割完美的符合黃金比例
可是我真的看不懂畢卡索的格爾尼卡阿 就算看了解說 我還是不覺得好看阿
然後 同樣是藝術取向的聶隱娘 卻被要求要更貼近大眾
如果沒有貼近 就拼命罵 這台詞真爛 我看了其他藝術取向的電影也沒比這部更硬
跳出來罵他爛 就是像對國王說沒穿衣服的小孩一樣勇敢
那我現在跳出來說格爾尼卡 畫那什麼鬼樣子 一頭牛的眼睛歪斜成那樣
我看過其他藝術取向的畫作 也沒像這畫這麼難懂阿
我也覺得說畢卡索畫作好看的人 只是國王新衣故事裡面那些不敢說出國王沒穿衣服的人
可以看看我會被攻擊成什麼樣子
--
把黑色的心臟
藏在腐爛的身體裡
裹著這無趣的世界
--
掀起一波論戰 看來也的確如此 看看某串美術館言論
其實評論 是否需帶理由這點 我個人覺得持否定
你可以吃東西吃完以後 說他難吃 而不用說為什麼會覺得難吃
但的確有些人 會說難吃以後 再去說他為什麼會覺得難吃
評論這東西很主觀 所以好或壞什麼的 本來就因各種人的主觀意見不同
而有不同看法
但是如果你想說服人 這東西就是難吃 你當然要附理由
不然你只是說難吃 只會被其他覺得好吃的人認為你無的放矢
如果妳本人不在意 那倒也不必真的因為這樣在認真的寫評論和考據
只是真的不喜歡看到 批評評論者本身 好或壞雙方的意見真的該給予尊重
覺得這菜好吃的 尊重覺得這菜的難吃的人 反之亦然
而不是說 去攻擊覺得難吃的人沒有品味 或著攻擊覺得好吃的人附庸風雅
所以我不欣賞什麼覺得好看的人 就像是國王穿新衣故事裡的民眾
真的有人就覺得好看阿 不然為什麼會得獎
再來 有人認為花錢的是大爺 所以說這片爛 是他的權力
我覺得 你愛說他爛是你家的事 跟你有沒有花錢一點關係也沒有
舉例 你今天花錢去美術館看了那些畫作 其中野獸派的 立體派的 抽象派的
這些比較不貼近大眾的畫作 讓你有看沒有懂 你可不可以覺得難看
當然可以 我鼓勵你說出來
但是你說 我花錢去看了一堆爛作品 為什麼我不能說他爛
我就覺得這句的邏輯怪怪的 你有花錢或沒花錢都會覺得這作品爛
那這關你花不花錢有什麼關係
說起來也好笑 畢卡索的畫作 非常多樣有寫實的素描畫作 也有超脫意象的畫作
那些什麼立體派 野獸派 不過就是旁人評論給的分類
但是不會有人花錢去看了他的作品說這是爛畫
最多就是說看不懂
7
何解 因為一堆權威人士說這畫好 還可以講出一堆道理 相反的否定這畫的人
又講不出理由 只會被說不懂 然後再被一堆藝術專門術語壓垮
所以哪敢講這畫爛 只能拼命不斷點頭說 嗯 我看出這畫的意象了 這構圖真是大膽
用色更是一流 這畫面的切割完美的符合黃金比例
可是我真的看不懂畢卡索的格爾尼卡阿 就算看了解說 我還是不覺得好看阿
然後 同樣是藝術取向的聶隱娘 卻被要求要更貼近大眾
如果沒有貼近 就拼命罵 這台詞真爛 我看了其他藝術取向的電影也沒比這部更硬
跳出來罵他爛 就是像對國王說沒穿衣服的小孩一樣勇敢
那我現在跳出來說格爾尼卡 畫那什麼鬼樣子 一頭牛的眼睛歪斜成那樣
我看過其他藝術取向的畫作 也沒像這畫這麼難懂阿
我也覺得說畢卡索畫作好看的人 只是國王新衣故事裡面那些不敢說出國王沒穿衣服的人
可以看看我會被攻擊成什麼樣子
--
把黑色的心臟
藏在腐爛的身體裡
裹著這無趣的世界
--
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