對金光的心得 - 布袋戲

By Mason
at 2013-07-07T19:35
at 2013-07-07T19:35
Table of Contents
:金光的武戲問題 有部分在於太快、太亂
:雖然偶動作很快 速度感十足 但看起來畫面就是力道不夠味
:例如你拿一根針很快地戳 跟拿一個槌子放慢一槌 哪個力量大
:(慘了 譬喻不好就請見諒)
:至於到底怎麼做才好 這就有待專業攝影人給點意見了
不才必須先說: 戲,不是這麼譬喻的
先來講針跟槌的分別好了
針的用法就跟原PO講的一樣,出招走向就是要快 狠 準
類似金庸筆下的東方不敗,只是庸老書中形容得太過神乎其技
現實要拍出來分鏡要這樣做:
"先拍令狐沖與任我行慢動作揮劍,用劍畫一個半圓為時30秒"
"東方不敗用正常速度持針向前,完成這個動作為時5秒"
然後後製再去剪接,交給動畫師補上光影,這才看到神速的東方不敗
再來講槌,拿槌的名家不才認識不多,但可以拿個接近的
把人槌到像種蘿蔔的燕歸人應該接近了吧
首先聖戟神嘆還不夠重,孤問槍多少算夠格了
這兩把兵器都有個共同點:它們的槍柄部分是有彈性的
有彈性這點可以說是拍戲要看成果可以看到最大的優點
同時也是操死操偶師的缺點
因為有彈性,只要揮動方向正確再適時地放慢動作,力道加上速度根本完美
可是有彈性的缺點相對在於難以掌控
一旦揮動的方向出錯呢.......顆顆...重拍加上操偶師過勞
抱歉,這感覺目前的金光負擔不起
回到原PO講的問題:速度太快看不清楚
簡單來講,一個戲場兩個禮拜要趕出兩集的文戲加武戲
那多少要用點偷吃步的手段,就好像牛肉要快爛要加可樂或是青木瓜一樣
其實只要放慢到0.8部的速率,可以看清楚苗王的狼王印跟黑白的出招招架
要做到原PO所要求的,就必須像前面東方不敗的拍法,快慢交互利用
每場武戲都這樣搞,還要有後製時間
兩個禮拜就要看到金光出新劇集,顆顆........不可能
(用了兩次顆顆,是因為這樣搞,就算是後製技能點到滿,只能一天睡四小時而已)
問題是現在金光第二組人員才剛到位,再拍這集的時候搞不好只有一組人馬而已
而且膠捲有多貴呢?嗯...真的很貴,而且一次性的東西,拍爛就毀掉...
現在金光的人力不才看來,是常常拿100%的人力在做100%的事情
問題是人能天天都拿這100%出來嗎?
我親人這樣做過,過四五年後人甲狀腺亢進開刀,休養生息一年才好
而金光吃虧在於:因為他表現太好了,只要一出包就會被人拿放大鏡檢視
不過人要跳出來拍自己的夢想,有時候就是要燃燒自己的小宇宙...
大俠若是想要延續這個夢想跟感動,有必須要考量自己身體的極限
以上,眾板友請不吝指教 <(_ _)>
--
推 ahlolha:三個徒弟會看到一劍無悔會有不同的意含吧 讓我們繼續看下
→ ahlolha:去
推 firezeus:俏如來:我懂了,師尊你要給我的教導是精神,是信念!
→ firezeus:劍無極:我知道了,原來無極劍法可以有這層深意。
→ firezeus:銀燕:師尊啊!任飄渺你該死啦!
--
:雖然偶動作很快 速度感十足 但看起來畫面就是力道不夠味
:例如你拿一根針很快地戳 跟拿一個槌子放慢一槌 哪個力量大
:(慘了 譬喻不好就請見諒)
:至於到底怎麼做才好 這就有待專業攝影人給點意見了
不才必須先說: 戲,不是這麼譬喻的
先來講針跟槌的分別好了
針的用法就跟原PO講的一樣,出招走向就是要快 狠 準
類似金庸筆下的東方不敗,只是庸老書中形容得太過神乎其技
現實要拍出來分鏡要這樣做:
"先拍令狐沖與任我行慢動作揮劍,用劍畫一個半圓為時30秒"
"東方不敗用正常速度持針向前,完成這個動作為時5秒"
然後後製再去剪接,交給動畫師補上光影,這才看到神速的東方不敗
再來講槌,拿槌的名家不才認識不多,但可以拿個接近的
把人槌到像種蘿蔔的燕歸人應該接近了吧
首先聖戟神嘆還不夠重,孤問槍多少算夠格了
這兩把兵器都有個共同點:它們的槍柄部分是有彈性的
有彈性這點可以說是拍戲要看成果可以看到最大的優點
同時也是操死操偶師的缺點
因為有彈性,只要揮動方向正確再適時地放慢動作,力道加上速度根本完美
可是有彈性的缺點相對在於難以掌控
一旦揮動的方向出錯呢.......顆顆...重拍加上操偶師過勞
抱歉,這感覺目前的金光負擔不起
回到原PO講的問題:速度太快看不清楚
簡單來講,一個戲場兩個禮拜要趕出兩集的文戲加武戲
那多少要用點偷吃步的手段,就好像牛肉要快爛要加可樂或是青木瓜一樣
其實只要放慢到0.8部的速率,可以看清楚苗王的狼王印跟黑白的出招招架
要做到原PO所要求的,就必須像前面東方不敗的拍法,快慢交互利用
每場武戲都這樣搞,還要有後製時間
兩個禮拜就要看到金光出新劇集,顆顆........不可能
(用了兩次顆顆,是因為這樣搞,就算是後製技能點到滿,只能一天睡四小時而已)
問題是現在金光第二組人員才剛到位,再拍這集的時候搞不好只有一組人馬而已
而且膠捲有多貴呢?嗯...真的很貴,而且一次性的東西,拍爛就毀掉...
現在金光的人力不才看來,是常常拿100%的人力在做100%的事情
問題是人能天天都拿這100%出來嗎?
我親人這樣做過,過四五年後人甲狀腺亢進開刀,休養生息一年才好
而金光吃虧在於:因為他表現太好了,只要一出包就會被人拿放大鏡檢視
不過人要跳出來拍自己的夢想,有時候就是要燃燒自己的小宇宙...
大俠若是想要延續這個夢想跟感動,有必須要考量自己身體的極限
以上,眾板友請不吝指教 <(_ _)>
--
推 ahlolha:三個徒弟會看到一劍無悔會有不同的意含吧 讓我們繼續看下
→ ahlolha:去
推 firezeus:俏如來:我懂了,師尊你要給我的教導是精神,是信念!
→ firezeus:劍無極:我知道了,原來無極劍法可以有這層深意。
→ firezeus:銀燕:師尊啊!任飄渺你該死啦!
→ kain:櫻吹雪:真像一塊塊綠豆糕。
--
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