慕容府不派兵救援大爺的可能原因 - 布袋戲

By Hardy
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會大量提及25劇情,還沒看片者請自行迴避。
看完這集的感想先表過不談,在這集出片前就預測慕容府不會有援軍來,因而事先整理了
一些可能理由。今天掃過推文果然此部分演出成為了一大爭議點,故將想法合併本集演出
後發篇文。
老樣子只依照有演出的文本來分析,編劇動機或企圖等等天知道的事情不在論述範圍內。
除了一些常理可推導的事項,會盡量將劇中沒提到部分的臆測控制在最低限度。
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慕容府方最高決策者:御兵韜(代理)→慕容寧 不去救援煙雨的理由有幾個:
0. 先談慕容府方的勝利條件究竟是什麼:
阻止慕容府敗亡 ==> 慕容家血脈(有傳承武學者)存續 且 慕容府組織存續
(封羿神闕和古岳派就算是血脈/傳承存續,但組織被滅故實質沒落的例子)
慕容家血脈目前僅存四人:煙雨、寧、勝雪、還有一個尚未公開承認的冷秋顏
當家的慕容寧不是瞎子,在戲劇中煙雨朝著觀眾插的各種天年將盡旗子他不會沒看到。
(他前幾集就責問過煙雨為什麼有事瞞他不說清楚)
但他本來的立場仍是把煙雨放在很前面的順位。(和勝雪哪個優先沒有明確演出)
而在煙雨的衡量下:他自己可以出事,也要換回寧弟平安,更是不敢讓勝雪有失。
寧原本的衡量是兄弟同命,和煙雨同進退,但在上一集的最後他接受了煙雨的說服:
「鐵驌求衣(代管的慕容府)還需要你」
所以接受了把煙雨的重要順位往後移的決定,可以視為在兩者權衡間他被迫選擇保全組織
存續,也就是看顧慕容府中勢力即兩位慕容新生代。
(理智上線的)鐵驌求衣大概更不用說了,他沒有理由把煙雨的生命放在最優先順位。
畢竟煙雨上一集託他守護慕容府至慕容寧回歸,汲其語意就是保全當時人在府中的兩位新
生代才是。這集要是他帶一群小朋友衝去絕死谷,煙雨就算活了事後可能也會斷他陽根。
勝雪上一集剛被爸爸的愛洗滌心靈變成乖孩子,沒了原本的反骨也很難抗命。
冷秋顏則本來就不具慕容府內的話語權。
全員棄府殺出的選項,在大爺、十三爺兩位都不在家甚至已交代不准時,基本上不存在。
因為這會讓慕容家血脈僅存但組織(門派)本身遭受毀滅性的打擊。無法滿足勝利條件。
※ 安排了一個慕容府二當家卻又讓他恰巧不在這種鬼橋段姑且不提。
1. 不派人接應慕容寧的理由
雖然正劇中鮮少帶到這類鏡頭,但常理而言各組織都有著自己的眼線和情報網。
既然反派開了條件要煙雨單獨赴約,當然不可能會容許「親友團全部等在外面一確保人質
平安就殺進來」的劇本發生。
就像現實中綁匪對受害者家屬通常會有「不能報警」的恐嚇,「單獨赴約」四字底下的意
思往往就附帶「不能帶任何援兵」之條件。
煙雨在二十四集對府中武將嚴令「在十三爺回來前誰也不准動」,可視為即是預防被反方
察覺他們另有圖謀而讓寧遭到撕票的預防措施。
(當然沒在文本中充分強調此環節,也可說是編劇對台詞的安排不夠好,精簡過頭。)
而從同集教宗一行無法接近天允山周遭來看,可驗證真道勢力對一個地點的掌控並非只有
單點,而是人力足以佈防周圍地界。
2. 劇中時間推移狀況
煙雨赴約是子時(深夜11點),雖不知絕死谷殺陣持續多久,但在進軍慕容府時天還未亮。
本集主要幾段劇情也都以夜間為背景。
暗示從煙雨戰死到進軍有可能是幾小時內的事情。可能是真道方的急進軍。
而需要等待寧叔回到安全圈,才能開始調動兵力的慕容府方,又有兵力上的絕對劣勢
(參照本集旁白:被煙雨殺傷慘重的真道人數依然遠勝慕容府兵)
真要揮兵殺往絕死谷,任務難度太艱鉅、風險高到任何醒著的人可能都會翻白眼昏倒。
3. 援兵能給煙雨的幫助
在缺乏強大武將的前提下,少量友軍的參戰無法扭轉數量之劣勢 (甚至對方地利絕大)
未必能改變在煙雨死地被包圍的狀況。
程度太低的援兵也不是沒有變成人質、讓煙雨分心的因素進而拖累戰局的可能性。
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以上幾點大概就是我能列出的不出兵理由。
或許大家隨意看看就好,也不用推文怒嗆我。 因為我還真的沒有很想繼續幫編劇護航。
這篇文章有發就算仁至義盡了。
畢竟寫這麼多,我還是覺得這集讓星月夫妻剛好從台中二度蜜月回來完全故意到有剩。
反正白癡都知道下一集接風歌會被這集冒出來的明星陣容賞一頓粗飽。
而且也真心看不懂黃昏三人組那邊是要演什麼八點檔。
這集雖然大爺下戲的排場很夠格,甚至騙到我眼睛掉了幾滴汗,但說能為整檔加分多少。
一個字:難。
--
#1SNPsExx (Palmar_Drama)
套路過頭的反派與正派,劇情隨便猜隨便中。請禮拜五還有心思堵三弦的人幫我罵兩句吧。
--
看完這集的感想先表過不談,在這集出片前就預測慕容府不會有援軍來,因而事先整理了
一些可能理由。今天掃過推文果然此部分演出成為了一大爭議點,故將想法合併本集演出
後發篇文。
老樣子只依照有演出的文本來分析,編劇動機或企圖等等天知道的事情不在論述範圍內。
除了一些常理可推導的事項,會盡量將劇中沒提到部分的臆測控制在最低限度。
==============================================================================
慕容府方最高決策者:御兵韜(代理)→慕容寧 不去救援煙雨的理由有幾個:
0. 先談慕容府方的勝利條件究竟是什麼:
阻止慕容府敗亡 ==> 慕容家血脈(有傳承武學者)存續 且 慕容府組織存續
(封羿神闕和古岳派就算是血脈/傳承存續,但組織被滅故實質沒落的例子)
慕容家血脈目前僅存四人:煙雨、寧、勝雪、還有一個尚未公開承認的冷秋顏
當家的慕容寧不是瞎子,在戲劇中煙雨朝著觀眾插的各種天年將盡旗子他不會沒看到。
(他前幾集就責問過煙雨為什麼有事瞞他不說清楚)
但他本來的立場仍是把煙雨放在很前面的順位。(和勝雪哪個優先沒有明確演出)
而在煙雨的衡量下:他自己可以出事,也要換回寧弟平安,更是不敢讓勝雪有失。
寧原本的衡量是兄弟同命,和煙雨同進退,但在上一集的最後他接受了煙雨的說服:
「鐵驌求衣(代管的慕容府)還需要你」
所以接受了把煙雨的重要順位往後移的決定,可以視為在兩者權衡間他被迫選擇保全組織
存續,也就是看顧慕容府中勢力即兩位慕容新生代。
(理智上線的)鐵驌求衣大概更不用說了,他沒有理由把煙雨的生命放在最優先順位。
畢竟煙雨上一集託他守護慕容府至慕容寧回歸,汲其語意就是保全當時人在府中的兩位新
生代才是。這集要是他帶一群小朋友衝去絕死谷,煙雨就算活了事後可能也會斷他陽根。
勝雪上一集剛被爸爸的愛洗滌心靈變成乖孩子,沒了原本的反骨也很難抗命。
冷秋顏則本來就不具慕容府內的話語權。
全員棄府殺出的選項,在大爺、十三爺兩位都不在家甚至已交代不准時,基本上不存在。
因為這會讓慕容家血脈僅存但組織(門派)本身遭受毀滅性的打擊。無法滿足勝利條件。
※ 安排了一個慕容府二當家卻又讓他恰巧不在這種鬼橋段姑且不提。
1. 不派人接應慕容寧的理由
雖然正劇中鮮少帶到這類鏡頭,但常理而言各組織都有著自己的眼線和情報網。
既然反派開了條件要煙雨單獨赴約,當然不可能會容許「親友團全部等在外面一確保人質
平安就殺進來」的劇本發生。
就像現實中綁匪對受害者家屬通常會有「不能報警」的恐嚇,「單獨赴約」四字底下的意
思往往就附帶「不能帶任何援兵」之條件。
煙雨在二十四集對府中武將嚴令「在十三爺回來前誰也不准動」,可視為即是預防被反方
察覺他們另有圖謀而讓寧遭到撕票的預防措施。
(當然沒在文本中充分強調此環節,也可說是編劇對台詞的安排不夠好,精簡過頭。)
而從同集教宗一行無法接近天允山周遭來看,可驗證真道勢力對一個地點的掌控並非只有
單點,而是人力足以佈防周圍地界。
2. 劇中時間推移狀況
煙雨赴約是子時(深夜11點),雖不知絕死谷殺陣持續多久,但在進軍慕容府時天還未亮。
本集主要幾段劇情也都以夜間為背景。
暗示從煙雨戰死到進軍有可能是幾小時內的事情。可能是真道方的急進軍。
而需要等待寧叔回到安全圈,才能開始調動兵力的慕容府方,又有兵力上的絕對劣勢
(參照本集旁白:被煙雨殺傷慘重的真道人數依然遠勝慕容府兵)
真要揮兵殺往絕死谷,任務難度太艱鉅、風險高到任何醒著的人可能都會翻白眼昏倒。
3. 援兵能給煙雨的幫助
在缺乏強大武將的前提下,少量友軍的參戰無法扭轉數量之劣勢 (甚至對方地利絕大)
未必能改變在煙雨死地被包圍的狀況。
程度太低的援兵也不是沒有變成人質、讓煙雨分心的因素進而拖累戰局的可能性。
==============================================================================
以上幾點大概就是我能列出的不出兵理由。
或許大家隨意看看就好,也不用推文怒嗆我。 因為我還真的沒有很想繼續幫編劇護航。
這篇文章有發就算仁至義盡了。
畢竟寫這麼多,我還是覺得這集讓星月夫妻剛好從台中二度蜜月回來完全故意到有剩。
反正白癡都知道下一集接風歌會被這集冒出來的明星陣容賞一頓粗飽。
而且也真心看不懂黃昏三人組那邊是要演什麼八點檔。
這集雖然大爺下戲的排場很夠格,甚至騙到我眼睛掉了幾滴汗,但說能為整檔加分多少。
一個字:難。
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#1SNPsExx (Palmar_Drama)
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套路過頭的反派與正派,劇情隨便猜隨便中。請禮拜五還有心思堵三弦的人幫我罵兩句吧。
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