日本男大姐的定義是?? - 日本綜藝

By Ivy
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最近LH常看到男大姐的單元
發現"男大姐"有兩種外型
1.把自己打扮成女人的男大姐
2.依然保持男性打扮的男大姐
"男大姐"這個詞大概也算是緯來獨創翻譯的新詞吧
想知道在日本男大姐的定義大概是什麼?
走娘娘腔路線?
已確定出櫃?
有種說法是"外表是男人 內心卻是女人"
另外
相對於在台灣藝人來說 有比較MAN的女藝人(黃小柔 SHE的艾拉)
好像沒有相對類似"男大姐"的男藝人? (蔡康永? 湯尼陳? 感覺不一樣)
記得很久以前 湯尼陳說自己不是娘娘腔 自稱自己叫做"溫柔漢"
大概是這種感覺嗎??
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發現"男大姐"有兩種外型
1.把自己打扮成女人的男大姐
2.依然保持男性打扮的男大姐
"男大姐"這個詞大概也算是緯來獨創翻譯的新詞吧
想知道在日本男大姐的定義大概是什麼?
走娘娘腔路線?
已確定出櫃?
有種說法是"外表是男人 內心卻是女人"
另外
相對於在台灣藝人來說 有比較MAN的女藝人(黃小柔 SHE的艾拉)
好像沒有相對類似"男大姐"的男藝人? (蔡康永? 湯尼陳? 感覺不一樣)
記得很久以前 湯尼陳說自己不是娘娘腔 自稱自己叫做"溫柔漢"
大概是這種感覺嗎??
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※ 編輯: juncat 來自: 122.146.40.156 (10/14 11:03)
推 jeanvanjohn:秋子大姐? 10/14 11:04
→ a3435357:應該要內心與行為女性化,又愛男人才算 10/14 11:06
→ a3435357:tony陳不知有沒有愛男人?如果沒有,只能算有點娘而已 10/14 11:07
→ pomyopnion:許建國= =? 不過沒有出櫃這樣講人家不太好XD 10/14 11:09
→ juncat:所以確定這些男大姐都是"愛男人"的囉 (看節目好像也是啦) 10/14 11:10
→ juncat:秋子大姐沒人說我還真的不知道他也是男大姐 感覺很女性 10/14 11:11
推 QUIBECK:和田秋子是百分之百的女性 = = 而且結婚了 10/14 11:14
→ QUIBECK:唱靈魂音樂加上低沉嗓音 還有說話與做事的確是很MAN就是了 10/14 11:15
推 QUIBECK:因為子宮頸癌而不能生子 原本沮喪的想跟丈夫離婚 10/14 11:17
→ QUIBECK:但是丈夫說 結婚又不是為了要生子 10/14 11:18
→ QUIBECK:一直到現在都很關心國際兒童問題 10/14 11:18
→ QUIBECK:另外 她本名是金福子(在日韓國人第二代) 10/14 11:19
→ littlecut:秋子哪是男大姊=.= 他本來就女的XDDDDDD 10/14 11:26
推 oukeheo:第一種有一大部份叫 女裝家 .... 10/14 11:27
→ pomyopnion:秋子XDDDD好無辜啊 10/14 11:27
推 Imdancer:秋子姐躺著也中槍XDDDDDD 10/14 11:29
推 kath09:這就是躺著也中槍阿 XDDDDD 10/14 11:29
→ juncat:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 長久的誤會再度誤會 10/14 11:31
→ juncat:我想刪自己推文了說XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/14 11:33
推 nigatsuki:可樂差點噴出來XDDDDDDD 10/14 11:39
推 potent:樓樓上應該是被一樓騙的吧 XDDDD 10/14 11:41
→ juncat:不是 我真的在好幾年前對秋子大姐的認知是"男大姐" 10/14 11:46
推 noio:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD我笑了 10/14 11:55
推 nigatsuki:她的確算滿男性化的一個人啦,不過....w 10/14 11:57
推 tliu223:基本上就是指男身女心吧(不管是真的女人心,還是路線塑造 10/14 11:58
→ tliu223:出的女人心)。其中有舉止言行裝扮陰柔化的おかま,也有 10/14 12:00
→ tliu223:通過手術等手段使得外表特征女性化的newhalf,也有松子、 10/14 12:01
→ tliu223:光子這種明顯是男性女裝的女裝家 10/14 12:02
→ ooooooh:沒錯 第一種是"女裝家" 之前有日本朋友跟我解釋過 10/14 12:02
→ ooooooh:做手術是newhalf也有聽說 不過聽說春菜愛就是做手術了 但 10/14 12:03
→ ooooooh:還沒有更改身分證的性別 他說是給父母一個交代這樣 10/14 12:03
推 poweryeh:想詳細了解可以去Transgender版參考 10/14 12:04
推 freeflora:美川憲一 算男大姊嗎!? 10/14 12:44
推 tnmatin:美川憲一應該是男大姊 10/14 12:55
推 momogi1105:應該沒多少人敢去追究美川憲一是不是男大姊..... 10/14 12:55
推 exilearky:沒看這篇真的不知道秋子是女的....冏 10/14 13:11
推 Xsara:好歹她在紅白都是站在紅組的lol 10/14 13:49
推 mapple9:和原po有一樣的疑問 簡單說gay=男大姐,是這樣嗎? 10/14 14:04
推 nigatsuki:也不能說gay就等於男大姊....吧 10/14 14:12
推 tliu223:gay和男大姐的定義有交叉 但不重合的部分更多 10/14 14:32
推 fakecake:秋子大姊XDDDDD 她看的出來是女生阿!!!! 10/14 14:43
推 poweryeh:美川感覺像CD(cross-dresser) 10/14 14:55
→ poweryeh:男大姐應該是說 生理男心理女&喜歡男生 10/14 14:57
推 phans:所以甲不一定是男大姐但男大姐肯定是甲? 10/14 14:57
→ poweryeh:春菜愛就是MTF(male-to-female) 10/14 14:58
推 tliu223:也不一定 像松子、光子這樣的女裝家到底是不是甲很難說 10/14 15:01
→ potatofat:男大姐(宣稱內心是女性)一定是甲 只是出櫃藉口... 10/14 15:17
→ pomyopnion:但春菜愛這種的 你說他是甲也不太對 10/14 15:24
推 kirakirei:春菜是想成為女性,就是一般所說的人妖,他也動了手術 10/14 15:31
→ kirakirei:男大姐對我來說等於喜歡男人的男人,有0號也有1號 10/14 15:33
推 mapple9:power大這樣解釋就懂了 10/14 15:36
推 silentN:春菜愛是女大叔吧.. 10/14 15:43
推 kaylen:秋子大姊中槍 XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/14 16:09
推 AaliyahTsai:我則是以為南海小靜是男大姐 又高聲音也蠻低的 10/14 16:13
推 walkwall:總之就是還沒動過手術的是嗎? 10/14 16:18
推 yspen:我一直以為秋子大姊本來是男生,動手術後才..... 看ptt長知識 10/14 16:31
推 mirrorswings:樓上XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/14 17:16
→ mirrorswings:好壞唷~~~笑死我了XDDDDD 10/14 17:17
推 momogi1105:小靜之前才跟一個男的傳緋聞耶 10/14 17:43
→ fddk:オカマ-有手術、男轉女~オネエ-女性化甲~女装家-男性前提的甲 10/14 17:50
→ fddk:女裝可以說是喜好? 之前しゃべくり007,ミッツ有解釋女裝家 10/14 17:52
→ fddk:不過很多オネエ也會女裝,只是更女性化,很複雜的感覺XDDD 10/14 17:53
→ nigatsuki:上星期憤怒新黨其實也有聊到對這群人該怎麼稱呼,聊到最 10/14 18:49
→ nigatsuki:後真的會覺得很麻煩XDDDDD 10/14 18:49
推 asdf70044:我也恍然大悟了= = 10/14 20:00
→ habaku:想到另一個人...美輪明宏...一直覺得他也很微妙 10/14 22:19
推 anotoki:大家都誤會秋子大姊了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/14 22:39
推 wcc960:秋子大姊年輕時可正的呢 XD 10/15 00:27
推 Modism:美輪明宏被三島稱為天上界の美,他年輕時有種很棒的妖豔感 10/15 00:57
推 colan8:個人覺得快樂信吾是裝的 ( ′_>`) 10/15 01:01
推 Seedfrog:男大姊系列讓我想到海賊王裡面的人妖 不知道是不是同類? 10/15 01:21
→ charogne:美輪明宏是神 謝謝 10/15 02:00
→ juncat:果然不只有我一個誤會秋子大姐 (解套了) 10/15 04:32
推 riodesu:資深演員peter也算吧 10/15 05:25
推 Snowyc:推colan大,我也覺得快樂信吾是裝的,以至於我很不喜歡他.. 10/15 05:41
推 VEcho:我覺得快樂信吾只是甲同學 不是男大姊耶 10/15 18:39
推 become:快樂譬吾還蠻真的,感覺眼神真的有愛XD 10/15 19:02
推 tliu223:快樂信悟15歲時作為素人上歌唱節目時就是娘娘腔了… 10/15 19:07
推 nigatsuki:快樂信吾以前還演過特攝...w 10/15 19:33
推 baopig:我有點搞不懂耶 男大姊不是只用在男生嗎? 10/15 19:36
推 nigatsuki:是啊 10/15 19:39
推 baopig:那為什麼推文那麼多人一直在講女生的 ="= 10/15 19:50
→ baopig:舉例才對 10/15 19:50
推 nigatsuki:秋子大姊是因為被誤會吧XD 10/15 20:38
→ habaku:某些8 90年代少女漫畫裡的異色美男子根本是描著美輪明宏 10/15 23:40
→ habaku:澤田研二 在畫... 感覺日本對這種方向"美感"的接受度 已經 10/15 23:41
推 habaku:不是一兩天的事... 只是現在好像比較少這類著名的美人? 10/15 23:43
推 dianna72:看推文我才確定秋子是女的XDDDDDDDDD 10/15 23:50
推 suzetta:哈哈哈 看到和田秋子 噗哧了一下XD 10/16 21:45
推 doghouse:秋子大姐....? 這哪招 = = 10/16 23:58
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