月薪嬌妻到底是哪裡好看? - 日劇

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: 標題: Re: [問題] 月薪嬌妻到底是哪裡好看?
: 時間: Thu Dec 29 23:05:03 2016
:
: 第四集末森山みくり對平匡提出戀人革命(當然劇情上一定是這兩人,所以編劇這樣)
: 但是第五集初的解釋是因為平匡太冷淡,みくり會想逃到風見那邊,但如果這樣做平匡
: 一定會更冷,所以みくり要用戀人革命來突破心防。但
: 1.既然這樣就直接衝風見就好了(我知道劇情上不可能,除非想收視率炎上)
: 2.心理系有一個重要的忌諱就是移情,原作漫畫家不知道有沒有注意到,但編劇用
: 戀人來破平匡的防禦。之後如果抽離,平匡一定更慘。
: 所以第五集初的解釋,對於第四集底的選擇,我當時看的反應跟劇中平匡一樣-
: みくり你的邏輯不通啊
: (當然為了演下去可以接受,但編劇的解釋有點遷強)
:
原文恕刪,想針對這段回一下
我對這段的理解是みくり其實不是在說服平匡和觀眾,是在說服自己
事實上看得出來平匡一開始沒有被說服想要反駁
看完最終回後,我覺得她其實就是賭了一把,而且賭對了
以下是我自己理解みくり沒衝風見的原因
先回顧一下津崎平匡這個角色
剛開始我以為我喜愛平匡是因為星野源演得太可愛了
不過戲完結後又思索了幾天,覺得不是只有演員表現好而已
野木亞紀子把這個角色塑造得很奇特
表面上很平凡
但是他一直都在做一些本來應該要做到,現實中卻常常做不到的事情
早在還看不太出星野演技的ep1我就對這個角色有好感
(個人認為演技爆發是在ep4,前面雖然也不錯但是沒有到很驚艷)
從平匡在公車上質疑「請把女兒交給我」這句話很奇怪就開始了
我對這句話也超有意見,但是一直到這部戲才看到有編劇討論這句話
平匡可以質疑那句話,表示他尊重人到達連言語都講究的程度
還記得ep4預告出現時板上都罵翻了,我當時很訝異大家對平匡這麼沒信心
如果編劇沒有忘記自己的設定(有些編劇真的會,但野木應該不會)
會對「請把女兒交給我」這句話有意見的人,怎麼可能說出share這種話?
後來也證明平匡的確覺得share這個用字很不妥
在跟みくり解釋的時候也完全沒提這個字
很多人說這部戲早在ep4就該結束了,現實中女生都會選擇風見
但是不要忘記みくり對「小賢しい」這個詞有很嚴重的心魔
嚴重到不管是自我肯定還是自我否定都在用這個形容詞
不是說風見不尊重人,他畢竟還沒到達連用字都小心的地步
萬一他在那時說他不覺得みくり在耍小聰明,這部戲就真的結束了
但是這個萬一並不會發生,因為講出share這個詞的人就是風見
風見知道怎麼說話討女生開心,但他也沒意識到「小賢しい」有貶意
所以みくり才會一臉可惜地說你沒否定
我個人認為在這個時間點風見就確定出局了
雖然みくり的確有動搖一下,但是畢竟沒打到點
みくり這時應該不知道自己是在等能破除「小賢しい」魔咒的人
只是知道自己喜歡平匡,又想說服自己沒選風見是正確的
才用奇怪的邏輯去說服自己這是對兩方都有利的心理療法
之後的相處也沒有真的在治療
不然也不會被罵就難過,被稱讚一下就心情好起來
不過事實也證明真的選對,平匡果然破了她的魔咒
除了言語上的尊重,平匡也打從心底尊重みくり和她的工作
他自己是高薪工程師,但是也沒有瞧不起拿家務當工作的人
現實中就是很多人瞧不起家庭主婦,覺得她們過很爽不用工作
他當雇主也尊重他的員工,時時表示尊敬和感謝
現實就是很多企業都沒把員工當成人看,而是當成奴隸看
別說感謝了,有時候連離職都要被酸抗壓性不夠、一定是不用養家等等
他在ep7一開始逃避成那樣大家都急了
但是仔細想想他會那麼慌也是合理,雇主未經同意對員工出手本來就是性騷擾
原文也提到雇主本來就有自己的正直和紀律要守
觀眾用愛情劇的角度去看戲,就忽略了原本的雇傭關係,但是平匡一直沒有忘
甚至到變成戀人後都沒有忘,みくり還在工作他就乖乖等
現實世界中如果有平匡這種人,我會尊敬他
這部戲一直不斷鼓勵大家破除偏見
我覺得這部戲本身也挑戰了我對愛情劇的偏見
老實說一開始知道這是少女漫畫改編的劇時
我就想八成又是超平凡女主角被超優秀男主角喜歡上的故事
即使編劇是野木亞紀子,我對這部戲的期待也只有“螢之光”的程度
反正近水樓台曖昧一下,最後再告個白就可以了
事實上前七集調性也就是一部有討論到社會議題的愛情劇
但是到了最終回我卻覺得我是在看一部勵志劇
回想一下,其實野木亞紀子過往的作品也有鼓勵消除偏見的地方
“飛翔公關室”裡她說請把他們想像成只是在自衛隊努力工作的普通人
“重版出來”裡她說不管到了幾歲都可以是新人
“逃避可恥但有用”裡更是各種明寫暗示挑戰各種偏見
這是我心中真正的野木三部曲
這三部戲就製作水準來說可以分出高下,但是就劇本來說我評不出來
因為從三部戲裡我都獲得了往前走的勇氣
--
: 標題: Re: [問題] 月薪嬌妻到底是哪裡好看?
: 時間: Thu Dec 29 23:05:03 2016
:
: 第四集末森山みくり對平匡提出戀人革命(當然劇情上一定是這兩人,所以編劇這樣)
: 但是第五集初的解釋是因為平匡太冷淡,みくり會想逃到風見那邊,但如果這樣做平匡
: 一定會更冷,所以みくり要用戀人革命來突破心防。但
: 1.既然這樣就直接衝風見就好了(我知道劇情上不可能,除非想收視率炎上)
: 2.心理系有一個重要的忌諱就是移情,原作漫畫家不知道有沒有注意到,但編劇用
: 戀人來破平匡的防禦。之後如果抽離,平匡一定更慘。
: 所以第五集初的解釋,對於第四集底的選擇,我當時看的反應跟劇中平匡一樣-
: みくり你的邏輯不通啊
: (當然為了演下去可以接受,但編劇的解釋有點遷強)
:
原文恕刪,想針對這段回一下
我對這段的理解是みくり其實不是在說服平匡和觀眾,是在說服自己
事實上看得出來平匡一開始沒有被說服想要反駁
看完最終回後,我覺得她其實就是賭了一把,而且賭對了
以下是我自己理解みくり沒衝風見的原因
先回顧一下津崎平匡這個角色
剛開始我以為我喜愛平匡是因為星野源演得太可愛了
不過戲完結後又思索了幾天,覺得不是只有演員表現好而已
野木亞紀子把這個角色塑造得很奇特
表面上很平凡
但是他一直都在做一些本來應該要做到,現實中卻常常做不到的事情
早在還看不太出星野演技的ep1我就對這個角色有好感
(個人認為演技爆發是在ep4,前面雖然也不錯但是沒有到很驚艷)
從平匡在公車上質疑「請把女兒交給我」這句話很奇怪就開始了
我對這句話也超有意見,但是一直到這部戲才看到有編劇討論這句話
平匡可以質疑那句話,表示他尊重人到達連言語都講究的程度
還記得ep4預告出現時板上都罵翻了,我當時很訝異大家對平匡這麼沒信心
如果編劇沒有忘記自己的設定(有些編劇真的會,但野木應該不會)
會對「請把女兒交給我」這句話有意見的人,怎麼可能說出share這種話?
後來也證明平匡的確覺得share這個用字很不妥
在跟みくり解釋的時候也完全沒提這個字
很多人說這部戲早在ep4就該結束了,現實中女生都會選擇風見
但是不要忘記みくり對「小賢しい」這個詞有很嚴重的心魔
嚴重到不管是自我肯定還是自我否定都在用這個形容詞
不是說風見不尊重人,他畢竟還沒到達連用字都小心的地步
萬一他在那時說他不覺得みくり在耍小聰明,這部戲就真的結束了
但是這個萬一並不會發生,因為講出share這個詞的人就是風見
風見知道怎麼說話討女生開心,但他也沒意識到「小賢しい」有貶意
所以みくり才會一臉可惜地說你沒否定
我個人認為在這個時間點風見就確定出局了
雖然みくり的確有動搖一下,但是畢竟沒打到點
みくり這時應該不知道自己是在等能破除「小賢しい」魔咒的人
只是知道自己喜歡平匡,又想說服自己沒選風見是正確的
才用奇怪的邏輯去說服自己這是對兩方都有利的心理療法
之後的相處也沒有真的在治療
不然也不會被罵就難過,被稱讚一下就心情好起來
不過事實也證明真的選對,平匡果然破了她的魔咒
除了言語上的尊重,平匡也打從心底尊重みくり和她的工作
他自己是高薪工程師,但是也沒有瞧不起拿家務當工作的人
現實中就是很多人瞧不起家庭主婦,覺得她們過很爽不用工作
他當雇主也尊重他的員工,時時表示尊敬和感謝
現實就是很多企業都沒把員工當成人看,而是當成奴隸看
別說感謝了,有時候連離職都要被酸抗壓性不夠、一定是不用養家等等
他在ep7一開始逃避成那樣大家都急了
但是仔細想想他會那麼慌也是合理,雇主未經同意對員工出手本來就是性騷擾
原文也提到雇主本來就有自己的正直和紀律要守
觀眾用愛情劇的角度去看戲,就忽略了原本的雇傭關係,但是平匡一直沒有忘
甚至到變成戀人後都沒有忘,みくり還在工作他就乖乖等
現實世界中如果有平匡這種人,我會尊敬他
這部戲一直不斷鼓勵大家破除偏見
我覺得這部戲本身也挑戰了我對愛情劇的偏見
老實說一開始知道這是少女漫畫改編的劇時
我就想八成又是超平凡女主角被超優秀男主角喜歡上的故事
即使編劇是野木亞紀子,我對這部戲的期待也只有“螢之光”的程度
反正近水樓台曖昧一下,最後再告個白就可以了
事實上前七集調性也就是一部有討論到社會議題的愛情劇
但是到了最終回我卻覺得我是在看一部勵志劇
回想一下,其實野木亞紀子過往的作品也有鼓勵消除偏見的地方
“飛翔公關室”裡她說請把他們想像成只是在自衛隊努力工作的普通人
“重版出來”裡她說不管到了幾歲都可以是新人
“逃避可恥但有用”裡更是各種明寫暗示挑戰各種偏見
這是我心中真正的野木三部曲
這三部戲就製作水準來說可以分出高下,但是就劇本來說我評不出來
因為從三部戲裡我都獲得了往前走的勇氣
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