有人是不喜歡陳漢典的嗎?? - 康熙
By Lydia
at 2011-06-11T11:30
at 2011-06-11T11:30
Table of Contents
※ 引述《ChenDotQ (NewB)》之銘言:
: 首先這是一篇半護航文
: 個人拙見,版友對漢典的公評也不全然客觀
: 有人拿漢典和「大學生了沒」的「ken和納豆」相比,其實是不公平的
: 「大學生了沒」其實是三個主持人,由陶子姐掌主線罷了
: 「ken和納豆」則很有發言的空間,反觀漢典只是"助理"罷了,還談不上主持人
: 尤其是康熙那麼強烈的主持風格,來賓要插話都不容易了,何況是助理?
: 而且大家會誤會 "插話"和"主持"的區別
: 康熙的發言是可以開新話題,把節目往下帶 (事實上是有對稿)
: 而漢典的發言,頂多是"出梗"或者是"接包袱",沒辦法影響節目走向
: 你能說他是主持人? 要用評主持人的標準,去批評一個助理? 其實是多餘的
: 有人認為漢典太搶戲,但平心而論,一個節目的固定咖
搶戲分很多種
康熙要丟梗給他就算囉 畢竟來賓也是有不好笑的
好笑難笑總是都會被CUE到
但很多時候是他主動發出聲音/動作 來干擾
舉昨天的例子
郭惠妮休士頓在講話 他在後面當背後靈就算了 還吹氣打斷
這是幹嘛? 讓郭惠妮笑一下然後康熙CUE他遠一點吹
然後就沒了...
莫名其妙的打斷 莫名其妙的結束
就像電視突然斷訊30秒然後又回復正常 完全就是莫名其妙
類似這種情況 不是對漢典有愛的話都會不爽
: 通告費沒領比較多,一樣的錄影時間,別人用坐的,他用站著
: 說話的時間大部份來看,其實也沒來賓多,鏡頭主要還是cue主持人和來賓身上
: 要說他太搶鏡頭,其實是對他的厭惡無限上綱了吧...
: 沒功勞至少也有苦勞 ,總不能鳥盡弓藏。
: 換個立場。
: 版友較客觀的論述則是漢典沒啥新梗、觀眾容易膩,說話很乾,這都是事實
: 對 "表演者",我們的確很容易膩,但對主持人就不會了
: 可惜漢典是前者......
: 而且他在康熙的定位,就是助理
: KEN和納豆在大學生的定位,就是主持人
: 反襯之下,我們可以想象,被設定成助理,卻要他幹主持人的事情
: 其實這有多難,先天被很多條件限制住,所以他乖乖坐板蹬,偶爾CUE一下
: 其實很合理 (但膩不膩就交由看倌來決定了)
: 其實我也不解漢典為何守著康熙不放
: 是B2的問題呢? 還是閒閒沒事加減錄康熙 ?
: 他上康熙為自已的加分效果其實已經遞減了
: 可惜他不會來看PTT 。
--
David : Are strikeouts important?
Felix : I don’t try to strike out people, but sometimes they swing and miss.
--
: 首先這是一篇半護航文
: 個人拙見,版友對漢典的公評也不全然客觀
: 有人拿漢典和「大學生了沒」的「ken和納豆」相比,其實是不公平的
: 「大學生了沒」其實是三個主持人,由陶子姐掌主線罷了
: 「ken和納豆」則很有發言的空間,反觀漢典只是"助理"罷了,還談不上主持人
: 尤其是康熙那麼強烈的主持風格,來賓要插話都不容易了,何況是助理?
: 而且大家會誤會 "插話"和"主持"的區別
: 康熙的發言是可以開新話題,把節目往下帶 (事實上是有對稿)
: 而漢典的發言,頂多是"出梗"或者是"接包袱",沒辦法影響節目走向
: 你能說他是主持人? 要用評主持人的標準,去批評一個助理? 其實是多餘的
: 有人認為漢典太搶戲,但平心而論,一個節目的固定咖
搶戲分很多種
康熙要丟梗給他就算囉 畢竟來賓也是有不好笑的
好笑難笑總是都會被CUE到
但很多時候是他主動發出聲音/動作 來干擾
舉昨天的例子
郭惠妮休士頓在講話 他在後面當背後靈就算了 還吹氣打斷
這是幹嘛? 讓郭惠妮笑一下然後康熙CUE他遠一點吹
然後就沒了...
莫名其妙的打斷 莫名其妙的結束
就像電視突然斷訊30秒然後又回復正常 完全就是莫名其妙
類似這種情況 不是對漢典有愛的話都會不爽
: 通告費沒領比較多,一樣的錄影時間,別人用坐的,他用站著
: 說話的時間大部份來看,其實也沒來賓多,鏡頭主要還是cue主持人和來賓身上
: 要說他太搶鏡頭,其實是對他的厭惡無限上綱了吧...
: 沒功勞至少也有苦勞 ,總不能鳥盡弓藏。
: 換個立場。
: 版友較客觀的論述則是漢典沒啥新梗、觀眾容易膩,說話很乾,這都是事實
: 對 "表演者",我們的確很容易膩,但對主持人就不會了
: 可惜漢典是前者......
: 而且他在康熙的定位,就是助理
: KEN和納豆在大學生的定位,就是主持人
: 反襯之下,我們可以想象,被設定成助理,卻要他幹主持人的事情
: 其實這有多難,先天被很多條件限制住,所以他乖乖坐板蹬,偶爾CUE一下
: 其實很合理 (但膩不膩就交由看倌來決定了)
: 其實我也不解漢典為何守著康熙不放
: 是B2的問題呢? 還是閒閒沒事加減錄康熙 ?
: 他上康熙為自已的加分效果其實已經遞減了
: 可惜他不會來看PTT 。
--
David : Are strikeouts important?
Felix : I don’t try to strike out people, but sometimes they swing and miss.
--
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