有夠糟的灌籃高手 - 電影

By Kyle
at 2023-01-26T23:03
at 2023-01-26T23:03
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老粉期待的點不外乎就是將漫畫原版重現
我第一次看日配版看完的想法跟你差不多 覺得騷不到癢處
但靜下心來想想
這是一個20多年前的運動漫畫
我如果是井上 我到底是要把漫畫照搬 讓老粉爽一波就好
還是要拍一個 讓跟著老粉進場的新觀眾也能理解的故事
很明顯井上選擇了後者
會選宮城當主角 也是因為在原作中他的空白最多 最好發揮
其他人的故事在原作都講的差不多了
說句難聽點 在原著裡 連澤北的故事都比宮城還多咧
井上這樣做到底有沒有達到他想要的效果
我看到日配版的時候還沒什麼感覺 因為全場都很安靜
二刷台配版的時候 看到一些老人小孩觀眾的反應
我覺得他成功了
宮城與其說是主角 不如說是整場比賽的引線人
透過說他的故事 讓觀眾簡單的了解整部電影的主軸就是
"神奈川的小球隊挑戰全國第一"
他的故事也是非常傳統的少年漫畫套路
非常好理解 要說狗血也行 就是一個與自己的童年和解的故事
這種故事就是大家都能懂 少數有類似經歷的人可能有點共鳴
如果井上真的要把電影拍成"宮城傳" 我相信應該還有其他更燒腦煽情的路線可以選擇
所以故事的主軸還是在湘北對山王
這次比賽的呈現模式也比較接近真實比賽
在真的賽場上不會像漫畫那般話一堆 角色的情緒或內心戲一堆
畢竟籃球賽就是快節奏的比賽
湘北五人的背景故事 太長了 不是這場比賽的重點 篇幅也塞不下
所以只能透過這些人在比賽中做了什麼事情 來讓新觀眾了解角色的個性
整部電影看下來 就連新觀眾也都能大概了解湘北其他四人大致的性格
以一個原作改編的劇場版來說 我覺得已經相當成功了
真的要硬說有什麼美中不足的 大概就是片段銜接的節奏可以再好一點
有幾段在比的正刺激的時候就突然切到宮城的故事 會讓人覺得突兀
再來就是最後那個"彩蛋畫面"會讓人有"我到底看了三小"的感覺
如果電影的目標是"賣老粉情懷" 我只能說他只做到了70分
但如果是要讓大家都看懂並拓展新粉 這一點應該做到了90分以上
強烈建議有打算二刷可以選台配 雖然跟日配比起來觀影環境可能吵一點
但觀眾的反應不會騙人的 看到櫻木的零秒出手還有小朋友在喊"進"進"進"
就知道這部電影已經做的很好了
※ 引述《toyhsu (嚕嚕米)》之銘言:
: 雷文防雷資訊頁
: ~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 雷文 主文分隔線 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: 這部我給70分 有50分在情懷上 與其說是灌高 不如說是宮城良田傳
: 就好像你看哈利波特最後一集 要正面對決佛地魔 然後一半時間在講奈威隆巴頓一樣
: 看得出井上對宮城有過多的愛 就好像宮城是他自己的分身
: https://kknews.cc/zh-tw/comic/qr69mko.html 這邊有提到
: 把赤木 三井 櫻木 流川的戲份完全壓縮掉 最後還自肥宮城到美國對決澤北
: 講句難聽的 宮城是什麼咖 神奈川組兩隊先發 他都選不上的角色 被公認湘北最弱先發
: 被包夾就掉球 下半場前2分鐘輸10分全都是他被包夾然後掉球沒的
: 然後可以去美國高中打球???????流川表示 牧表示
: 赤木 神奈川一隊 第一中鋒 從初中到高中願望都是打倒山王 全國制霸
: 流川 原型MJ 神奈川最佳新人 打敗澤北的人 全日本5大新人之一 全日本Jr代表
: 櫻木 主角 體力怪物 山王一戰的救世主 籃板王
: 三井 炎之男 山王戰完全靠他的三分球
: 宮城 山王戰貢獻最少 球掉最多 一直打鐵 命中率可能比櫻木還低
: 然後電影版居然拿宮城當主角 一半都在講宮城的故事 WTF 比親兒子還親
: 然後是最讓人氣憤的部份 把一堆鋪陳全部都刪掉了
: 賽前湘北眾人緊張 安西教練一個個去排解
: 第一場的半場休息時間 櫻木威嚇的失敗罰球線灌籃
: 河田美紀男第一次出場 然後被櫻木打到信心全失
: 為什麼櫻木一直要在那個位置要球 因為那是他命中率最高的位置
: 魚住的切蘿蔔等等
: 導致整部電影節奏很快 但很多回憶點完全沒有鋪陳到 就匆匆帶過
: 還不斷穿插宮城的回憶故事 把整個節奏又斷掉了
: 美紀男突然就在場上 為什麼澤北看到櫻木嚇到 被流川抄到球等等 都變的非常突兀
: 澤北加的那段在神社祈福 也是沒什麼意義
: 雖然整部用了不少很新穎的表現手法 但對於一部賣情懷的電影 其實沒多大加分
: 頂多是整個比賽那段時間節奏很快 很像真正在看一場球賽
: 但也被中途插入的回憶 弄的很支離破碎
: 然後最後的彩蛋 根本是搞笑 才2秒 還不如不要給
: 井上有沒有想過這部叫Slam Dunk不是叫宮城良田 宮城他全家跟故事沒什麼關係
: 給人滿滿的期待 然後又把回憶跟情懷破壞的一乾二淨
: 拜託井上以後可以放過Slam Dunk嗎 不要再出電影
: YT上用漫畫編排的山王戰 我可以看N遍 每次都感動不已 但這部 一點感覺都沒有
--
我第一次看日配版看完的想法跟你差不多 覺得騷不到癢處
但靜下心來想想
這是一個20多年前的運動漫畫
我如果是井上 我到底是要把漫畫照搬 讓老粉爽一波就好
還是要拍一個 讓跟著老粉進場的新觀眾也能理解的故事
很明顯井上選擇了後者
會選宮城當主角 也是因為在原作中他的空白最多 最好發揮
其他人的故事在原作都講的差不多了
說句難聽點 在原著裡 連澤北的故事都比宮城還多咧
井上這樣做到底有沒有達到他想要的效果
我看到日配版的時候還沒什麼感覺 因為全場都很安靜
二刷台配版的時候 看到一些老人小孩觀眾的反應
我覺得他成功了
宮城與其說是主角 不如說是整場比賽的引線人
透過說他的故事 讓觀眾簡單的了解整部電影的主軸就是
"神奈川的小球隊挑戰全國第一"
他的故事也是非常傳統的少年漫畫套路
非常好理解 要說狗血也行 就是一個與自己的童年和解的故事
這種故事就是大家都能懂 少數有類似經歷的人可能有點共鳴
如果井上真的要把電影拍成"宮城傳" 我相信應該還有其他更燒腦煽情的路線可以選擇
所以故事的主軸還是在湘北對山王
這次比賽的呈現模式也比較接近真實比賽
在真的賽場上不會像漫畫那般話一堆 角色的情緒或內心戲一堆
畢竟籃球賽就是快節奏的比賽
湘北五人的背景故事 太長了 不是這場比賽的重點 篇幅也塞不下
所以只能透過這些人在比賽中做了什麼事情 來讓新觀眾了解角色的個性
整部電影看下來 就連新觀眾也都能大概了解湘北其他四人大致的性格
以一個原作改編的劇場版來說 我覺得已經相當成功了
真的要硬說有什麼美中不足的 大概就是片段銜接的節奏可以再好一點
有幾段在比的正刺激的時候就突然切到宮城的故事 會讓人覺得突兀
再來就是最後那個"彩蛋畫面"會讓人有"我到底看了三小"的感覺
如果電影的目標是"賣老粉情懷" 我只能說他只做到了70分
但如果是要讓大家都看懂並拓展新粉 這一點應該做到了90分以上
強烈建議有打算二刷可以選台配 雖然跟日配比起來觀影環境可能吵一點
但觀眾的反應不會騙人的 看到櫻木的零秒出手還有小朋友在喊"進"進"進"
就知道這部電影已經做的很好了
※ 引述《toyhsu (嚕嚕米)》之銘言:
: 雷文防雷資訊頁
: ~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~*-*~
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 雷文 主文分隔線 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: 這部我給70分 有50分在情懷上 與其說是灌高 不如說是宮城良田傳
: 就好像你看哈利波特最後一集 要正面對決佛地魔 然後一半時間在講奈威隆巴頓一樣
: 看得出井上對宮城有過多的愛 就好像宮城是他自己的分身
: https://kknews.cc/zh-tw/comic/qr69mko.html 這邊有提到
: 把赤木 三井 櫻木 流川的戲份完全壓縮掉 最後還自肥宮城到美國對決澤北
: 講句難聽的 宮城是什麼咖 神奈川組兩隊先發 他都選不上的角色 被公認湘北最弱先發
: 被包夾就掉球 下半場前2分鐘輸10分全都是他被包夾然後掉球沒的
: 然後可以去美國高中打球???????流川表示 牧表示
: 赤木 神奈川一隊 第一中鋒 從初中到高中願望都是打倒山王 全國制霸
: 流川 原型MJ 神奈川最佳新人 打敗澤北的人 全日本5大新人之一 全日本Jr代表
: 櫻木 主角 體力怪物 山王一戰的救世主 籃板王
: 三井 炎之男 山王戰完全靠他的三分球
: 宮城 山王戰貢獻最少 球掉最多 一直打鐵 命中率可能比櫻木還低
: 然後電影版居然拿宮城當主角 一半都在講宮城的故事 WTF 比親兒子還親
: 然後是最讓人氣憤的部份 把一堆鋪陳全部都刪掉了
: 賽前湘北眾人緊張 安西教練一個個去排解
: 第一場的半場休息時間 櫻木威嚇的失敗罰球線灌籃
: 河田美紀男第一次出場 然後被櫻木打到信心全失
: 為什麼櫻木一直要在那個位置要球 因為那是他命中率最高的位置
: 魚住的切蘿蔔等等
: 導致整部電影節奏很快 但很多回憶點完全沒有鋪陳到 就匆匆帶過
: 還不斷穿插宮城的回憶故事 把整個節奏又斷掉了
: 美紀男突然就在場上 為什麼澤北看到櫻木嚇到 被流川抄到球等等 都變的非常突兀
: 澤北加的那段在神社祈福 也是沒什麼意義
: 雖然整部用了不少很新穎的表現手法 但對於一部賣情懷的電影 其實沒多大加分
: 頂多是整個比賽那段時間節奏很快 很像真正在看一場球賽
: 但也被中途插入的回憶 弄的很支離破碎
: 然後最後的彩蛋 根本是搞笑 才2秒 還不如不要給
: 井上有沒有想過這部叫Slam Dunk不是叫宮城良田 宮城他全家跟故事沒什麼關係
: 給人滿滿的期待 然後又把回憶跟情懷破壞的一乾二淨
: 拜託井上以後可以放過Slam Dunk嗎 不要再出電影
: YT上用漫畫編排的山王戰 我可以看N遍 每次都感動不已 但這部 一點感覺都沒有
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