為啥美國機設輸日本這麼多? - 電影

By Ethan
at 2013-07-13T01:51
at 2013-07-13T01:51
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※ 引述《aa25019459 (檸檬奶茶)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《MikuKing (放開那個初音)》之銘言:
: : 看了環太平洋
: : 機器人真的是醜爆了.....
: : 日本不用說鋼彈,任何SF作品,機設都是一等一
: : 連操作服都設計的超精美
: : 細節、細項、細膩都做很足
: : 為啥米國就是辦不到阿.....
: : 到底為什麼美國機設會輸日本好幾個馬身?
: : 根本不是同一個層次的阿囧
: http://youtu.be/amgChYCs8f8
: http://ppt.cc/ZGiS
: 看完有問題再問
: 等日本的機器人拿來拍真人電影再來比好嗎?
看完了
順便分享導演的一段話
http://screenrant.com/guillermo-del-toro-pacific-rim-japan-anime/
“I felt there was a chance to do something fresh, something new that at the
same time was conscious of the heritage, but not a pastiche or an homage or a
greatest hits of everything. One of the first things I did is make it a point
to not check any old movies or any other references. Like start from scratch.
”
簡單來說 兩段影片都在強調原創性(original)
想要呈現出一個符合環太平洋這個背景新鮮的世界觀
導演的想法也是要避免讓觀眾看到向舊作品的致敬或是大雜燴式的拼貼
但...
人機神經元結合、雙駕駛員操作機器人、意識融合、不明怪獸生物攻擊都市
插入栓變頭部安裝、使用運輸機運輸機器人的方式
http://ppt.cc/2vzM
許多地方都有EVA的影子
我知道這些東西不完全是EVA原創
看板友的討論也了解更早以前的機器人作品都有類似設定
只是在這部作品裡算是剛好集大成就順便提出來
其實google "pacific rim evangelion" 相關討論也很多
youtube有人討論
Pacific Rim - Awesome Or A Giant Robot Portal Mess?
http://youtu.be/hP1QKydCoB0?t=2m10s
imdb也有人提出
Kind of reminds me of 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1663662/board/flat/216741172?p=1
而Jaeger的命名也不禁讓人聯想到進擊的巨人
所以對於整部作品感受不到什麼新鮮感就是
但打鬥與動作場面倒是挺期待的
我知道EVA跟巨人在這裡的仇恨值很高
不是刻意要提 只是剛好聯想到@@
而我發現有些人似乎對提到EVA很感冒
但不排斥更早作品的聯結 例如導演自己提到過的鐵人28
有點像是去年的飢餓遊戲
提到大逃殺就暴怒 但說是致敬蒼蠅王就ok
一種奇妙的現象
另外討論一點原原po提到但沒什麼人鳥他的
就是操作服的部分
http://wallcapture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Evangelion-Wallpapers-HD.png
以EVA來說 針對各個機種 不同駕駛員的服裝設計也有對應變化
還有那精美的頭飾(?) 十年前的設計今日看來依舊辨識度很高
而環太平洋裡的操作裝置我只看到預告內的部分
不知道針對不同機種有沒有不同的改變或是其他特色?
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: ※ 引述《MikuKing (放開那個初音)》之銘言:
: : 看了環太平洋
: : 機器人真的是醜爆了.....
: : 日本不用說鋼彈,任何SF作品,機設都是一等一
: : 連操作服都設計的超精美
: : 細節、細項、細膩都做很足
: : 為啥米國就是辦不到阿.....
: : 到底為什麼美國機設會輸日本好幾個馬身?
: : 根本不是同一個層次的阿囧
: http://youtu.be/amgChYCs8f8
: 看完有問題再問
: 等日本的機器人拿來拍真人電影再來比好嗎?
看完了
順便分享導演的一段話
http://screenrant.com/guillermo-del-toro-pacific-rim-japan-anime/
“I felt there was a chance to do something fresh, something new that at the
same time was conscious of the heritage, but not a pastiche or an homage or a
greatest hits of everything. One of the first things I did is make it a point
to not check any old movies or any other references. Like start from scratch.
”
簡單來說 兩段影片都在強調原創性(original)
想要呈現出一個符合環太平洋這個背景新鮮的世界觀
導演的想法也是要避免讓觀眾看到向舊作品的致敬或是大雜燴式的拼貼
但...
人機神經元結合、雙駕駛員操作機器人、意識融合、不明怪獸生物攻擊都市
插入栓變頭部安裝、使用運輸機運輸機器人的方式
http://ppt.cc/2vzM
許多地方都有EVA的影子
我知道這些東西不完全是EVA原創
看板友的討論也了解更早以前的機器人作品都有類似設定
只是在這部作品裡算是剛好集大成就順便提出來
其實google "pacific rim evangelion" 相關討論也很多
youtube有人討論
Pacific Rim - Awesome Or A Giant Robot Portal Mess?
http://youtu.be/hP1QKydCoB0?t=2m10s
imdb也有人提出
Kind of reminds me of 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1663662/board/flat/216741172?p=1
而Jaeger的命名也不禁讓人聯想到進擊的巨人
所以對於整部作品感受不到什麼新鮮感就是
但打鬥與動作場面倒是挺期待的
我知道EVA跟巨人在這裡的仇恨值很高
不是刻意要提 只是剛好聯想到@@
而我發現有些人似乎對提到EVA很感冒
但不排斥更早作品的聯結 例如導演自己提到過的鐵人28
有點像是去年的飢餓遊戲
提到大逃殺就暴怒 但說是致敬蒼蠅王就ok
一種奇妙的現象
另外討論一點原原po提到但沒什麼人鳥他的
就是操作服的部分
http://wallcapture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Evangelion-Wallpapers-HD.png

以EVA來說 針對各個機種 不同駕駛員的服裝設計也有對應變化
還有那精美的頭飾(?) 十年前的設計今日看來依舊辨識度很高
而環太平洋裡的操作裝置我只看到預告內的部分
不知道針對不同機種有沒有不同的改變或是其他特色?
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