環太平洋 破格的致敬之作 - 電影

By Regina
at 2013-07-21T01:44
at 2013-07-21T01:44
Table of Contents
雖然不是很喜歡打預防針的行為
但有鑑於平和的討論
還是在文章開頭註明一下
如果你是認為向傳統致敬的作品世界觀設定不須更改讓特色更鮮明
讓劇情更具合理性 請左轉
如果你認為爽片就是要看爽爽 討論劇情是找碴 請左轉
如果你認為本篇文章是抱著錯誤期待進場才覺得不好看 請左轉
因為在看之前已經踩過不少好壞雷了
某些優缺點的看法倒是和預期有些不同
也許有些人會認為發負雷文是找碴
或是看電影看得很痛苦
但個人會提到電影的負雷點大部分是遇到那種
讓人在觀影過程中出戲 或是事後回想起來不順暢的情節
這當中也許有可能是劇情編排疏失 或是觀賞過程有些遺漏
上來討論一下無非也只是想更進一步增進對電影的了解
簡單談一下優缺點
優
本部片基本上到中美俄聯手對決兩隻怪獸前劇情都還不錯
開頭對怪獸與獵人的介紹簡單明瞭 沒想像中冗長
人物的出場與互動也算流暢 負責搞笑的配角們表現雖然有些誇張 但也是可圈可點
不得不提的還有表現S級的蘆田愛菜 期待已久的喘息聲果然沒讓人失望(?)
缺
設定粗糙隨興
恩 我知道 也很多人提過這部電影是向傳統舊作致敬
但懷舊不懷舊跟劇情設定是兩回事
現代機器人動畫也有舊作影子
但其世界觀設定有些就很具有特色
怪獸弱點
EVA裡很清楚告訴你使徒弱點是在核心
PR裡則針對怪獸的量級與特性有詳細的介紹
但弱點呢? 怎樣怪獸會死怎樣不會死?
抑或是怪獸沒有明確弱點?
這電影似乎沒講清楚
超大型機器人跟怪獸互毆畫面是很好看啦
但整個就是毫無章法
我知道這是導演想呈現的畫面
但即使是想畫巨人摔角的諫山創
也是會針對巨人的弱點做詳細的描述
因為這樣的事前設定
才會使人類的防衛行動有個明確的目的與系統
而不是在那邊亂敲亂打
軍事策略
照劇情順序來講好了
築高牆
我不知道是要怎樣的材質與設計才能阻擋電影裡的怪獸
不可能是灌水泥吧? 當然也不可能在牆壁裡塞XX
電影裡拍到的部分也只有主角在工地架內部鋼筋
整個築牆計畫看不出所以然 只是為了凸顯軍方的愚蠢就打醬油帶過
而且說真的就算建立成功好了 然後呢?
把一群怪獸擋在牆外 人類生活圈縮小至陸地
那還真的變成家畜的安寧 虛偽的繁榮
機器人武裝與戰術
這讓我想到第一次看EVA時感到有點失望
原本以為很帥氣的機器人居然要插電源 也不是近距離搏鬥
而是拿著機槍在遠方掃射 整個感覺就很弱
但現在看到環太平洋與板友討論才發覺這樣設定的寫實與合理性
一開始會戰使用遠程兵器 距離拉近後再使用高科技刀械或裝備武器
而PR裡遇到怪獸就是衝過去揮拳
然後偶爾用一下胸前飛彈跟手上等離子砲
有人說揮拳作戰是為了避免酸液噴灑
但 怪獸誕生是在海上
如果能用有效率的攻擊方式先在海上把怪獸解決
人類受到的損失應該遠比等怪獸跑來陸地後跟機器人打拳擊來得低吧
更何況在城市內吉普賽危機狂用等離子砲轟怪獸腹部時也濺了一堆酸液啊
屠獸劍
這很多人吐槽過了
大絕招這種東西通常伴隨著某種代價
像初號機暴走很威 但無法操控 後遺症很可怕
不會有人每天希望初號機暴走
但屠獸劍... 你要說不使用的原因是怕酸液濺出
但卻在都市內跟怪獸玩摔角破壞大樓 那我也認了
另外提一下真子在拔劍時吶喊 "我要為父母報仇!"
有種B級片的感覺
真子的演技
痾 根據資料這女演員應該是演技派的
但電影裡呈現的就是一副矬樣
不知道這是導演要求還是?
而且劇中她頻頻像個小女生窺視男主角的樣子更毫無來由
如果當初是男主角拯救妳那還有淵源
可是拯救妳的是英勇黑人元帥耶
結果整部片沒正眼看過他幾次
遇到白人帥哥就哈得莫名其妙
存心害死人的駕駛艙設計
看前段還以為這駕駛艙沒逃生設計
類比操作裝置遇到危機時跟刑具一樣綁死人
可憐的俄羅斯美女就這樣淹死了
好歹EVA的插入栓都有彈出功能
可後來導演就展示了其實逃生設計是有的
但只能用來救男女主角
龍套角隨便拍拍等領便當
我發覺好萊屋電影好像愈來愈有這種趨勢
反正某些角色只是串場不重要 或最後會死
那乾脆就隨便拍拍 其他時間就拿去拍主要角色聊天談情打架這樣
像是:飢餓遊戲
所以俄羅斯夫妻出來走個台步致意一下
中國三兄弟穿紅衣服在打籃球 WTF?!
怎不乾脆安排他們去下象棋算了
然後男女主角測試連結時還稍微看得到他們
接著開戰時就象徵性的在機艙內講俄語跟中文做操作
最後掙扎一下領便當去了
而衝鋒號的駕駛員? 喔 因為他們有戲份
所以還會跟主角一起吃飯
其他明明要一起合作的駕駛員因為要領便當了所以就乾脆在旁邊休息
也不用討論戰術幹嘛的
不禁懷念起重裝任務裡西恩賓速領便當的橋段
雖然時間短暫 但這角色仍令人印象深刻
看似新穎後段虛設的神經元浮動連結
這東西前面介紹的煞有其事
連結的對象不外乎兄弟、父子、夫妻、多胞胎
丟出來的設定讓你覺得這連結的兩人心靈需要極高的同步性
結果兩個素味平生還不同國籍的男女連結一次就OK
黑人元帥跟父控駕駛員口頭解釋一下也直接結合 導演也懶得說明
另外看預告還以為連結當下意識會共享
結果好像也只有分享過去記憶?
駕駛過程雙方還是都靠口語溝通互動
結果唯一稍微比較具有原創性的設定到後來也只是變成單純的雙人駕駛
搞笑的漢尼拔周
一個精打細算的黑市商人
當他知道牛頓做過浮動連結後馬上當機立斷去避難
結果之後跳出來搞笑被吃 我是在看大蟒蛇之類的B級片嗎?
最後片尾出來講那一句話更完全令人笑不出來
是嫌這部作品還不夠low嗎?
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但有鑑於平和的討論
還是在文章開頭註明一下
如果你是認為向傳統致敬的作品世界觀設定不須更改讓特色更鮮明
讓劇情更具合理性 請左轉
如果你認為爽片就是要看爽爽 討論劇情是找碴 請左轉
如果你認為本篇文章是抱著錯誤期待進場才覺得不好看 請左轉
因為在看之前已經踩過不少好壞雷了
某些優缺點的看法倒是和預期有些不同
也許有些人會認為發負雷文是找碴
或是看電影看得很痛苦
但個人會提到電影的負雷點大部分是遇到那種
讓人在觀影過程中出戲 或是事後回想起來不順暢的情節
這當中也許有可能是劇情編排疏失 或是觀賞過程有些遺漏
上來討論一下無非也只是想更進一步增進對電影的了解
簡單談一下優缺點
優
本部片基本上到中美俄聯手對決兩隻怪獸前劇情都還不錯
開頭對怪獸與獵人的介紹簡單明瞭 沒想像中冗長
人物的出場與互動也算流暢 負責搞笑的配角們表現雖然有些誇張 但也是可圈可點
不得不提的還有表現S級的蘆田愛菜 期待已久的喘息聲果然沒讓人失望(?)
缺
設定粗糙隨興
恩 我知道 也很多人提過這部電影是向傳統舊作致敬
但懷舊不懷舊跟劇情設定是兩回事
現代機器人動畫也有舊作影子
但其世界觀設定有些就很具有特色
怪獸弱點
EVA裡很清楚告訴你使徒弱點是在核心
PR裡則針對怪獸的量級與特性有詳細的介紹
但弱點呢? 怎樣怪獸會死怎樣不會死?
抑或是怪獸沒有明確弱點?
這電影似乎沒講清楚
超大型機器人跟怪獸互毆畫面是很好看啦
但整個就是毫無章法
我知道這是導演想呈現的畫面
但即使是想畫巨人摔角的諫山創
也是會針對巨人的弱點做詳細的描述
因為這樣的事前設定
才會使人類的防衛行動有個明確的目的與系統
而不是在那邊亂敲亂打
軍事策略
照劇情順序來講好了
築高牆
我不知道是要怎樣的材質與設計才能阻擋電影裡的怪獸
不可能是灌水泥吧? 當然也不可能在牆壁裡塞XX
電影裡拍到的部分也只有主角在工地架內部鋼筋
整個築牆計畫看不出所以然 只是為了凸顯軍方的愚蠢就打醬油帶過
而且說真的就算建立成功好了 然後呢?
把一群怪獸擋在牆外 人類生活圈縮小至陸地
那還真的變成家畜的安寧 虛偽的繁榮
機器人武裝與戰術
這讓我想到第一次看EVA時感到有點失望
原本以為很帥氣的機器人居然要插電源 也不是近距離搏鬥
而是拿著機槍在遠方掃射 整個感覺就很弱
但現在看到環太平洋與板友討論才發覺這樣設定的寫實與合理性
一開始會戰使用遠程兵器 距離拉近後再使用高科技刀械或裝備武器
而PR裡遇到怪獸就是衝過去揮拳
然後偶爾用一下胸前飛彈跟手上等離子砲
有人說揮拳作戰是為了避免酸液噴灑
但 怪獸誕生是在海上
如果能用有效率的攻擊方式先在海上把怪獸解決
人類受到的損失應該遠比等怪獸跑來陸地後跟機器人打拳擊來得低吧
更何況在城市內吉普賽危機狂用等離子砲轟怪獸腹部時也濺了一堆酸液啊
屠獸劍
這很多人吐槽過了
大絕招這種東西通常伴隨著某種代價
像初號機暴走很威 但無法操控 後遺症很可怕
不會有人每天希望初號機暴走
但屠獸劍... 你要說不使用的原因是怕酸液濺出
但卻在都市內跟怪獸玩摔角破壞大樓 那我也認了
另外提一下真子在拔劍時吶喊 "我要為父母報仇!"
有種B級片的感覺
真子的演技
痾 根據資料這女演員應該是演技派的
但電影裡呈現的就是一副矬樣
不知道這是導演要求還是?
而且劇中她頻頻像個小女生窺視男主角的樣子更毫無來由
如果當初是男主角拯救妳那還有淵源
可是拯救妳的是英勇黑人元帥耶
結果整部片沒正眼看過他幾次
遇到白人帥哥就哈得莫名其妙
存心害死人的駕駛艙設計
看前段還以為這駕駛艙沒逃生設計
類比操作裝置遇到危機時跟刑具一樣綁死人
可憐的俄羅斯美女就這樣淹死了
好歹EVA的插入栓都有彈出功能
可後來導演就展示了其實逃生設計是有的
但只能用來救男女主角
龍套角隨便拍拍等領便當
我發覺好萊屋電影好像愈來愈有這種趨勢
反正某些角色只是串場不重要 或最後會死
那乾脆就隨便拍拍 其他時間就拿去拍主要角色聊天談情打架這樣
像是:飢餓遊戲
所以俄羅斯夫妻出來走個台步致意一下
中國三兄弟穿紅衣服在打籃球 WTF?!
怎不乾脆安排他們去下象棋算了
然後男女主角測試連結時還稍微看得到他們
接著開戰時就象徵性的在機艙內講俄語跟中文做操作
最後掙扎一下領便當去了
而衝鋒號的駕駛員? 喔 因為他們有戲份
所以還會跟主角一起吃飯
其他明明要一起合作的駕駛員因為要領便當了所以就乾脆在旁邊休息
也不用討論戰術幹嘛的
不禁懷念起重裝任務裡西恩賓速領便當的橋段
雖然時間短暫 但這角色仍令人印象深刻
看似新穎後段虛設的神經元浮動連結
這東西前面介紹的煞有其事
連結的對象不外乎兄弟、父子、夫妻、多胞胎
丟出來的設定讓你覺得這連結的兩人心靈需要極高的同步性
結果兩個素味平生還不同國籍的男女連結一次就OK
黑人元帥跟父控駕駛員口頭解釋一下也直接結合 導演也懶得說明
另外看預告還以為連結當下意識會共享
結果好像也只有分享過去記憶?
駕駛過程雙方還是都靠口語溝通互動
結果唯一稍微比較具有原創性的設定到後來也只是變成單純的雙人駕駛
搞笑的漢尼拔周
一個精打細算的黑市商人
當他知道牛頓做過浮動連結後馬上當機立斷去避難
結果之後跳出來搞笑被吃 我是在看大蟒蛇之類的B級片嗎?
最後片尾出來講那一句話更完全令人笑不出來
是嫌這部作品還不夠low嗎?
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