蝙蝠俠+超人 為何打不過漫威? - 電影

By Heather
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※ 引述《t13thbc (the 13th black cat)》之銘言:
: 講那麼多 其實就是這部電影拍的不如預期嘛
: 如果拍成功了 還會有人嘴華納的策略嗎
: 早就歌功頌德讚嘆DC感恩華納 甚至開始期待正義聯盟了
: 那這部片哪裡不如預期
: 個人認為 可以從角色形象 劇情凌亂 轉折點不足這三個面向討論
: 要知道 DC的漫畫英雄 不論正派反派大家幾乎是耳熟能詳
: 對他們也有個既定的印象了 這個既定印象不是不能顛覆 而是不能太爛
既定印象不是不能顛覆 而是不能太爛+1
其實電影改編作品多少都會修改人物的形象,就算是評價很高的諾蘭三部曲
在資深漫畫迷眼中的角色形象也與他們所知的不同,不過由於我是諾蘭電影
入坑,所以這部分沒辦法詳細談,總之改形象不是不行,只是要改得能讓人
接受&有魅力。
BvS因為篇幅問題,已經不太容易能讓觀眾理解"這角色為何是這種性格"
然後在魅力上……我個人是覺得電影版的新人物性格實在不太有魅力,或
者說更嚴重一點,個人覺得超蝙兩人有魅力的地方被改掉了,然後新加入
的性格也不怎麼迷人。
首先就蝙蝠俠而言,他的魅力在於在過人的自制力(即使處在高譚這種地
獄之都,仍能守住自己的道德堅持)、聰明、花花公子&蝙蝠俠&布魯斯
本人的三張臉(某種意義上的反差萌)
而在BvS中,看不出蝙蝠俠有堅強的自制力(蝙蝠俠的自制力最明顯的表現
,在於他就算被逼到極限也不殺人,但電影中蝙蝠俠就算面對不是非常窮
兇惡極的人,機槍也開下去了,更別提之後想殺超人)、不怎麼聰明(被
雷克斯從頭騙到尾,側錄裝置還被公主摸走),三張臉部分由於涉及演員
表現,然後本人是貝爾少爺腦殘粉,無法公正判斷所以在此不論。
(不過劇中不管是蝙蝠俠還是布魯斯,出場時都處於憤怒狀態,所以就算
演員想表現也很難)
然後新增的部分是這版的蝙蝠俠作風更為狠辣,除了會拿機槍射人,還會
闖進研究設施中打傷一票人搶氪石(老實說如果這段是在蝙蝠俠知道雷克
斯陷害超人後還好,但問題是他搶的時候顯然不知道,導致這段給我這個
觀眾的觀感就是:這版的蝙蝠俠會為了搶武器,攻擊無辜研究設施&研究
員的真˙強盜),綜合上一段的描述,這版的蝙蝠俠就是一個偏激&不聽
人說話&過度使用暴力的中年富豪,缺點很多優點很少,會讓某些漫迷或
大眾觀眾無法接受很正常。
然後超人部分,在大眾普遍印象中的版本,當他是超人時是個擁有非凡力
量但不以力壓人的紳士(對方講不聽時除外),克拉克時則是憨厚、愛家
、常常需要加班的小記者。
而在BvS中,超人第一次出場就直接把威脅露易絲的軍閥頭子拉去撞牆(頭
子大概全身骨折了),完完全全以力壓人,之後卸妝後(?)則是捧著花束
和露易絲一起洗鴛鴦浴(然後沒拖鞋讓敝人相當在意),拖稿拖到總編要去
他的雲端挖稿子,不認識布魯斯&第一次和布魯斯見面就問非常挑釁的問題
,最後聽得見女友尖叫但沒發現老媽被綁架(這段雖然能想出理由合理化超
人為何露聽老媽,但在超人於整個故事中與女友的互動>>老媽下,很容易
讓觀眾第一時間覺得超人重色輕媽)
綜合以上,BvS的超人是個會直接動手不太紳士的人,而克拉克則是個不太專
業(不認得布魯斯,這大概和在台灣當記者卻不認得郭董的臉差不多)也不
怎麼敬業的記者,導演拿掉了超人的紳士&克拉克的憨厚認真,卻沒填上新
的優點,這版的超人會有爭議也就不意外了。
(這邊再多碎碎念一下,個人覺得克拉克的身分對於超人是挺重要的,因為
這會影響觀眾的帶入感,如果超人就只是一個超強的外星人,不管他紳士還
是暴力,對觀眾來說都是另外一個星球&與自己沒啥關係的人,但是因為他
還是克拉克˙肯特,一個被截稿日追趕,住在小小公寓&和養母感情很好的
堪薩斯農場青年,觀眾才會覺得這個角色是走在自己身邊,而不是飄在空中
無須擔心的人物。我很不喜歡導演將這部分改掉,情感上不喜歡,技術上也
覺得這個改動不妥)
不過上面雖然碎念那麼多,等正義聯盟上映時我還是會去看就是了(但如果
正義聯盟還是這種狀態,我之後就會避開查克導的DC系列了)
--
: 講那麼多 其實就是這部電影拍的不如預期嘛
: 如果拍成功了 還會有人嘴華納的策略嗎
: 早就歌功頌德讚嘆DC感恩華納 甚至開始期待正義聯盟了
: 那這部片哪裡不如預期
: 個人認為 可以從角色形象 劇情凌亂 轉折點不足這三個面向討論
: 要知道 DC的漫畫英雄 不論正派反派大家幾乎是耳熟能詳
: 對他們也有個既定的印象了 這個既定印象不是不能顛覆 而是不能太爛
既定印象不是不能顛覆 而是不能太爛+1
其實電影改編作品多少都會修改人物的形象,就算是評價很高的諾蘭三部曲
在資深漫畫迷眼中的角色形象也與他們所知的不同,不過由於我是諾蘭電影
入坑,所以這部分沒辦法詳細談,總之改形象不是不行,只是要改得能讓人
接受&有魅力。
BvS因為篇幅問題,已經不太容易能讓觀眾理解"這角色為何是這種性格"
然後在魅力上……我個人是覺得電影版的新人物性格實在不太有魅力,或
者說更嚴重一點,個人覺得超蝙兩人有魅力的地方被改掉了,然後新加入
的性格也不怎麼迷人。
首先就蝙蝠俠而言,他的魅力在於在過人的自制力(即使處在高譚這種地
獄之都,仍能守住自己的道德堅持)、聰明、花花公子&蝙蝠俠&布魯斯
本人的三張臉(某種意義上的反差萌)
而在BvS中,看不出蝙蝠俠有堅強的自制力(蝙蝠俠的自制力最明顯的表現
,在於他就算被逼到極限也不殺人,但電影中蝙蝠俠就算面對不是非常窮
兇惡極的人,機槍也開下去了,更別提之後想殺超人)、不怎麼聰明(被
雷克斯從頭騙到尾,側錄裝置還被公主摸走),三張臉部分由於涉及演員
表現,然後本人是貝爾少爺腦殘粉,無法公正判斷所以在此不論。
(不過劇中不管是蝙蝠俠還是布魯斯,出場時都處於憤怒狀態,所以就算
演員想表現也很難)
然後新增的部分是這版的蝙蝠俠作風更為狠辣,除了會拿機槍射人,還會
闖進研究設施中打傷一票人搶氪石(老實說如果這段是在蝙蝠俠知道雷克
斯陷害超人後還好,但問題是他搶的時候顯然不知道,導致這段給我這個
觀眾的觀感就是:這版的蝙蝠俠會為了搶武器,攻擊無辜研究設施&研究
員的真˙強盜),綜合上一段的描述,這版的蝙蝠俠就是一個偏激&不聽
人說話&過度使用暴力的中年富豪,缺點很多優點很少,會讓某些漫迷或
大眾觀眾無法接受很正常。
然後超人部分,在大眾普遍印象中的版本,當他是超人時是個擁有非凡力
量但不以力壓人的紳士(對方講不聽時除外),克拉克時則是憨厚、愛家
、常常需要加班的小記者。
而在BvS中,超人第一次出場就直接把威脅露易絲的軍閥頭子拉去撞牆(頭
子大概全身骨折了),完完全全以力壓人,之後卸妝後(?)則是捧著花束
和露易絲一起洗鴛鴦浴(然後沒拖鞋讓敝人相當在意),拖稿拖到總編要去
他的雲端挖稿子,不認識布魯斯&第一次和布魯斯見面就問非常挑釁的問題
,最後聽得見女友尖叫但沒發現老媽被綁架(這段雖然能想出理由合理化超
人為何露聽老媽,但在超人於整個故事中與女友的互動>>老媽下,很容易
讓觀眾第一時間覺得超人重色輕媽)
綜合以上,BvS的超人是個會直接動手不太紳士的人,而克拉克則是個不太專
業(不認得布魯斯,這大概和在台灣當記者卻不認得郭董的臉差不多)也不
怎麼敬業的記者,導演拿掉了超人的紳士&克拉克的憨厚認真,卻沒填上新
的優點,這版的超人會有爭議也就不意外了。
(這邊再多碎碎念一下,個人覺得克拉克的身分對於超人是挺重要的,因為
這會影響觀眾的帶入感,如果超人就只是一個超強的外星人,不管他紳士還
是暴力,對觀眾來說都是另外一個星球&與自己沒啥關係的人,但是因為他
還是克拉克˙肯特,一個被截稿日追趕,住在小小公寓&和養母感情很好的
堪薩斯農場青年,觀眾才會覺得這個角色是走在自己身邊,而不是飄在空中
無須擔心的人物。我很不喜歡導演將這部分改掉,情感上不喜歡,技術上也
覺得這個改動不妥)
不過上面雖然碎念那麼多,等正義聯盟上映時我還是會去看就是了(但如果
正義聯盟還是這種狀態,我之後就會避開查克導的DC系列了)
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