被誤解的美國隊長3:關於轉型正義的思考 - 電影

By Victoria
at 2016-04-28T19:42
at 2016-04-28T19:42
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看了看板上的討論,似乎很多人都誤解了電影的主題。
雖然電影副標題是內戰,裡面也討論到了註冊法案。
但是這部電影想要討論的主題和漫畫想要討論的完全不同。
漫畫主題是「政府可不可以為了公共利益限制個人權力?」
電影的主題卻是「我們需不需要轉型正義?又該由誰來做?怎麼做?」
什麼意思?為什麼是轉型正義?因為,內戰雙方真正的矛盾,從來就不是法案。
真正激化鋼鐵人和美國隊長矛盾的,不是法案,而是一個人:寒冬士兵巴奇。
冬兵是個殺手,但他是個被洗腦的殺手,我們要不要追究他的責任?
冬兵是個虛構的角色,但它象徵的,就是漢娜鄂蘭在邪惡的平庸性談到的納粹士兵。
他們服從上級的指令殺害了無數猶太人,他們要不要為他們的行為負起責任?
隊長認為不用,他隱瞞冬兵殺害鋼鐵人父母的真相,只因為害怕他知道真相之後更難過。
這是不是像極了那些反對追究白色恐怖,認為這只會造成二次傷害的論調呢?
在台灣,主流的聲音是要追究責任,可是大家有沒有想過那些「加害者」的身不由己呢?
這部電影就是希望拋出這個問題,讓我們好好思考。
進一步來說,就算冬兵要負責,他該怎麼負責?誰有資格要他負責?
電影裡面的官員只因為一張照片,就要格殺勿論,沒有律師,沒有審判,這樣是正義嗎?
黑豹和鋼鐵人,一個是誤會,一個是知道真相,卻都想要動用私刑殺了冬兵這是正義嗎?
這些問題,才是電影真正想要討論的,不是法案裡面的管制。
不過並不是說法案就不重要,法案其實也呼應了這個主題。
很多人說,法案的議題到後來就模糊了,那是他們從頭到尾就誤解了法案的真意。
為什麼鋼鐵人支持法案?只要有人監管,就不會有人犧牲嗎?當然不是這樣。
問題是誰來負責的問題,鋼鐵人不願意負責,他沒有辦法承受罪惡感。
可是,只要他是聽從別人的命令,他就不會有罪惡感了--有沒有很耳熟呢?
沒錯這正是那些威權體制的士兵的想法啊!
這裡有個很有趣的地方,就是隊長在爭論的時候,指出了鋼鐵人的真意。
他認為鋼鐵人只是在推卸責任,這是不對的,每個人都該保有選擇並為自己的行為負責。
所以他認為冬兵不需要為了自己的行為負責,因為他從來都沒有選擇。
但是他們真的沒有選擇嗎?我們可以說自己是因為沒有選擇才服從命令嗎?
表面看來,導演希望我們選邊站,但事實上,根本沒有所謂的兩邊。
他們只是相同立場的不同表達而已。
威權政府統治之下的「加害者」要不要為自己的行為負責呢?
他們可不可以用「我只是服從命令」來撇清責任?
這才是最核心的問題,然後是怎麼負責?誰來要求他們負責?
電影最後,齊默將軍和黑豹形成了對比,黑豹說他們都被仇恨吞噬了,他不願重蹈覆轍。
他選擇讓齊默活著,要齊默對負起責任,可是怎麼做呢?
不知道,我們只看到他被關了起來。
很顯然,編導們也沒有答案,他們只是丟出問題希望我們思考。
這是部很有深度的電影,也很有娛樂性,所以大家看了都說好看。
可惜的是,許多人卻因為漫畫的先入為主誤解了電影。
希望這篇文章能讓大家再說好看之餘,也好好思考電影的主題,而不只是急著選邊站。
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雖然電影副標題是內戰,裡面也討論到了註冊法案。
但是這部電影想要討論的主題和漫畫想要討論的完全不同。
漫畫主題是「政府可不可以為了公共利益限制個人權力?」
電影的主題卻是「我們需不需要轉型正義?又該由誰來做?怎麼做?」
什麼意思?為什麼是轉型正義?因為,內戰雙方真正的矛盾,從來就不是法案。
真正激化鋼鐵人和美國隊長矛盾的,不是法案,而是一個人:寒冬士兵巴奇。
冬兵是個殺手,但他是個被洗腦的殺手,我們要不要追究他的責任?
冬兵是個虛構的角色,但它象徵的,就是漢娜鄂蘭在邪惡的平庸性談到的納粹士兵。
他們服從上級的指令殺害了無數猶太人,他們要不要為他們的行為負起責任?
隊長認為不用,他隱瞞冬兵殺害鋼鐵人父母的真相,只因為害怕他知道真相之後更難過。
這是不是像極了那些反對追究白色恐怖,認為這只會造成二次傷害的論調呢?
在台灣,主流的聲音是要追究責任,可是大家有沒有想過那些「加害者」的身不由己呢?
這部電影就是希望拋出這個問題,讓我們好好思考。
進一步來說,就算冬兵要負責,他該怎麼負責?誰有資格要他負責?
電影裡面的官員只因為一張照片,就要格殺勿論,沒有律師,沒有審判,這樣是正義嗎?
黑豹和鋼鐵人,一個是誤會,一個是知道真相,卻都想要動用私刑殺了冬兵這是正義嗎?
這些問題,才是電影真正想要討論的,不是法案裡面的管制。
不過並不是說法案就不重要,法案其實也呼應了這個主題。
很多人說,法案的議題到後來就模糊了,那是他們從頭到尾就誤解了法案的真意。
為什麼鋼鐵人支持法案?只要有人監管,就不會有人犧牲嗎?當然不是這樣。
問題是誰來負責的問題,鋼鐵人不願意負責,他沒有辦法承受罪惡感。
可是,只要他是聽從別人的命令,他就不會有罪惡感了--有沒有很耳熟呢?
沒錯這正是那些威權體制的士兵的想法啊!
這裡有個很有趣的地方,就是隊長在爭論的時候,指出了鋼鐵人的真意。
他認為鋼鐵人只是在推卸責任,這是不對的,每個人都該保有選擇並為自己的行為負責。
所以他認為冬兵不需要為了自己的行為負責,因為他從來都沒有選擇。
但是他們真的沒有選擇嗎?我們可以說自己是因為沒有選擇才服從命令嗎?
表面看來,導演希望我們選邊站,但事實上,根本沒有所謂的兩邊。
他們只是相同立場的不同表達而已。
威權政府統治之下的「加害者」要不要為自己的行為負責呢?
他們可不可以用「我只是服從命令」來撇清責任?
這才是最核心的問題,然後是怎麼負責?誰來要求他們負責?
電影最後,齊默將軍和黑豹形成了對比,黑豹說他們都被仇恨吞噬了,他不願重蹈覆轍。
他選擇讓齊默活著,要齊默對負起責任,可是怎麼做呢?
不知道,我們只看到他被關了起來。
很顯然,編導們也沒有答案,他們只是丟出問題希望我們思考。
這是部很有深度的電影,也很有娛樂性,所以大家看了都說好看。
可惜的是,許多人卻因為漫畫的先入為主誤解了電影。
希望這篇文章能讓大家再說好看之餘,也好好思考電影的主題,而不只是急著選邊站。
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