這一夜,我跟玄之玄站在同一邊 (第7集雷) - 布袋戲
By Hedwig
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雖然這次片中無論文化背景、情境、社會制度等都與現實環境不同,
有人認為不能與廢除死刑議題作連結,(個人覺得可以帶入邪惡的
平庸性的討論,不過劇中沒有給出太多材料,另外,魔族的價值觀
本來就對殺戮沒有負面觀感,這件事對他們而言是不是邪惡還很難說)
對此我倒是覺得,正是因為這樣的設定,可以讓我們迴避掉現實中
很容易讓雙方夾纏不清的假議題,直接回歸到問題的本質:以殺人
來報復的正當性建立在什麼之上?
所謂假議題,例如:
該不該用稅金養重罪犯(先不說現行監獄的產品收入差不多能夠自行
填補年度預算,能夠從得出不該靠稅金養的結論就直接跳到應該殺掉,
我覺得也是很奇妙,啊子彈也很貴內)
死刑誤判問題(那難道有期徒刑或無期徒刑誤判就比較沒關係嗎?這
是實務上在判死該考慮的問題,但不該用來論證國家殺人的正當性與否)
此外還有死刑的嚇阻力是否存在的問題,這裡就不贅述了。
由於中原從西劍流之亂以來都是無政府無法治狀態,也沒有需要把魔兵關起來
靠大家捐錢養的問題,所以我們可以把上面兩個問題丟開。
「殺人償命」,說起來很理所當然的一句話,不過這種想當然耳的觀念
認真檢視一下通常都不太經得起檢驗。
在「人命等價」的前提下,關於殺人這件事只有兩種可能:
一、要嘛大家的命都一樣沒價值,你可以殺人,但同時他人基於任何
動機(不限於報復)也可以殺你,大家各憑本事。類似魔世的觀念。
二、要嘛大家的命都一樣有價值,別人不可殺你,你自然也不可殺別
人(包括授權讓國家來殺),不論任何動機。
於是,在人命等價的前提下,一、的選項可以合理化報仇性的殺人,但
會製造動蕩不安的社會,通常沒人會接受。但在二、的選項下,報復的
正當性又消失了。
噢讓我們面對現實吧,在這個教導我們暴力可以達到目的的文化下,人
性就是會想要復仇,然而一旦對殺害自己親友的等價生命進行殺戮的報復,
就是雙重標準,那麼這個正當性問題該如何解套?金光又幫我們做到了:生命不等價。
對尚同會雜魚而言,「魔」並不是「人」,是某種比人還低等的東西,
所以雖然他們會認同不可殺人的理念,但殺了低等的魔就沒關係,最好
還要先姦後殺再姦再殺凌遲一番更加痛快,這是人類的劣根性。
相對的,當菩提尊跳出來受一人一掌時,尚同會雜魚們仍舊有些許掙扎,
除了菩提尊並非其仇恨的投射對象之外,另一方面也因為他是「人」,
屬於雜魚認同的「同等級生命」。否則今天要是大師兄沒回魔世,跳出
來代替菩提尊今天的位置,你看大家還不拚命下重手把這隻魔打死。
另一方面,魔兵之所以能夠毫無憐憫地對待中原人,也是基於這種生
命不等價的心態。 因此,當尚同會群魚以同樣的手段對付殘存魔兵,
在那個當下,心態與魔兵並無二致。這也是菩提尊想避免的情況,
天下無魔,天下皆魔。
其實這樣看來,編劇大概正是希望激起這個議題的討論,從現況看來他
成功了XD。而劇中沒有給我們「怎樣比較好」的答案,是堅守生命等價
的原則秉持不殺,或者命有貴賤快意恩仇,留待各位自行思索。
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有人認為不能與廢除死刑議題作連結,(個人覺得可以帶入邪惡的
平庸性的討論,不過劇中沒有給出太多材料,另外,魔族的價值觀
本來就對殺戮沒有負面觀感,這件事對他們而言是不是邪惡還很難說)
對此我倒是覺得,正是因為這樣的設定,可以讓我們迴避掉現實中
很容易讓雙方夾纏不清的假議題,直接回歸到問題的本質:以殺人
來報復的正當性建立在什麼之上?
所謂假議題,例如:
該不該用稅金養重罪犯(先不說現行監獄的產品收入差不多能夠自行
填補年度預算,能夠從得出不該靠稅金養的結論就直接跳到應該殺掉,
我覺得也是很奇妙,啊子彈也很貴內)
死刑誤判問題(那難道有期徒刑或無期徒刑誤判就比較沒關係嗎?這
是實務上在判死該考慮的問題,但不該用來論證國家殺人的正當性與否)
此外還有死刑的嚇阻力是否存在的問題,這裡就不贅述了。
由於中原從西劍流之亂以來都是無政府無法治狀態,也沒有需要把魔兵關起來
靠大家捐錢養的問題,所以我們可以把上面兩個問題丟開。
「殺人償命」,說起來很理所當然的一句話,不過這種想當然耳的觀念
認真檢視一下通常都不太經得起檢驗。
在「人命等價」的前提下,關於殺人這件事只有兩種可能:
一、要嘛大家的命都一樣沒價值,你可以殺人,但同時他人基於任何
動機(不限於報復)也可以殺你,大家各憑本事。類似魔世的觀念。
二、要嘛大家的命都一樣有價值,別人不可殺你,你自然也不可殺別
人(包括授權讓國家來殺),不論任何動機。
於是,在人命等價的前提下,一、的選項可以合理化報仇性的殺人,但
會製造動蕩不安的社會,通常沒人會接受。但在二、的選項下,報復的
正當性又消失了。
噢讓我們面對現實吧,在這個教導我們暴力可以達到目的的文化下,人
性就是會想要復仇,然而一旦對殺害自己親友的等價生命進行殺戮的報復,
就是雙重標準,那麼這個正當性問題該如何解套?金光又幫我們做到了:生命不等價。
對尚同會雜魚而言,「魔」並不是「人」,是某種比人還低等的東西,
所以雖然他們會認同不可殺人的理念,但殺了低等的魔就沒關係,最好
還要先姦後殺再姦再殺凌遲一番更加痛快,這是人類的劣根性。
相對的,當菩提尊跳出來受一人一掌時,尚同會雜魚們仍舊有些許掙扎,
除了菩提尊並非其仇恨的投射對象之外,另一方面也因為他是「人」,
屬於雜魚認同的「同等級生命」。否則今天要是大師兄沒回魔世,跳出
來代替菩提尊今天的位置,你看大家還不拚命下重手把這隻魔打死。
另一方面,魔兵之所以能夠毫無憐憫地對待中原人,也是基於這種生
命不等價的心態。 因此,當尚同會群魚以同樣的手段對付殘存魔兵,
在那個當下,心態與魔兵並無二致。這也是菩提尊想避免的情況,
天下無魔,天下皆魔。
其實這樣看來,編劇大概正是希望激起這個議題的討論,從現況看來他
成功了XD。而劇中沒有給我們「怎樣比較好」的答案,是堅守生命等價
的原則秉持不殺,或者命有貴賤快意恩仇,留待各位自行思索。
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