金光問題在於「便當少、魔王弱」??? - 布袋戲
By Anthony
at 2014-08-04T22:56
at 2014-08-04T22:56
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先為國內近來2起災難的罹難者致哀
回到金光
最近金光出了不小的狀況,不管是在百度、巴哈和本版都被"熱烈討論"!
當然很多人提出了問題點,
小弟我也有自己也有一些想法,之後會再以"資深觀影家"的身分來發表XD
不過
小弟今天想來討論的是
在眾多板友討論之間,有種說法是,金光的問題就在於
「角色留太多,便當發太少」
「魔王的壓迫感不夠,所以不精采」
是這樣嘛?
其實小弟對這種說法有點不以為然...
應該這麼說,我不知道其他人是怎樣?
就是因為這兩點才會讓我想看金光想追金光!
因為這兩點就是讓金光跟霹靂不一樣的地方!
我就以實例來說好了,
當然金光發便當時幾乎都是高潮
但是金光的高潮,只能靠發便當嘛?
回顧前幾檔戲,第一時間想起的經典場景,未必都是發要角的便當吧!
決戰時刻:
史豔文、藏鏡人鬥炎魔
一狼戰三部一天王
雷狩銀燕戰
九龍變:
藏鏡人、狼主血戰苗軍
黑龍白狼為了妳我甘願放棄我自己
(雖然這算是發黑龍白狼便當)
黑白二戰網中人
伏羲深淵布局真相大白
劍影魔蹤:
劍十二溫皇敗
小王擊殺藏鏡人狼主
史豔文單闖魔軍
止戈流第一次開陣
魔戮血戰:
憶無心鬥魔繭
赤羽回歸
黑白三掌三危
憾天闕戰鐵繡求衣
一劍無敵
至於談到「魔王的壓迫感」部分
九龍變的BOSS苗王跟炎魔一比壓迫感少一大截
他怎麼算都不算巨頭,都是靠撿尾刀的
而且九龍變也沒有末世的急迫感,甚至一開場還滿悠閒的
九龍變有因此變得難看了嘛?
劍影魔蹤,帝鬼的確算是很強
可是除了第一次圍勦戰,他硬壓天海、邪馬台、萬雪夜和獨眼龍
之後好像一路倒楣到底…滿慘的
但這似乎也不會讓劍影魔蹤缺少高潮
而本檔魔戮血戰
小空很明顯除了靠魔之甲硬撐外
武力比前面幾檔的BOSS少了一大截
但我卻覺得魔戮前半檔十分精采!(後半檔觀望中XD)
那為什麼我對這兩點特別感冒?
因為我覺得布袋戲這種不會結束的劇種
如果每一檔都要靠更有壓迫感的BOSS來製造高潮
要拼命發角色便當,然後出新角
那唯一的結果就是:等級亂跳,新角狂打臉舊角 (沒錯,就是霹靂)
我要老實說,我是從決戰時刻開始買起的,
到了九龍變,我會決定繼續追下去的原因是..因為史藏大戰炎魔放在九龍變第一集XD
開開玩笑!
其實是因為看到西劍流退回東瀛的安排讓我很感動
因為不是忽然冒出一個深層勢力,把西劍流滅掉,然後變成新一檔的BOSS
而後來在某次編劇雜談,終於聽到三弦確定說出金光走的路線是不濫發便當,
角色能留就留,以及角色等級穩定等等
再搭配上金光現在的有限世界觀(九界),以及角色有固定壽命
這真的讓我滿認同的
因為我真的覺得布袋戲中每個角色都是塑造很久,累積這麼多的情感(粉絲)
卻因為他的戲份沒了,要捧新角或要製造高潮,就宰了他
這跟炒短線、殺雞取卵何異?
我一直認為布袋戲這種理論上永不停止的劇種
是可以透過劇情的演進累積出「整個世界的歷史感和人際關係」,
這些角色他們不是用完就丟,可以繼續活在這個世界上
將來變成一種寶貴的角色資產
如果未來劇情有所牽扯,又可以復出帶來更多感動
如現在的赤羽和神田再次出場給我的感動絕對大於莫名其妙出來一對超強的智者和劍士
(雖然赤羽和神田的新偶有點悲劇..)
這些角色可能也會有下一代,或是徒弟,於是可以帶出傳承的關係
而各種組織不是這檔戲結束了,就被某個深層給消滅了
他也會演進和傳承他的歷史
如苗疆從皓穹後分裂為東西苗,再由蒼狼一統
但是苗疆這個組織並不是就消失了,仍然持續延續
這些角色和組織的歷史不是包袱
這是一種寶貴的資產,隨著劇情演進而成長擴大
未來的劇集也可以與過去的劇集或角色相互牽連,
是基於之前舊角和組織的歷史而帶出更複雜的劇情…
我認為布袋戲的劣勢同時也是優勢,就在於他永不停歇
就算是現在連載很長的航海王、火影等等
我相信他們累積的劇情和角色歷史,絕對很難超過布袋戲這種劇種
如果布袋戲不停的發舊角便當,不停的用更強的組織消滅之前的組織
那除了主要角色外,每一檔劇情跟前幾檔的劇情人物幾乎斷絕..
這不是白白浪費掉布袋戲的優勢了嘛?
所以我認為金光現在有他的問題
但不能病急亂投醫,劇情悶,可以再改進
但如果把自己的特色放掉了,那就是再也回不來了!
如果今天金光狂發便當,狂出超強的深層勢力
那不是變成霹靂了嘛?有何區隔性?
我不是說霹靂不好,事實上霹靂的確很成功
可是我就是因為不喜歡這種模式所以才看金光的
如果金光又改成霹靂風,那還會有人想看金光嘛?
應該很難吧..因為霹靂的偶跟佈景都屌打金光阿!
所以..希望金光團隊加油..希望不要放掉自己的特點了!
以上,為個人淺見
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回到金光
最近金光出了不小的狀況,不管是在百度、巴哈和本版都被"熱烈討論"!
當然很多人提出了問題點,
小弟我也有自己也有一些想法,之後會再以"資深觀影家"的身分來發表XD
不過
小弟今天想來討論的是
在眾多板友討論之間,有種說法是,金光的問題就在於
「角色留太多,便當發太少」
「魔王的壓迫感不夠,所以不精采」
是這樣嘛?
其實小弟對這種說法有點不以為然...
應該這麼說,我不知道其他人是怎樣?
就是因為這兩點才會讓我想看金光想追金光!
因為這兩點就是讓金光跟霹靂不一樣的地方!
我就以實例來說好了,
當然金光發便當時幾乎都是高潮
但是金光的高潮,只能靠發便當嘛?
回顧前幾檔戲,第一時間想起的經典場景,未必都是發要角的便當吧!
決戰時刻:
史豔文、藏鏡人鬥炎魔
一狼戰三部一天王
雷狩銀燕戰
九龍變:
藏鏡人、狼主血戰苗軍
黑龍白狼為了妳我甘願放棄我自己
(雖然這算是發黑龍白狼便當)
黑白二戰網中人
伏羲深淵布局真相大白
劍影魔蹤:
劍十二溫皇敗
小王擊殺藏鏡人狼主
史豔文單闖魔軍
止戈流第一次開陣
魔戮血戰:
憶無心鬥魔繭
赤羽回歸
黑白三掌三危
憾天闕戰鐵繡求衣
一劍無敵
至於談到「魔王的壓迫感」部分
九龍變的BOSS苗王跟炎魔一比壓迫感少一大截
他怎麼算都不算巨頭,都是靠撿尾刀的
而且九龍變也沒有末世的急迫感,甚至一開場還滿悠閒的
九龍變有因此變得難看了嘛?
劍影魔蹤,帝鬼的確算是很強
可是除了第一次圍勦戰,他硬壓天海、邪馬台、萬雪夜和獨眼龍
之後好像一路倒楣到底…滿慘的
但這似乎也不會讓劍影魔蹤缺少高潮
而本檔魔戮血戰
小空很明顯除了靠魔之甲硬撐外
武力比前面幾檔的BOSS少了一大截
但我卻覺得魔戮前半檔十分精采!(後半檔觀望中XD)
那為什麼我對這兩點特別感冒?
因為我覺得布袋戲這種不會結束的劇種
如果每一檔都要靠更有壓迫感的BOSS來製造高潮
要拼命發角色便當,然後出新角
那唯一的結果就是:等級亂跳,新角狂打臉舊角 (沒錯,就是霹靂)
我要老實說,我是從決戰時刻開始買起的,
到了九龍變,我會決定繼續追下去的原因是..因為史藏大戰炎魔放在九龍變第一集XD
開開玩笑!
其實是因為看到西劍流退回東瀛的安排讓我很感動
因為不是忽然冒出一個深層勢力,把西劍流滅掉,然後變成新一檔的BOSS
而後來在某次編劇雜談,終於聽到三弦確定說出金光走的路線是不濫發便當,
角色能留就留,以及角色等級穩定等等
再搭配上金光現在的有限世界觀(九界),以及角色有固定壽命
這真的讓我滿認同的
因為我真的覺得布袋戲中每個角色都是塑造很久,累積這麼多的情感(粉絲)
卻因為他的戲份沒了,要捧新角或要製造高潮,就宰了他
這跟炒短線、殺雞取卵何異?
我一直認為布袋戲這種理論上永不停止的劇種
是可以透過劇情的演進累積出「整個世界的歷史感和人際關係」,
這些角色他們不是用完就丟,可以繼續活在這個世界上
將來變成一種寶貴的角色資產
如果未來劇情有所牽扯,又可以復出帶來更多感動
如現在的赤羽和神田再次出場給我的感動絕對大於莫名其妙出來一對超強的智者和劍士
(雖然赤羽和神田的新偶有點悲劇..)
這些角色可能也會有下一代,或是徒弟,於是可以帶出傳承的關係
而各種組織不是這檔戲結束了,就被某個深層給消滅了
他也會演進和傳承他的歷史
如苗疆從皓穹後分裂為東西苗,再由蒼狼一統
但是苗疆這個組織並不是就消失了,仍然持續延續
這些角色和組織的歷史不是包袱
這是一種寶貴的資產,隨著劇情演進而成長擴大
未來的劇集也可以與過去的劇集或角色相互牽連,
是基於之前舊角和組織的歷史而帶出更複雜的劇情…
我認為布袋戲的劣勢同時也是優勢,就在於他永不停歇
就算是現在連載很長的航海王、火影等等
我相信他們累積的劇情和角色歷史,絕對很難超過布袋戲這種劇種
如果布袋戲不停的發舊角便當,不停的用更強的組織消滅之前的組織
那除了主要角色外,每一檔劇情跟前幾檔的劇情人物幾乎斷絕..
這不是白白浪費掉布袋戲的優勢了嘛?
所以我認為金光現在有他的問題
但不能病急亂投醫,劇情悶,可以再改進
但如果把自己的特色放掉了,那就是再也回不來了!
如果今天金光狂發便當,狂出超強的深層勢力
那不是變成霹靂了嘛?有何區隔性?
我不是說霹靂不好,事實上霹靂的確很成功
可是我就是因為不喜歡這種模式所以才看金光的
如果金光又改成霹靂風,那還會有人想看金光嘛?
應該很難吧..因為霹靂的偶跟佈景都屌打金光阿!
所以..希望金光團隊加油..希望不要放掉自己的特點了!
以上,為個人淺見
--
_______
│ x77 │
│ ●●│
│ > │
\_=◎_/ :為什麼這麼年輕的孩子會有肛如此嚴苛的稱號!?
--
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