關於暴雷 - 臺劇

By Lauren
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我是在噬罪者實況文被質疑故意暴雷的某G,
在這邊想就此事和大家談談,也歡迎大家在下方留言討論。
先說幾點結論:
1.我也是正版平台觀看者,我也有參與實況文討論的權利
2.不管從我自己的道德標準或是版上規定來看,我都認為我沒有「故意暴雷」
3.我認為分文討論是個能夠尊重所有平台使用者的方法
首先來談談實況文的目的,我個人認為是讓版友有個討論空間,順便看看自己有沒有
漏掉了哪些點,這個功能絕對不是像sodabubble小版主說的一樣,是臉書、IG、推特、噗
浪、LINE等社群媒體能取代的。再者,該篇實況文本身標題及內文也有提到其他平台的觀
看資訊,因此個人認為在沒有標明僅允許特定平台討論的情況下,實況文不該侷限、甚至
遷就於特定平台。我也看了先前與惡實況文的處理方式,當時在文章開頭就有標明僅供哪
些平台討論,但這篇噬罪者並沒有,因此我也希望sodabubble小版主不要再說該篇實況文
以實體電視為主,因為你並沒有標明!此外,如果禁止非電視平台的使用者參與PTT上討
論,這對其他平台的使用者來說十分不公平,明明都是看正版,憑甚麼要被這樣歧視?這
種做法不也是侵犯網路平台觀看者的權益?
在暴雷的方面,版規關於暴雷的規定是:「一旦戲劇於臺灣的電視台/合法網路平台
首播之後,即無放雷疑慮(不包含網路平台VIP會員搶先看)。」而NF本身沒有VIP會員的
制度,也就是說,當在NF播出之後,就不符合版規暴雷的構成要件。我在該篇的推文,也
只是想找看看有沒有同樣是NF平台的使用者討論,進度也完全按照正常播放的速度,不信
的話歡迎大家比對。如果我要故意暴雷,我大可以直接跳到結尾再上來推文,但我沒有,
因此我自認我也沒有故意暴雷。覺得這樣被暴雷到的人也可以照sodabubble小版主自己說
的:「認真收看,等完整播完,再跟上討論」。
當然,我也知道,同時有不同平台的使用者討論的話勢必會另外一方產生影響,不管
禁止或勸阻哪方參與討論,也都會影響其參與討論的權益。而當今網路平台興起,傳統電
視不再是唯一的首播管道,因此在實況文的規範上,也許要找出一個能夠尊重所有平台的
使用者,讓各方都能舒適的參與討論的方法。我私心是希望能夠像之前與惡一樣,對不同
平台進行分文討論。在版規有標明需分文討論且能夠保障所有平台使用者權益的情況下,
我相當樂意在指定的文章下進行討論、也願意服從版上規則。但若沒有特定規範,我認為
非電視平台的使用者也有參與實況文討論的權益。
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在這邊想就此事和大家談談,也歡迎大家在下方留言討論。
先說幾點結論:
1.我也是正版平台觀看者,我也有參與實況文討論的權利
2.不管從我自己的道德標準或是版上規定來看,我都認為我沒有「故意暴雷」
3.我認為分文討論是個能夠尊重所有平台使用者的方法
首先來談談實況文的目的,我個人認為是讓版友有個討論空間,順便看看自己有沒有
漏掉了哪些點,這個功能絕對不是像sodabubble小版主說的一樣,是臉書、IG、推特、噗
浪、LINE等社群媒體能取代的。再者,該篇實況文本身標題及內文也有提到其他平台的觀
看資訊,因此個人認為在沒有標明僅允許特定平台討論的情況下,實況文不該侷限、甚至
遷就於特定平台。我也看了先前與惡實況文的處理方式,當時在文章開頭就有標明僅供哪
些平台討論,但這篇噬罪者並沒有,因此我也希望sodabubble小版主不要再說該篇實況文
以實體電視為主,因為你並沒有標明!此外,如果禁止非電視平台的使用者參與PTT上討
論,這對其他平台的使用者來說十分不公平,明明都是看正版,憑甚麼要被這樣歧視?這
種做法不也是侵犯網路平台觀看者的權益?
在暴雷的方面,版規關於暴雷的規定是:「一旦戲劇於臺灣的電視台/合法網路平台
首播之後,即無放雷疑慮(不包含網路平台VIP會員搶先看)。」而NF本身沒有VIP會員的
制度,也就是說,當在NF播出之後,就不符合版規暴雷的構成要件。我在該篇的推文,也
只是想找看看有沒有同樣是NF平台的使用者討論,進度也完全按照正常播放的速度,不信
的話歡迎大家比對。如果我要故意暴雷,我大可以直接跳到結尾再上來推文,但我沒有,
因此我自認我也沒有故意暴雷。覺得這樣被暴雷到的人也可以照sodabubble小版主自己說
的:「認真收看,等完整播完,再跟上討論」。
當然,我也知道,同時有不同平台的使用者討論的話勢必會另外一方產生影響,不管
禁止或勸阻哪方參與討論,也都會影響其參與討論的權益。而當今網路平台興起,傳統電
視不再是唯一的首播管道,因此在實況文的規範上,也許要找出一個能夠尊重所有平台的
使用者,讓各方都能舒適的參與討論的方法。我私心是希望能夠像之前與惡一樣,對不同
平台進行分文討論。在版規有標明需分文討論且能夠保障所有平台使用者權益的情況下,
我相當樂意在指定的文章下進行討論、也願意服從版上規則。但若沒有特定規範,我認為
非電視平台的使用者也有參與實況文討論的權益。
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