關於美元或邦茜 - 中視
By Charlotte
at 2008-12-25T02:50
at 2008-12-25T02:50
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※ 引述《yashien (艾莉莉)》之銘言:
(原文的部份請參照原PO的原文XD)
整理了部份推文
(阿>"< ~我只是做到 把被斷的地方連在一起這樣而已....orz )
但是因為推文有時間差的問題
所以有些詞意可能會出現些微出入喔 所以也請配合原文觀看XD
(推文的歸類我可能有些timing的地方放錯了~使意思有差異
那推文中的各位板大再告訴我吧:P)
→ wings2u2me:量的感情戲 還不如一些長期而連貫的細節朋友般的相處
→ summertrees:邦茜支持者也很傷害吧?大家多點耐心看編劇怎麼說就是
→ misaiya:發美元之間突飛猛進的話,我覺得特意作梗給美元得太明顯了
→ wings2u2me:感情 例如如果當一美落榜時 孫媽一直抱怨後 一元沒說 12/25 00:18
→ wings2u2me:任何話 只是陪在一美身邊 給她一個笑容 這不就無言交
→ wings2u2me:代很多深層的感覺了嗎?這根本也不會影響主戲 卻會讓我
→ wings2u2me:們感受到一元這一年來的改變 與滴水穿頑石的力量
→ wings2u2me:open是這個部分動搖了
→ quiyu:一元才有機會
→ pommpomm:現在只要是有互動就變閃了? XD
→ misaiya:如果到時美元配配得太刻意鑿痕太深,我會有點失望吧~
→ evaliao:是把攻勢暫緩而已 但這小圈圈一元以經常參與了 算是進步了
→ wings2u2me:如果中間沒鋪陳 卻要等到事件來觸發 反而沒有mag姐說的
→ wings2u2me:長期經營的扎實感
→ wings2u2me:有滿滿的愛在深層 而不是感覺前面的船過無痕 重新來過
→ jackie1882:那裡...算討論區嗎......
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※ 編輯: bubblet 來自: 118.169.19.118 (12/25 02:57)
※ 編輯: bubblet 來自: 118.169.19.118 (12/25 03:04)
(原文的部份請參照原PO的原文XD)
整理了部份推文
(阿>"< ~我只是做到 把被斷的地方連在一起這樣而已....orz )
但是因為推文有時間差的問題
所以有些詞意可能會出現些微出入喔 所以也請配合原文觀看XD
(推文的歸類我可能有些timing的地方放錯了~使意思有差異
那推文中的各位板大再告訴我吧:P)
推 Irene1030:我還蠻喜歡朱夫人跟拍雄部分,不喜歡悲劇QQ 原PO說的很好12/24 23:32
→ Irene1030:希望邦茜.美元能有好的未來,越閃越好12/24 23:33
→ hunghungar:#其實陶媽阿,從一開始跟茜的對話後就後悔了12/24 23:33
→ hunghungar:所以不叫鬼打牆吧@@?12/24 23:33
推 wings2u2me:我喜歡星期一跟二兩集的理由 除了美元之外 就是即使在12/24 23:32
→ wings2u2me:同一個村仔 即使彼此影響 但每家還是有各自的煩惱與人12/24 23:33
→ wings2u2me:生 邦茜的確感人 因為編劇花了很多時間跟橋段去經營 無12/24 23:34
→ wings2u2me:形中 其他劇中人物都也只變成觀眾而已 當然編劇有她12/24 23:35
→ wings2u2me:的脈絡跟道理 但是很不均勻 一大段戲就集中在那裡12/24 23:36
推 pommpomm:朱媽:我遲早有一天一定要搬離這個村子!!!!12/24 23:34
→ pommpomm:我每次看到這句都大笑 XDDD12/24 23:35
→ gotohikaru:我也超愛這句XD 爛地方12/24 23:35
推 newdill:看到預告是悲劇,我男友就說變難看了= ="因為不喜歡太悲情12/24 23:36
→ newdill:真希望劇情不要一整集悲,不然,我會屈服轉政論台>"<12/24 23:37
推 singerjoan:我覺得拍攝的進度也是一個影響,編劇在制定劇本時有她的12/24 23:37
→ singerjoan:考量跟編排,可是看到現在.很確定實際上拍出來的部份已12/24 23:37
→ singerjoan:經超過編劇預定的時間.所以每一集的收尾才會這麼不一致 12/24 23:37
→ singerjoan:因為拍攝後的集數跟劇本的集數已經不同了.才會造成這 12/24 23:38
→ singerjoan:種斷得莫名其妙或部份劇情過於集中的現象 12/24 23:39
→ Eva0413:人生本來就有悲有喜,這就是光陰的故事 12/24 23:40
推 gotohikaru:不錯了啦 光陰已經把眷村拍得很光明了 12/24 23:40
→ killualove:推樓上XD 12/24 23:43
推 summertrees:邦茜的段落完整是因為他們開始得早啊,美元根本都還沒 12/24 23:44
→ summertrees:正式開始,只是一堆偶然的曖昧而已,當然比較少啊,他們12/24 23:45
→ summertrees:的戲還在後面,是有什麼好抱怨的啊 ╮(﹀_﹀")╭12/24 23:46
推 watercolor:同意樓上。12/24 23:47
→ pommpomm:咪兔。12/24 23:47
推 singerjoan:me three12/24 23:48
→ jackie1882:因為偶然的曖昧就已經被閃瞎了....12/24 23:48
→ killualove:summe大說到重點了@@12/24 23:48
→ jackie1882:那我要不要咪佛12/24 23:48
推 newdill:美元被抱怨的重點在於鋪陳斷得太離譜,別看到美元就反= =12/24 23:48
→ killualove:只能說美元讓大家心花朵朵開>/////<12/24 23:49
推 bubblet:大推原PO 十分得我心阿!!!>//////<12/24 23:51
推 summertrees:雖然我昨天看時也"耶?"了一下,但也不是不可以推想美元12/24 23:52
→ summertrees:暫時是擱下來,因為一美對一元還沒太多感覺,戲在後頭12/24 23:53
→ summertrees:我幹嘛反美元啊,我超愛孫一美啊~~~~~~~12/24 23:54
推 gotohikaru:而且我也希望幾摳緩一下 不過編劇馬上就出來解釋了12/24 23:54
→ yashien:所以我說大家並不是不喜歡邦茜 只是對美元梗斷的突兀而多 12/24 23:55
→ yashien:少點抱怨 推 newdill:有人畫出許媽跟一元的片段了,可以去官網點閱囉 12/24 23:55
→ gotohikaru:不過上一週大家是火力全開呢XD 12/24 23:56
推 summertrees:其實不算梗斷啦,對一美來說這件事說破就是結束了啊 12/24 23:56
→ summertrees:結束了就是結束了,難道一元還能硬追?所以我覺得還好 → yashien:並不是抱怨邦茜太多 而是抱怨梗斷的不夠完整 這才是重點阿 12/24 23:56
→ yashien:所以不要為了邦茜反美元 也不要為了美元反邦茜 我的本意是12/24 23:57
→ yashien:希望大家可以不要有太多爭執在這方面囉 推 misaiya:因為觀眾期待美元和邦茜這兩條感情線是可以同時平行進行的12/24 23:58
→ misaiya:而不是主梗在轉移到那一邊,另一邊就淡下來了12/24 23:59
→ summertrees:現在應該是要等正式來之前的預備備梗 XDDDD12/24 23:58
推 newdill:我想大家看戲的切入點不同,不能要求他人也接受跳針的劇情12/24 23:59
→ newdill:而且抱怨的點也要看清楚,為反而反真得蠻難接受的12/24 23:59
→ summertrees:美元和邦茜這兩條感情線本來就不是同時平行進行的啊12/24 23:59
→ pommpomm:故事有起承轉合,現在來到了「轉」,無論是邦茜還美元12/25 00:00
推 OoJudyoO:原PO 我懂妳的心情 重點是在劇情上的跳針12/25 00:01
→ summertrees:哪有誰為反而反啊,雖結束得不漂亮,但也不是完全不合理12/25 00:01
推 bubblet:轉很好 可是沒戲份 是轉在哪? 直接空白掉了呀12/25 00:02
→ pommpomm:就是一美說破、一元決定默默守候,現在就等特殊事件觸發12/25 00:02
推 newdill:只要有人po出美元配沒有戲分,推文就會有酸文,不反嗎= =?12/25 00:03
→ bubblet:PO文出來抱怨 也沒說什麼太否決的話 但是就是會出現12/25 00:03
→ bubblet:"這是光陰的故事 不是美元的故事" <==這種全盤否定的字句 12/25 00:03
→ bubblet:這種大絕 就算為反而反吧 12/25 00:04
推 summertrees:因為現實就是美元還沒正式開始啊,一直說美元配沒有戲 12/25 00:04
→ summertrees:不是有點....沒開始是要怎麼生出很多戲份?還不如耐性12/25 00:05
推 wings2u2me:一元的守候 這個轉得很薄弱 有點路人化 其實可以細緻點 12/25 00:04
→ wings2u2me:來處理 幾個鏡頭 幾句話 就細細地連起來了12/25 00:05
→ jackie1882:這篇推文我沒看到這句話啊 = = 12/25 00:04
→ samission:不是反,只是覺得就順著編劇走,只是一集沒出現 12/25 00:04
→ killualove:我PO那句文是我太激動 但...但但我也很愛美元耶 囧 12/25 00:04
→ killualove:這樣算給我扣帽子嗎QQ12/25 00:05
→ bubblet:是前面啦 前面的一些文~~ 從美元崛起後 我看過很多次這12/25 00:05
→ bubblet:樣的字句......每看一次就覺得很大絕 = =12/25 00:05
推 gotohikaru:說實在 一堆抱怨文 不難想像會生出那種反文耶@@a12/25 00:05
→ samission:如果有個三五集沒出現 那在來說也OK吧12/25 00:05
→ summertrees:看看編劇怎麼說戲怎麼走.美元只是光陰一環也沒錯啊12/25 00:06
→ bubblet:推wings2u2me大 默默守候很難演 所以我們沒看出來嗎?XD12/25 00:06
推 pommpomm:不只美元阿,被稱「陶家的故事」那時,我就常放這種大絕12/25 00:06
→ pommpomm:了耶 :) 就順著故事走咩 → jackie1882:我也很愛看美元 可是我覺得結束還算OK耶= =" 是有點帶12/25 00:06
推 helen7510:我也很愛美元阿……但不喜歡一直嫌棄美元戲份很少12/25 00:06
→ helen7510:畢竟美元根本就還沒真正開始阿……12/25 00:07
→ wings2u2me:真的只是一環 百分百同意 只是在做其他主戲時 微微地12/25 00:07
→ wings2u2me:交代 這樣前面鋪陳的力量 說停就停 然後重新開始新故事 12/25 00:08
→ wings2u2me:好突兀
→ bubblet:k大我不是針對你喔~ 真的看過很多次這樣的話.... 12/25 00:07
→ pommpomm:光陰主打親情愛情,只看見愛情的人很可惜耶 12/25 00:07
推 samission:&友情 編劇真的不容易啦 把很多支線撐起一整個村的故事 12/25 00:08
→ killualove:陶家那時候也是有風有雨的XD 12/25 00:07
推 newdill:只希望這裡不要變一言堂,文章本就愛看則看,推文就別推酸文 12/25 00:08
→ newdill:抱怨的人也不全都是只看愛情,歸類別二分法...12/25 00:08
→ bubblet:恩~~文章看到不喜歡跳過就好 沒必要推文說不喜歡12/25 00:09
推 summertrees:這樣說的話,一元打籃球那場做球給一美,不就是一種12/25 00:09
→ summertrees:低調追求?孩子們心裡都有數,爸媽以為事件結束這樣12/25 00:10
推 pommpomm:有的人,當然不是全部人,因為沒美元,而怪到邦茜多...12/25 00:09
→ pommpomm:這樣不是很不恰當嗎?12/25 00:09
推 OoJudyoO:推wings2u2me大+1 一些小分鏡可以使故事更流暢好看喔~~12/25 00:10
→ wings2u2me:pommpomm大 妳說只愛看愛情戲 真的是言重了 愛情可以很12/25 00:10
→ wings2u2me:細緻地藏在其他劇情裡 用一些細節來串聯 而不影響主戲12/25 00:11
推 tomo16248:不過看推文 還是有美元的一些小動作被津津樂道不是嗎@@12/25 00:11
推 pommpomm:我當然不是指全部人呀,但是看看官網言論,這種人是有的12/25 00:11
→ pommpomm:也不是要指責什麼,但因看不到想看的,而說其他演員的戲12/25 00:11
→ pommpomm:分太多,我覺得對其他演員不公平 → wings2u2me:當然美元還沒真的開始 可以一元的改變跟一美對一元的12/25 00:11
→ wings2u2me:感覺變化 如果不在這些小細節中體現 (我不是要大段閃) 12/25 00:12
→ wings2u2me:就沒有之前編劇說的那種細水長流的蘊釀感 就算之後有大 → wings2u2me:量的感情戲 還不如一些長期而連貫的細節朋友般的相處
推 samission:好啦 我舉手 我真的是因為看到官網太多這種言論 被煩到12/25 00:12
推 bubblet:我沒有去看官網 這裡是PTT ......... 12/25 00:12
→ pommpomm:我們其實有點在說兩件事了。 12/25 00:12
→ pommpomm:我所說得那些官網言論,之前曾散見在LIVE文推文裡... 12/25 00:13
→ pommpomm:被常常放大絕之後,就少出現很多了... 推 summertrees:反正我覺得不要給人家戴為反而反的大帽子,因為包括我 12/25 00:13
→ summertrees:和很多人,都很支持美元配.只是在看到抱怨文時,會忍不12/25 00:14
→ summertrees:很想勸慰(?)不要一直抱怨,因為故事還沒到那裡,這樣對 → summertrees:邦茜支持者也很傷害吧?大家多點耐心看編劇怎麼說就是
→ OoJudyoO:說美元的故事和只看愛情戲真有點傷人呢12/25 00:14
推 gotohikaru:感覺得你們兩個立場還比較相同耶XD12/25 00:14
→ yashien:雖然我很愛美元 但官網真的有些非美元不看 其實我覺得這樣12/25 00:14
→ yashien:不是很好 總有一天一定會吵起來 才會PO這篇文章12/25 00:14
推 panchi:推wings2u2me大+1 細水長流的蘊釀感...12/25 00:15
→ gotohikaru:推wings2u2me 每次看LIVE文都覺得大家好急啊12/25 00:16
推 misaiya:我也是,我希望美元的感情是由日常生活的點滴累積而成,就12/25 00:16
→ misaiya:像邦茜的愛情及邦美的兄妹情一樣。如果是經由某一事件才觸 → misaiya:發美元之間突飛猛進的話,我覺得特意作梗給美元得太明顯了
→ wings2u2me:笑 非美元不看的說法 我都跟大家一樣擔心 可能很多人12/25 00:16
→ wings2u2me:不知道怎麼表達心裏的難受感 就用比較直接的情緒來表達12/25 00:16
→ wings2u2me:現在光陰的故事用很多事件來帶動劇情 可是奇妙的 美元 12/25 00:17
→ wings2u2me:的部份我覺得不太需要 一句話 一個微笑 就可以牽動很多 12/25 00:18 → wings2u2me:感情 例如如果當一美落榜時 孫媽一直抱怨後 一元沒說 12/25 00:18
→ wings2u2me:任何話 只是陪在一美身邊 給她一個笑容 這不就無言交
→ wings2u2me:代很多深層的感覺了嗎?這根本也不會影響主戲 卻會讓我
→ wings2u2me:們感受到一元這一年來的改變 與滴水穿頑石的力量
→ OoJudyoO:有時不是只有抱怨 其實是善意的建議而已就被酸 不太理性 12/25 00:18
推 summertrees:可是一元本來就先是茜茜復邦的朋友,然後才是一美 12/25 00:18
→ OoJudyoO:推wings2u2me大+1 細水長流的蘊釀感...+1+1 12/25 00:18
→ bubblet:推OoJudyoO大 至少看見文章情緒的背後 少酸人嘛~12/25 00:19
→ summertrees:他們的交集其實就是牽在復邦茜茜上頭啊,一美對一元12/25 00:19
→ summertrees:只是抱著普通朋友,比拍雄還不親吧?怎麼可能一句話微笑 推 pommpomm:之前其實對於這種言論大家都算了,只是今天剛好滿到引爆12/25 00:19
→ pommpomm:點了吧 XD 多到一個程度這樣...12/25 00:19
推 tomo16248:但他們還沒在一起阿@@ 對一美來說 幫了邦茜後 根本是歸012/25 00:20
→ summertrees:對一美來說事情結束任務達成,各走各的,目前是這樣啊12/25 00:21
推 bubblet:但是 從一美來看 他們經歷了 假戲的火花 難道火花之後12/25 00:21
→ bubblet:就熊熊降到冰點嗎?12/25 00:22
→ wings2u2me:夏樹大 如果你說比拍雄還不如 那前面真的都變成假閃光12/25 00:22
推 tomo16248:今天一元不是還是有幫一美嗎@@ 12/25 00:22
→ jackie1882:算個 不是朋友的朋友 一美不是本來就這麼認為嗎... 12/25 00:23
→ summertrees:對一美是這樣啊,她最多覺得議員不是壞人而已(攤手) 12/25 00:23
→ wings2u2me:哈哈 推文真的很碎 噗噗 那先看id 推 pommpomm:我會先把要打的話一次打完,先不要按y送出,然後最後一次 12/25 00:23
→ pommpomm:推(按↑),這樣會比較有段落 → bubblet:用/wings2u2me 這樣 應該比較方便找推文XD (id以此類推XD) 12/25 00:23
→ wings2u2me:可還記得一美看過一元唯三次的內心坦白 一元知道一美 12/25 00:23
→ wings2u2me:最深的愛與痛 一元在孫家經歷最溫暖的家 → tomo16248:一元這邊其實如果太積極 一美那邊還是不會有進展的12/25 00:23
→ summertrees:就說前面是事件觸發的偶然曖昧啊,真閃光應該在後頭12/25 00:23
→ pommpomm:前面的確是假閃光阿,郎有情妹無意阿...12/25 00:24
→ jackie1882:而且前面的閃光 其實一美根本不願意吧= ="""12/25 00:24
→ tomo16248:我認為現在是要鋪一美引起的變化12/25 00:24
→ pommpomm:頂多外加 爹娘敲邊鼓12/25 00:24
→ tomo16248:沒錯 現在一美被親的多不甘願 真正閃光的確在後頭12/25 00:25
→ wings2u2me:其實如果講閃光 是我們感受上的看法 就互動來說 他們12/25 00:25
→ wings2u2me:參予了對方內心 這是比戀愛更珍貴的相遇12/25 00:26
推 summertrees:一美怕爹娘"用情太深",還急忙破梗 XDDDD12/25 00:26
推 bubblet:推wings2u2me大 所以這樣不可能回到只是"不是朋友的朋友"12/25 00:26
→ summertrees:一美是參與了一元的內心,但一元有參與一美的內心嗎?12/25 00:26
→ summertrees:所以現在只是一元有動心,一美覺得很噁心這樣啊12/25 00:28
→ bubblet:一元在孫家的這幾場戲 一元與孫家人的互動 至少讓一美更認12/25 00:28
→ bubblet:識一元好的方面吧~ → jackie1882:但是一美天然呆啊!!!!!她哪了解這些 只是雞婆的個性... 12/25 00:28
推 wings2u2me:對 在成長的過程 奇妙地把這個第一次保留給對方 12/25 00:28
→ summertrees:一美不是說可以結束無聊又噁心的戲碼?一元就爆氣XDD 12/25 00:28
推 newdill:總覺得劇組刪掉很多劇情,看起戲來有些都不太順 12/25 00:28
→ wings2u2me:噁心是針對追求的舉動 而不是一元內心的坦白 這坦白無 12/25 00:29
→ wings2u2me:關乎愛情 而是一元對人生的想法看法跟渴望..一美的不要 → wings2u2me:open是這個部分動搖了
→ summertrees:所以我說一美現在頂多認同一元不是壞人而已 12/25 00:29
→ bubblet:看一元披床單 聽一元跟孫爸談心 這些方面 應該都有進入一12/25 00:29
→ bubblet:美的心吧 不只不是壞人 應該有可以可以納入朋友範圍的價值 推 watercolor:我覺得大家的推文都可以寫成文章了。寫出來一起討論,12/25 00:29
→ watercolor:激盪的火花會更多吧……也比抱怨要好一些。@@" 12/25 00:30 → OoJudyoO:當牽涉到主觀價值認知時 再怎麼爭辯都沒有一定的結論吧12/25 00:30
推 pommpomm:這篇推文很三波九折(咦?) 話題一直變 XDD12/25 00:30
→ summertrees:一美眼前並沒有對一元的內心心動有感覺啊,頂多同情吧12/25 00:30
推 minamumumi:感覺上推文裡大家對曖昧跟閃光的定義已經有認知分歧了12/25 00:31
→ wings2u2me:對 不只是壞人 呆一美也慢慢看見一元不為人知的一面12/25 00:31
推 tomo16248:但你如果注意 一元已經加入了他們的團體12/25 00:31
→ tomo16248:之前很多時候小朋友聚集在一起的時候一元可不一定都在 推 killualove:推"當牽涉到主觀價值認知時,再爭辯都沒有一定的結論"12/25 00:31
→ killualove:所以差不多該打住了吧...XD 推 quiyu:這..雖然一美有進一步認識一元 現在只算是open了眼跟耳 還沒 12/25 00:32
→ quiyu:打開她的心讓一元共同參與 可能要等到如編劇所說得邦茜苦戀 → quiyu:一元才有機會
→ pommpomm:現在只要是有互動就變閃了? XD
→ wings2u2me:這一面的互動跟交流是坦白從寬之前就已經建立起來的 12/25 00:32
→ tomo16248:所以現在一元出現對一美的小小動作都被解釋為很閃了 12/25 00:32
→ pommpomm:光陰的觀眾,好多長ID阿... 12/25 00:32
→ yashien:我是不是不該PO文阿 哈哈 反而讓大家又討論起來了> <12/25 00:33
推 bubblet:其實我覺得~這篇的推文 有讓我漸漸在腦中補完整劇情架構XD12/25 00:33
→ wings2u2me:哈哈 真的好三波九折的推文喔 看來的確是對感情交流的12/25 00:33
→ wings2u2me:認知不同 才有對是否連貫有如此分歧的看法 → killualove:結論:這就是人參哪!12/25 00:33
推 summertrees:長ID 攻餡 XDDD12/25 00:33
→ samission:一元在一美心裡都還在朋友的界線 連友達已上戀人未滿 都12/25 00:33
→ samission:還不算 加上初吻被偷了 也不相信一元真的對她有意思 12/25 00:34 → samission:心不算開吧 → quiyu:現在我也覺得美元很淡 淡到看不見了 我的解讀是兩個人彼此的12/25 00:34
→ quiyu:感覺都沒什麼變化 也沒有契機影響 → samission:有啊 編劇有透露了 邦茜苦戀就是美元的契機 12/25 00:35
推 misaiya:我雖支持美元配,但超不希望看見為美元配而美元配的劇情12/25 00:34
→ misaiya:如果是因為後來自強一村只剩美、元、拍,兩人才在一起的話 → misaiya:如果到時美元配配得太刻意鑿痕太深,我會有點失望吧~
→ summertrees:一元目前在一美眼裡就是普通朋友吧,所以一元要按一美12/25 00:35
→ summertrees:的步調,要配合她慢慢來..... 推 pommpomm:「他不是喜歡我,是喜歡我家」希望會做到這部份的辯證12/25 00:35
→ wings2u2me:bullet 妳馮上人啊(讚美) 這麼碎的推文也能 辛苦了12/25 00:35
推 minamumumi:wings大應該是指現在連"單向"都看不見~不是要看雙向吧 12/25 00:35
→ summertrees:yashien大,好的討論是好物啊 XDDD 12/25 00:36
→ tomo16248:可是一元自己都說 他都快沒招了XD 還要怎辦XD 12/25 00:36
→ tomo16248:還不如解釋 一元再依一美的角度或腳步 慢慢打進她 推 evaliao:應該是有人太期待美元能互動 像這集為復邦餞行沒坐旁邊或 12/25 00:37
→ evaliao:群體時沒互動到吧 不像前兩集這樣有直接互動吧 我想一元只 → evaliao:是把攻勢暫緩而已 但這小圈圈一元以經常參與了 算是進步了
推 pommpomm:長ID好多,看了頭好痛 XDDDD12/25 00:37
→ killualove:這集以咩沒坐幾摳旁邊很正常啊 XD 推 wings2u2me:mina大 謝謝 感情的鋪陳不一定要雙向阿 滴水穿石是單向12/25 00:37
→ wings2u2me:等到一美因邦茜苦戀而轉向時 這個單向過程就水到渠成 → wings2u2me:如果中間沒鋪陳 卻要等到事件來觸發 反而沒有mag姐說的
→ wings2u2me:長期經營的扎實感
推 samission:所以茜說 不能用招 要用心 所以現在一元就是要讓一美感12/25 00:38
→ samission:受到他的愛啊12/25 00:38
→ yashien:我只能說大家都好入戲XDDDDD12/25 00:38
→ pommpomm:話說,乙咩是木頭嗎?一年耶...幾摳放電一年都沒被電到?12/25 00:39
→ pommpomm:真的是許毅源戀愛史的大挫敗 XDDD12/25 00:39
推 summertrees:昨天拍照時一元主動站一美旁邊,一美卻只轉頭恭喜朱磊12/25 00:39
→ summertrees:這就是美元配的最新進度 XDDDD → tomo16248:幾摳不一定在那一年 好好努力實行孫爸的諄諄教誨XD 12/25 00:39
→ tomo16248:不然 一整年一直放電 一美不就焦了 推 newdill:可以預見,編劇可能在近日又會浮出水面解釋了XD 12/25 00:40
推 watercolor:我也覺得這一年沒有說的可能性很多,不用太急著看著鋪 12/25 00:40
→ watercolor:陳或看到互動。畢竟一美確實沒有打開她的心。 → summertrees:一美是射手座的,我可以保證真的有這麼遲鈍XDDDDD 12/25 00:40
→ jackie1882:唔...突然想像到 被電到燒焦的一美....12/25 00:40
→ samission:因為就是天然呆啊,乙咩目前為止,都還覺得一元是朋友12/25 00:40
→ wings2u2me:這一年一元用心守候 鏡頭卻一了無痕跡 沒有說服力啊12/25 00:40
→ wings2u2me:所以我才會覺得如果一些細節來表達一美跟一元在生活上12/25 00:41
→ wings2u2me:相處的小細節 會讓後面因事件而觸發的感情變化更自然些12/25 00:42
→ killualove:XD 編劇應該會覺得這篇推文很難搞12/25 00:41
→ evaliao:一美是木頭沒錯(指) 之前還一直覺得一元是演戲 你說咧 XD12/25 00:41
→ summertrees:一元會電力耗弱,衰竭身亡..... XDDDD12/25 00:41
推 misaiya:畢從不是朋友的朋友到男女朋友是很大的差距,如果只因單一12/25 00:41
→ misaiya:事件就可跨越這麼大的距離,那就真的變得有點偶像劇了 推 bubblet:說起來~在被口白蓋掉的一年裡 應該也有同伴解釋過演戲的事12/25 00:41
→ bubblet:吧~~~不然打球的時候 拍雄他們還在鬧的勒 → samission:ㄟ哪天乙咩真的恍然大悟 那表情 應該很讚12/25 00:41
→ samission:而且這也是等他們老夫老妻時 可以拿出來磕牙的話題 → tomo16248:邦茜會被覺得完整 畢竟是前面已經有1X年了 別緊張12/25 00:43
推 summertrees:打球的時候有,朱磊拍照的時候也有啊,一元單向動作XD 12/25 00:43
→ tomo16248:美元說實在才剛剛剛開始呢__ 12/25 00:43
→ jackie1882:小細節之後應該也是會慢慢鋪陳出來 目前太多大事了.... 12/25 00:44
→ summertrees:畢竟這一年是咻一聲就過了,能帶出多少戲? 12/25 00:44
→ wings2u2me:水色大 一美沒打開心 只是沒接受一元作為戀人角色 可是 12/25 00:44
→ wings2u2me:他們的確交心了 不是為了追求或被追求 → samission:這一年說不定一元都在努力打進孫家 我想只有一美本人 12/25 00:44
→ samission:還傻傻分不清楚 其實孫爸是了然於心吧12/25 00:45
→ summertrees:一元:我當初追你追了一年妳都不理我.... (畫圈圈)12/25 00:45
→ summertrees:一美:哪有?!妳哪有追我?!(手插腰)12/25 00:45
推 misaiya:一美:啥?你那時在追我哦?12/25 00:45
→ misaiya:一美:你那時不是還喜歡茜茜? 一元:你鬼擋牆加鬼遮眼囉12/25 00:47
→ wings2u2me:夏樹大 所以我說不用什麼事件的戲啊 只要跟著現在劇情12/25 00:45
→ wings2u2me:加幾個鏡頭 跟幾句話也可以12/25 00:45
→ summertrees:我覺得兩集各有一場籃球跟一起照相就有了啦 :P12/25 00:46
推 pommpomm:過年搶禮物那段也不錯 XD 雖然一美明顯狀況外...12/25 00:47
→ summertrees:我覺得有而妳覺得不算,這就是根本點嗎? XDDDD12/25 00:47
→ pommpomm:許家母子那段沒拍真的很可惜...(有感而發)12/25 00:48
推 wings2u2me:籃球那場有 合照感覺只是站在一起 但旁白之後就完全沒12/25 00:48
→ wings2u2me:有 這一年完全空白 → samission:推藍球場那段 老鼠也是啊 一元是一直在等候一美開竅12/25 00:48
→ summertrees:喔,對,.3過年搶禮物那段 還一美完全狀況外XDDDDD 12/25 00:48
推 bubblet:籃球跟照相 都是一年前呀 演戲時; 時間...過了一年 咻~ 12/25 00:49
→ samission:嗯 那段是最能表現出一元對這段感情的認真 12/25 00:49
推 killualove:可是如果這一年都沒啥大事 就不用特地強調平常互動吧 12/25 00:49
→ summertrees:因為狀況沒有改變吧,一美一直狀況外,一元沒招了 12/25 00:50
→ killualove:我覺得啦! 許家母子沒拍很可惜+1 12/25 00:50
→ wings2u2me:就是定義的不同 所以才會有分歧嘛 12/25 00:50
→ killualove:對啊 所以我早一點的推文就說啦 就就是人參咩12/25 00:50
推 bubblet:有說不是要強調 只是拍主戲時小小帶到呀~ 推 pommpomm:王偉忠:1982年就這樣過去了,許毅源還是三不五時到孫家12/25 00:50
→ pommpomm:吃飯,當不成女婿,卻變成孫爸最好的酒友。也常常把孫一12/25 00:51
→ pommpomm:美逗的氣呼呼的。 (這樣會好點嗎?) → killualove:每個人吃的人參都不一樣 主觀意識也不相同 SO 停吧XD12/25 00:51
→ summertrees:咻一聲過去是大家都這樣,也不光美元啊,現在邦茜苦戀12/25 00:51
→ summertrees:又要一美出動了,那一元肯定會幫她的,所以預備備中... → wings2u2me:今天買了人蔘雞 心情不好 吃不下 > <12/25 00:51
→ tomo16248:如果這一年沒互動 一美都考不上了 如果還有互動12/25 00:51
→ tomo16248:孫媽應該會氣"使"XDDD → killualove:p大推的那句感覺不錯~XD12/25 00:52
→ misaiya:我看可能要一美再次受傷一元背她送醫院一美才會再次開竅XD12/25 00:52
→ yashien:pommpomm大 其實這樣加就好很多了XD12/25 00:52
→ wings2u2me:但邦茜很完整啊..而美元前面蘊積就像突然洩洪一樣 漏光12/25 00:52
→ wings2u2me:如果就算水庫平靜無波 偶爾有點漣漪的話 也是可以提醒 → wings2u2me:有滿滿的愛在深層 而不是感覺前面的船過無痕 重新來過
→ samission:如果要寫那麼細 那邦茜戀的就會說 怎麼沒有多寫一點茜 12/25 00:53
→ samission:這一年的委曲求全 為什麼幾句就帶過了 一樣的意思ㄅㄟ → summertrees:啊因為美元都是跟著邦茜動的啊,這集就是邦茜有變動 12/25 00:54
→ summertrees:所以美元可以想見也將要有動作了這樣 → tomo16248:現在重點應該是有人覺得有漣漪 有人覺得沒有吧= =||| 12/25 00:54
→ wings2u2me:嗯 我自己是屬於那種沒有 因為不連貫 無法說服自己的12/25 00:55
→ wings2u2me:那種12/25 00:55
→ samission:下週復邦去軍校 重點就要放在美元了12/25 00:55
推 pommpomm:那就只能自行在腦內組裝完畢了 XD12/25 00:56
→ summertrees:不可能重新來過啦,擔心太多,凡走過必留下痕跡12/25 00:56
→ wings2u2me:我說的細 不是細節交代清楚 而是細緻的微小細節 日劇很12/25 00:56
→ wings2u2me:常用的手法 藏在劇情裡12/25 00:56
推 bubblet:sa大怎麼知道?12/25 00:57
→ summertrees:一元從流氓,破壞邦茜的壞人,不是朋友的朋友到朋友12/25 00:57
→ summertrees:根本就是一步步逼近當中啊.... → pommpomm:我懂,wings大所說得應該是一起生活的軌跡吧?12/25 00:57
→ bubblet:再推wings2u2me大XD12/25 00:57
→ wings2u2me:pommpomm 也只能如此了 這麼囉唆也只是嘗試表達美元配12/25 00:58
→ wings2u2me:抱怨背後的心思而已 推 OoJudyoO:其實大家的推文都很優 使我思考到很多層面12/25 00:58
→ samission:編劇給的小雷啊 邦茜苦戀 是美元的推手 苦戀要開始了 12/25 00:58
推 pommpomm:我是覺得一元在這一年中也很難有動作(一美是考生),但會 12/25 00:59
→ pommpomm:運用團體活動,製造相處機會。 (自動補完) 12/25 00:59
→ summertrees:現在還沒到那個點,一元繼續無招,一美仍然狀況外 12/25 00:59
→ wings2u2me:pommpomm大 謝謝 就是一起生活的軌跡 手拙 表達不出來 12/25 00:59
→ summertrees:我覺得說不定過兩集就會用回顧的方式或言談中勾出來 12/25 01:00
推 misaiya:其實再糾結細節也無濟於事,我只能自己想像美元私下有互動 12/25 01:00
→ misaiya:但台面上裝不熟,安慰安慰自己一下了12/25 01:00
→ samission:歸給製作費用吧, 這樣想心裡會不會好一點 連許媽跟一元12/25 01:00
→ samission:生活的軌跡 都給砍掉了12/25 01:01
→ wings2u2me:我的想像力很差 拜託寫番外的能手補足吧12/25 01:01
推 killualove:裝不熟......也還好吧 他們就這樣啊XD12/25 01:01
→ summertrees:所以我一貫的原則就是等著編劇說故事,等故事結束再評12/25 01:01
→ misaiya:K大,就說我自我安慰想像一下嘛~12/25 01:02
→ summertrees:他們目前真的沒有真閃光和火花,所以不用裝吧? :P12/25 01:02
→ bubblet:mi........XDDD 也太欺騙自己了吧XDDDDDDD12/25 01:03
→ tomo16248:至少不像沒有描寫朱磊生活的軌跡 就迸出個女友來 XDD12/25 01:03
推 wings2u2me:想想也覺得奇妙 這麼碎的戀情(跟我們推文有得比) 竟然12/25 01:04
→ wings2u2me:回想這麼大 也許就是因為有想像空間12/25 01:04
→ bubblet:可是 因為朱磊一年離開家到清華去唸書阿~不在眷村的範圍內12/25 01:04
→ bubblet:所以合理多了XD → starling666:我二對都看,雖然較支持邦茜,但我會想看二對來比較12/25 01:04
→ starling666:那對戲份多或少倒是不會計較,畢竟戲是看整体才有感覺 → summertrees:朱磊的女友真讓我有種淡淡的哀傷 orz 12/25 01:04
→ misaiya:我知道這樣很阿Q,不然怎辦?難道一直糾結細節沒拍出來嗎? 12/25 01:04
→ wings2u2me:哈哈 朱磊真的...莫名其妙就迸出一個女友 又變得開朗 12/25 01:04
推 killualove:推tomo大 XD 好孩子好可憐 半句都沒交代QQ 12/25 01:05
推 OoJudyoO:淡淡的哀傷+1 12/25 01:05
→ wings2u2me:可是當大家越來越喜歡他們時 對於細節的要求胃口越大12/25 01:05
推 pommpomm:孫媽:幾摳阿,我朱到你是很喜歡我們家一美。阿可素一美12/25 01:05
→ pommpomm:要聯考捏,你就等一等,等他考完在給他追好不好?12/25 01:05
→ pommpomm:以上,就是這一年沒有互動的原因。(好吧,打我吧XDD)12/25 01:05
→ killualove:看到朱磊的女友有種淡淡的哀傷+1 XD 不過好孩子還是要12/25 01:05
→ killualove:幸福就是了...^^ → starling666:可能是進過中視討論區看用那一排的標題會有點敏感罷了12/25 01:05
推 bubblet:(打) 孫媽怎麼會知道幾摳真的喜歡一美 她知道的真相是他12/25 01:07
→ bubblet:們一起演戲騙人呀12/25 01:07
推 pommpomm:XDDDDDDDDD12/25 01:07
推 misaiya:中視討論區我只看編劇和雅妍的文章還有別人分享的GIF圖檔12/25 01:07
→ misaiya:其它一律無視...連身為美元支持者的我都覺得太超過了 → wings2u2me:pomm大 一整個想讓你變成扁扁(團團圓圓人類表親) 孫一12/25 01:07
→ wings2u2me:美還要重考一年耶12/25 01:08
→ OoJudyoO:推pommpomm大你寫的對話好可愛 讓我可以藉想像來安慰自己12/25 01:08
→ killualove:就別提中視討論區了...那是用來抓圖的好地方這樣(煙)12/25 01:08
→ bubblet:討論區的情緒留在討論區發洩啦 囧> → jackie1882:那裡...算討論區嗎......
→ bubblet:.......... 開始想去開開眼界 XDDDDD12/25 01:10
推 summertrees:偉忠哥:這一年孫一美忙著聯考,一元很難得遇到她 12/25 01:08
→ summertrees:偶爾遇到,一美總是瞪他一眼,這件事讓一元很苦手.... → killualove:很苦手 夏樹大學過日文喔?XDDDD 12/25 01:09
→ bubblet:推summertrees大 XDDD (幾摳舔一下手:好苦 ) 12/25 01:09
→ summertrees:killualove大,學過一點點 XDDDD12/25 01:10
→ yashien:哈哈 summertrees寫的好有趣 XD12/25 01:10
→ killualove:哈哈 因為我也會 所以看到這樣用覺得很妙XD12/25 01:10
→ bubblet:而且我覺得summertrees大的這句旁白放進劇情沒有違和感XD12/25 01:11
推 summertrees:希望那句旁白有消解一點怨念? XDDDD12/25 01:13
→ summertrees:killualove大,苦惱不知如何下手嘛 XDDDD12/25 01:14
推 acappella423:大家講開 好開心!!12/25 01:14
推 samission:推講開 所以我愛ptt啦12/25 01:15
推 OoJudyoO:這篇推文默默的就快要爆了只能說大家都很關心美元進展12/25 01:16
→ OoJudyoO:推講開+1一起討論劇情真的很有參與感呢 也能紓發一些想法12/25 01:17
推 summertrees:那就讓她爆吧? 一元:爆吧! 一美:(瞪一眼,踩一腳,跑掉)12/25 01:17
→ yashien:所以這篇文還是有達到我的本意厚...大家講開就好: )12/25 01:18
推 tomo16248:那就恭敬不如從命的推一下啦XDDDDDD 我愛光陰的故事~~12/25 01:18
推 jackie1882:那我也要來偷偷推一下...12/25 01:19
推 watercolor:睡前幫爆推。XD 12/25 01:19
推 bubblet:!!! 12/25 01:19
→ acopam:怎麼沒有人接me fire(咦...有點真是不吉利) 12/25 01:20
推 minamumumi:爆~~ \⊙▽⊙/ 12/25 01:20
→ OoJudyoO:討論劇情總比抱怨和爭吵更來的有意義 PTT是個好所在啊~~ 12/25 01:20
→ jmwang40:啊!!我的推一直出不來啦!!幫爆~^^ 12/25 01:20
推 killualove:一緒に楽しみましょうね ( ̄▽ ̄#)﹏﹏ 12/25 01:20
→ bubblet:我有搶到嗎?XDDDD 本來要搶99的說XD 看到99不見了害我緊12/25 01:20
→ bubblet:張起來12/25 01:20
推 summertrees:爆~~~ ★,:*:‧\( ̄▽ ̄)/‧:*‧°★12/25 01:20
→ minamumumi:要怎摸知道有沒有搶到 ?___?12/25 01:21
→ misaiya:不過沒來參與討論的會不會明天又發文抱怨文呢?12/25 01:21
推 jackie1882:好像搶到了 因為我推完98...12/25 01:21
→ OoJudyoO:真的爆了!! 美元超能力 走到哪都行XD12/25 01:21
→ yashien:這篇居然被推爆了! 感謝大家的厚愛XDDDDD12/25 01:21
推 wings2u2me:噗嗤 真的是講開 就是雞同鴨講 但我們是養在同一圈的12/25 01:21
→ bubblet:接 misaiya大 因為這篇推文很碎XDDD12/25 01:21
推 gotohikaru:大家太厲害了XD12/25 01:22
→ yashien:我就知道ptt比較理性 所以才會在這講 官網我還不敢PO哩12/25 01:22
→ bubblet:真的~~這篇很多人都能夠把想法講的很完整 (崇拜推)12/25 01:22
推 wings2u2me:看有沒有人願意整理一下 好痛苦的推文 不忍重看 頭痛12/25 01:23
推 quiyu:逛一圈回來 這篇不斷打架推文居然爆了@@12/25 01:23
推 minamumumi:每個人看戲的想法跟切入點都不一樣~交流一下也不錯 12/25 01:24
推 OoJudyoO:27集ROUND2現在才15頁 這裡已有20頁了XD 12/25 01:24
推 acappella423:的確 整理推文可以讓大家的想法更清楚得表達出來 12/25 01:25
推 summertrees:是 23頁喔 XDDDD 12/25 01:25
→ acappella423:不過這可是個大工程呢!! 12/25 01:25
→ bubblet:XDDDDDDDDD 12/25 01:26
推 watercolor:我也想看這篇的推文@@ 12/25 01:26
推 pommpomm:洗完澡補推12/25 01:26
→ summertrees:果然美元是收視率保證? XDDDDDD12/25 01:26
→ pommpomm:MAG編看到這篇會頭痛吧 XD 主題很難抓 XDDD12/25 01:26
推 quiyu:我也很想看 往回翻了幾頁 只能說我盡力了...12/25 01:27
推 jackie1882:換我去洗澡12/25 01:27
推 jmwang40:quiyu大大, 我懂你的痛苦... 我也盡力了...(拍拍)12/25 01:27
→ summertrees:討論很破碎,主題一直變,MAG編會抓頭髮 XDDDD12/25 01:28
推 gotohikaru:這篇聊了兩個小時耶 超強@▽@/12/25 01:28
推 OoJudyoO:其實不算打架啦XD 只是被打槍被點穴再互相幫忙找解藥~~12/25 01:29
推 summertrees:喔,中間還有朱磊來插花.... XDDDD12/25 01:30
推 koinic:我試著看了幾頁推文 有點亂耶 誰來整理一下 哈~12/25 01:33
推 pommpomm:只有原PO能整理吧...意見紛雜+一堆長ID 的確實很碎 XDDD12/25 01:35
推 killualove:也不用整理了吧 用/來搜尋ID就會好看一點12/25 01:36
→ yashien:所以要我整理嗎 哈哈 我來試看看12/25 01:36
→ killualove:整理成一篇 結果底下可能又會引起熱烈討論XD12/25 01:36
→ killualove:這樣就一直無限迴圈了( ̄▽ ̄#)﹏﹏ 12/25 01:37
→ killualove:如果想要好看一點的 用/搜尋ID 這樣會特別標示喔~ 12/25 01:38
→ makki:看的好亂~~ 12/25 01:38
推 wings2u2me:再來添亂 本次討論很大的收穫是人際溝通... 12/25 01:40
推 bubblet:我可以幫忙把鎖碎的推文放在一起啦XD 12/25 01:41
推 pommpomm:就把幾個打架的推文理順了,應該不用在發一篇啦 12/25 01:41
→ pommpomm:只是要設停止推文線 XD 12/25 01:41
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※ 編輯: bubblet 來自: 118.169.19.118 (12/25 02:57)
※ 編輯: bubblet 來自: 118.169.19.118 (12/25 03:04)
推 pommpomm:哇賽 大工程 <( ̄▽ ̄)b 12/25 11:25
推 quiyu:辛苦了m(_ _)m 不打架的推文容易閱讀多囉~~^^ 12/25 11:30
推 evaliao:原PO辛苦了!!!!!!!! 12/25 11:44
→ cherry1983:超辛苦的大工程~ 昨天幫忙帶小孩沒和大家一起討論真可 12/25 12:59
→ cherry1983:惜 謝謝你讓沒跟上的大家能看得清楚 12/25 12:59
推 samission:感謝bubblet大 非常完整且易讀 12/25 13:18
→ bubblet: 羞(# ̄▽ ̄#) (幸好早上沒有課....XD) 12/25 15:24
推 acopam:原po辛苦了 12/25 15:46
推 summertrees:bubblet大真的辛苦了~ 真的好清楚了!XD 12/25 17:09
推 watercolor:整理辛苦了>"< 雖然看完有一些想法,不過還是再看幾集 12/25 17:47
→ watercolor:再來整理會比較好>"< 12/25 17:48
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