龍馬傳 #43 船中八策 - 日劇

By Erin
at 2011-01-12T21:59

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船中有八廁^^ 不用急XD

第四十三集

為了討論日本的將來，四位有力諸侯聚集在京都，而山內容堂（近藤正臣飾）

也列席其中。龍馬（福山雅治飾）與後藤（青木崇高飾）前往京都，向容堂

(詳細劇情請按 \)
說明大政奉還的事情。可惜會議在各說各話中，失去了方向並草草結束，容堂

也因為牙疼而速速返回土佐，讓龍馬等人撲了個空。

薩摩派中岡（上川隆也飾）來邀請後藤前去會談，沒想到薩摩竟然願意與土佐

聯手，致力於實現大政奉還，但條件是如果計畫失敗，土佐就必須一同出兵討幕。

龍馬在船上所寫的船中八策，深深感動了中岡，後來也成為明治政府的基本理念...

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All Comments

By Erin
at 2011-01-17T00:55

八...八廁?! (捏鼻

By Noah
at 2011-01-20T02:06

傳說的四閒侯~~~~>_<

By Jacky
at 2011-01-24T12:50

這集會超熱血!!!!!!!

By Megan
at 2011-01-29T08:01

容堂公閒太久牙痛？XD

By Tracy
at 2011-02-01T16:03

山內容堂是在擠青春痘嗎...XD

By Necoo
at 2011-02-05T03:51

四賢侯會議?

By Erin
at 2011-02-08T02:46

容堂公牙齒痛XDDD

By Ingrid
at 2011-02-09T14:08

原來是牙痛...^^|||

By Mary
at 2011-02-09T15:38

一定是之前太常去找家茂吃太多甜食XDDD

By Hardy
at 2011-02-14T00:46

龍馬單身赴任阿龍寄情SP 槍法大進 XDDD

By Hedy
at 2011-02-17T04:27

阿龍的家人沒人照顧?

By Sarah
at 2011-02-21T21:20

容堂公OS：為了日本的未來，應該要先治好我的牙！

By Ingrid
at 2011-02-24T23:44

容堂公真的很妙....

By Suhail Hany
at 2011-02-27T01:38

容堂公1827~久光1817~松平1828~伊達1818~~~結果劇中.....

By Connor
at 2011-03-01T08:27

「給京都的女人買什麼京都紀念品啊」 XDXD

By Anthony
at 2011-03-02T02:54

沒有反應，只是個老頭

By Sierra Rose
at 2011-03-06T00:53

怎麼覺得有個人長得好像料理東西軍的三宅@@

By Jack
at 2011-03-07T10:12

龍馬此時文曲星上身文思泉湧狂作文

By Ingrid
at 2011-03-10T09:11

其實這齣的兩大笑點其實是彌太郎跟容堂公......XDD

By Hedy
at 2011-03-13T16:19

海援分公司嗎~~~

By Hedy
at 2011-03-14T15:48

傳說中的"船中八策"出現啦!!!!

By Candice
at 2011-03-16T02:04

西鄉:我是真的高橋克實啦...居然變成假的三宅XDDD

By Callum
at 2011-03-19T09:45

龍馬:這是我的第一篇文章也是洗腦後藤的第一步

By Kelly
at 2011-03-22T21:00

後藤越來越退化成猿人啦XDDD

By John
at 2011-03-23T19:04

及川光博！？

By John
at 2011-03-24T07:22

後藤：龍馬你的字太醜了，我看不懂你在寫什麼....冏rz

By Daph Bay
at 2011-03-27T04:40

後藤很識貨啊

By Isabella
at 2011-04-01T01:43

後藤真的越看越像老虎!

By Dinah
at 2011-04-03T19:32

XDDDDD 最嗨的彌太郎來囉XDDD

By Vanessa
at 2011-04-07T20:42

雪茄越抽越上手的彌太郎XDDD

By Aaliyah
at 2011-04-10T22:19

XDDD

By Quintina
at 2011-04-12T16:31

岩崎主任你現在才知道啊~~~

By Jessica
at 2011-04-16T15:24

後藤花錢也好兇猛

By Sandy
at 2011-04-18T10:33

彌太郎要知道錢欠得越多講話就可以越大聲 ex.米國

By Annie
at 2011-04-22T07:06

糟糕~~~要放棄搞笑之路了~~~

By Ophelia
at 2011-04-26T20:44

彌太郎熱血了XDDDDDD

By Andrew
at 2011-05-01T16:40

彌太郎：古拉法我也想要躺著賺！快點教我當大商人！

By Ivy
at 2011-05-04T06:15

這個大久保，應該會跳到桌子上跳舞吧...XD

By Heather
at 2011-05-04T11:35

「船中八策乃兄弟我所獨創」（大誤）

By Hardy
at 2011-05-07T22:54

這版本的大久保好帥XD~~~

By Necoo
at 2011-05-12T18:39

葛拉佛對吉本興業的創始人說的話怎麼可以認真...(誤)XDDD

By Mia
at 2011-05-16T11:16

「彌太郎大人，學習大商人需要30天，還要50貫，可以嗎？」

By Callum
at 2011-05-19T00:31

慶喜噴口水噴好多次XD

By Joe
at 2011-05-20T14:39

彌太郎好像也噴很多次口水了說...XD

By Kama
at 2011-05-25T02:53

利ﾐｯﾁｰ~~~~~~~~~~~~~>///<~~~~~~~~~~~

By Emily
at 2011-05-28T10:55

開會感覺沒人鳥慶喜 ?

By Dora
at 2011-05-28T13:18

這版三傑中最弱的一隻萌物www~ (請自重)

By Jake
at 2011-05-31T08:42

2個泥棒嗎XD

By Bennie
at 2011-06-04T11:57

長州有會彈琴的高杉，土佐有會唱歌的龍馬，因此薩摩有個會跳
舞的大久保也不意外......XDD

By Hazel
at 2011-06-07T15:06

這變裝好像小偷XDD

By Kristin
at 2011-06-12T09:16

成功躲開新選組了 XD

By Margaret
at 2011-06-12T14:32

幕末的京都真的是殺氣重重
龍馬真的很愛逗近藤XD

By Catherine
at 2011-06-12T23:05

XDDD

By Michael
at 2011-06-13T13:15

這邊又出現一個大久保...(誤)

By Elma
at 2011-06-14T02:54

還故意惹新選組XDDD

By Audriana
at 2011-06-14T15:47

挖沖田總司講話了!

By Annie
at 2011-06-16T06:04

手槍咧XDDD

By Mason
at 2011-06-17T17:00

原田泰造好帥啊！

By Una
at 2011-06-18T14:20

果然有帶槍XDDD

By Victoria
at 2011-06-20T03:39

哪來的槍好賤XD

By Yedda
at 2011-06-22T23:54

由新選組來賠償XDDDD

By Lydia
at 2011-06-27T15:11

手槍終於出現了XDD

By Gilbert
at 2011-07-02T14:24

中岡超high的

By Candice
at 2011-07-03T21:14

那麼早就有相撲練習場哦...@@"
藤吉看起來像某諧星...

By Regina
at 2011-07-05T18:02

中岡好帥！
長州小力嗎XD

By Hedda
at 2011-07-09T23:30

龍馬作弊阿還拍老闆的囧rz臉

By Audriana
at 2011-07-11T02:04

........

By Megan
at 2011-07-11T15:59

前一秒還在跟新選組殺得天昏地暗
現在竟然在他們眼皮底下吃相撲火鍋XD

By Sarah
at 2011-07-13T12:11

BL了XDDD

By Ethan
at 2011-07-16T20:57

我一開始以為是Q太郎...不過不是

By Elizabeth
at 2011-07-18T14:42

陸奧:不是說要去看據點?

By Kristin
at 2011-07-22T07:11

NHK可以容許BL,卻沒有阿龍的 =0=+++

By Jacky
at 2011-07-23T14:27

真是給BL視聽眾的撒必思!

By Joseph
at 2011-07-23T18:13

有BL 卻沒有阿龍泡溫泉...QQ

By Jessica
at 2011-07-25T10:01

薩土聯盟啦

By Lauren
at 2011-07-30T00:48

推 CostaDelSol:NHK可以容許BL,卻沒有阿龍的 =0=+++ XDDDD

By Elma
at 2011-08-02T14:44

這段是 service 嗎？

By Cara
at 2011-08-04T05:43

這裡只是賣肉賣很大不是BL啦 XD~~

By Tristan Cohan
at 2011-08-08T00:09

變胖的後藤看起來真的很威猛(尤其是那個鬢角)

By Queena
at 2011-08-11T05:48

那個誰誰誰來把中岡跟龍馬相撲的背景加一下玫瑰花XDDD

By Hedwig
at 2011-08-14T23:13

我是覺得他做事很乾脆，有氣魄

By Leila
at 2011-08-15T03:07

這段太扯了啦連陸奧都變劍術高手龍馬傳裡新選組超悶...

By Agnes
at 2011-08-19T04:01

真的很悶Q__________Q

By Iris
at 2011-08-23T17:24

2次新選三巨頭都被龍馬幾乎1打3逃掉而且感覺無刀勝有刀!

By Isla
at 2011-08-26T07:56

這次有拿槍不算

By Carol
at 2011-08-31T07:12

新選組不都集體行動嗎，龍馬3個打N個，太猛啦了吧...^^?

By Vanessa
at 2011-09-02T21:28

上川隆也和福山雅治比相撲，真是服務女性觀眾 XD

By Carol
at 2011-09-07T06:36

長崎的藝伎比較正 ><

By James
at 2011-09-09T08:05

薩土會談~~~

By Annie
at 2011-09-13T22:55

中岡應援歌~ http://nicosound.anyap.info/tag/9j0v

By Mason
at 2011-09-17T04:23

每次都敗在這一點

By Liam
at 2011-09-19T16:48

薩土密約準備中

By Joe
at 2011-09-24T02:24

本頁最後一個【ようやくの】同盟をぎゅっ！【土佐】

By Frederica
at 2011-09-28T02:29

看到及川光博都會想看他交響情人夢上身...

By Belly
at 2011-09-30T20:00

nico好像被擋了不過還能聽聲音女史的歌都很有趣XD~

By Aaliyah
at 2011-10-04T14:48

這些人很好笑不成在武討就好了一直吵^^

By Dorothy
at 2011-10-08T16:20

我想到的是更壞掉的《曼哈頓愛情故事》裡的及川 XD

By Franklin
at 2011-10-09T00:38

這段會談精采，雙方都想把對方拉過來

By Kyle
at 2011-10-12T08:45

容堂: 喵的死後藤誰跟你說我會打幕府的 O皿O (本劇設計對白

By Valerie
at 2011-10-15T05:19

這版本的西鄉跟大久保很不像一起長大的好伙伴...=.=

By Candice
at 2011-10-17T01:28

古拉法也被龍馬說得了

By Valerie
at 2011-10-21T13:19

看起來很不熟

By Quanna
at 2011-10-25T12:25

哇彌太郎英文變強了

By Hedwig
at 2011-10-28T14:24

軍火?

By Cara
at 2011-11-02T13:38

西鄉應該打其他的算盤吧

By Yedda
at 2011-11-05T20:11

彌太郎是一臉呆滯吧:一句都聽不懂XDDD

By Rae
at 2011-11-08T13:54

這次會談位階真高龍馬果然一句話都插不上XD

By Doris
at 2011-11-12T22:44

所以說是三傑裡最弱的一萌物.....(逃)

By Thomas
at 2011-11-16T19:13

這屋子現在京都還在...二樓是展示間~~~

By Kyle
at 2011-11-17T17:32

Glover 哪時候被龍馬收服的啊0___0!?

By Noah
at 2011-11-18T23:13

接下來換中岡也被洗腦@@!!

By Irma
at 2011-11-22T16:57

Z鋼弾上演中大家的靈魂都來上身吧

By Eartha
at 2011-11-23T15:26

橫井又出現了...回憶裡...

By Genevieve
at 2011-11-27T19:13

橫井小楠在前面龍馬去松平春嶽那裏借錢有出現一下下

By Daph Bay
at 2011-11-29T09:34

中岡:龍馬....你背後好多人啊*_*

By Adele
at 2011-12-01T08:38

怎麼搞得好像貧民百萬富翁...

By Regina
at 2011-12-01T18:45

七是匯率八是憲法 0.0

By Annie
at 2011-12-02T03:00

很可惜的是到現在種姓制度還是存在日本政壇仍舊是旺族之後

By Elma
at 2011-12-05T21:46

穢多村依然是個無法抹滅的事實..

By Quintina
at 2011-12-09T21:00

死去的人都回來了

By Elma
at 2011-12-14T11:49

日本現在還是政治世家把持著政權啊../___\

By Audriana
at 2011-12-15T11:44

望族之後彌太郎表示:

By Noah
at 2011-12-16T01:35

CHANGE也只是演好玩的....

By Kama
at 2011-12-17T07:05

現代的日本政治跟世襲沒兩樣老爸死了換兒子出來選

By Tracy
at 2011-12-19T19:49

所以規則還是由這些人制定... 日本看女王教室天海的話感觸很深

By Quanna
at 2011-12-23T02:07

畢竟當時不能把所有貴族的權力全部取消不然不可能會實行吧

By Dorothy
at 2011-12-27T14:30

只能牽拖誰叫龍馬早夭

By David
at 2011-12-29T03:25

制度跟英國很像阿都有續留王族跟爵士貴族

By Caitlin
at 2012-01-03T00:10

CHANGE就是最明顯的老爸死了換兒子出來選的例子呀！

By Gilbert
at 2012-01-04T14:46

天海女王 6%的人才能獲得幸福米國某位人也有說過...

By Brianna
at 2012-01-05T14:57

又說得一個了>_<

By Gilbert
at 2012-01-07T19:28

又兩個被"相信我"收服了

By Connor
at 2012-01-08T07:40

中岡：〒△〒我感動到哭了

By Eden
at 2012-01-10T15:33

台灣就要看選民買不買帳了

By Ursula
at 2012-01-12T19:43

中岡被說得成穩健路線了嗎XDDD

By Iris
at 2012-01-15T11:08

藤吉、之後的阿元和商人眾代表權貴、武士階級以外的心聲

By Hedy
at 2012-01-19T20:04

在場三位後來都....

By Damian
at 2012-01-24T13:56

死亡Flag開始升到半空中了..........

By Ethan
at 2012-01-25T07:48

唉.....

By Agatha
at 2012-01-28T22:12

各藩有這麼好說話? 既得利益者會放棄手中的肥肉?

By Rae
at 2012-01-29T23:29

大久保剛剛好像...XDDDDD
彌太郎：我可以靠軍購噱一筆了！

By Tristan Cohan
at 2012-01-30T03:14

但其實照理說西鄉大久保應該會傾向龍馬才是呀!?

By Cara
at 2012-02-04T00:02

to allen 當然沒有，之後容堂浮上政治舞台表面後會演出

By Leila
at 2012-02-07T20:06

彌太郎的商人魂覺醒了

By Linda
at 2012-02-07T21:17

把龍馬之死的嫌疑稍稍分一點給薩摩XDDD

By Zora
at 2012-02-07T23:49

大久保扛下了薩摩黑幕說了吧新選組也是出現來給你猜的

By Hamiltion
at 2012-02-11T22:49

還有5集龍馬要被暗殺Q.Q

By Agatha
at 2012-02-15T06:13

龍馬被暗殺也有一說是薩摩藩的陰謀.../___\

By Poppy
at 2012-02-19T15:26

製造一點嫌疑氣氛

By Christine
at 2012-02-21T12:16

是剩下五個月嗎 XDD

By Liam
at 2012-02-26T01:15

剛剛有人在用示現流耶

By Thomas
at 2012-02-27T10:07

龍馬快把思想洗成主戰啊,不然會被暗殺...(維新之嵐梗)

By Mason
at 2012-02-29T20:22

把SP阿龍留在長州實在是龍馬的大誤算啊XDDD

By James
at 2012-03-04T13:22

剛好1集1個月XDDD

By Hedda
at 2012-03-04T15:33

可是龍馬和甘迺迪一樣啊...連個主謀都找不到...

By Liam
at 2012-03-06T02:09

台灣很多「代夫出征」選舉的啊...^^a

By Oscar
at 2012-03-07T03:36

阿元的回合~~~!?

By Edwina
at 2012-03-10T13:22

這集感覺大家都在心機阿元阿QoQ

By Gary
at 2012-03-11T14:41

雨天全員逃走中 (誤)

By Robert
at 2012-03-14T14:15

這片尾.....阿元的死亡旗幟????

By Heather
at 2012-03-19T12:30

下集阿元再見了っ異世界船票 (沒記錯的話

By Robert
at 2012-03-23T07:14

明明是雨の逃亡者っ異世界船票XDD

By Anthony
at 2012-03-27T04:24

其實政權會被少數人把持不只日本民國剛成立更亂而且

By Valerie
at 2012-03-28T21:19

後面的西鄕抿著茶觀察他www~ 暴走揮揮揮~~~

By Dinah
at 2012-04-01T13:06

龍馬被暗殺後的遺言該不會是「和平、奮鬥、救日本」吧？
看了這一集的感覺就是龍馬是日本的國父沒錯吧...^^?

By Donna
at 2012-04-03T04:41

政權也是被蔣家跟孔宋兩家瓜分 -.-

By Bennie
at 2012-04-06T17:48

現在也沒比日本好多少= =

By Rachel
at 2012-04-07T17:54

太早死了真是可惜，應該要撐久一點的...|||

By Faithe
at 2012-04-08T10:03

對阿照龍馬的個性不然日本搞不好不會走向軍國主義

By Hazel
at 2012-04-12T18:58

不看現在民國真的是更慘有興趣的話最近張大春在newsXX廣播

By Xanthe
at 2012-04-14T12:08

這就是民國...XD

By Andy
at 2012-04-18T06:45

每天都會有一小時的「這就是民國」單元在說這一段歷史的書

By Puput
at 2012-04-23T06:20

本日進度：徐錫麟...^^a

By Belly
at 2012-04-24T20:20

可是龍馬不是打算去炒地皮嗎

By Jessica
at 2012-04-28T03:37

看書是說阿龍證實龍馬說過不想當官不想每天固定上下班

By Emma
at 2012-05-01T02:12

他就是早死維新帶來的士族失業、西洋文化衝擊等等諸多問

By Noah
at 2012-05-02T17:56

果然一整個很漂撇的個性

By Elvira
at 2012-05-05T01:32

然後想到處作生意... 其實要有名有利有權當官是最好方式吧

By Bethany
at 2012-05-07T20:43

龍馬早點死也好,之後日本走向瘋狂,也沒辦法阻止吧..囧

By Isabella
at 2012-05-12T20:34

果然八廁留下的也是一堆屎XDDD

By Olive
at 2012-05-15T01:35

他應該會想出國留學完成長次郎跟高杉的夢想吧XD

By Genevieve
at 2012-05-16T02:35

如果他沒死或許西鄉跟大久保的士族矛盾不會這麼嚴重?

By Sierra Rose
at 2012-05-18T13:21

題都和他無關也不用負責許多人可以單純的喜歡他呀

By Edith
at 2012-05-19T19:14

日幣一萬塊在龍馬傳沒出現不然說不定可以怪在他頭上

By Kyle
at 2012-05-22T05:00

他不是說要環遊世界80天嗎...(?)

By Erin
at 2012-05-26T16:03

日幣是什麼淵源?
對呀她好像就是不想當官想去世界各地看看作生意

By Zanna
at 2012-05-31T13:58

福澤諭吉

By Donna
at 2012-06-01T07:13

龍馬何德何能可以調解西鄕和大久保 www.... 小松還ok..

By Dorothy
at 2012-06-02T03:42

我以後寫作文在日本國父　坂本龍馬的大名前要空一格。

By Ina
at 2012-06-06T06:53

想太多了呀龍馬這次沒死也不一定當權或下次死^^
大久保:啊~~~~~

By Mason
at 2012-06-08T17:51

意思是就算沒有被見迴組幹掉也是有機會被別人幹掉就是

By Zanna
at 2012-06-09T02:02

龍馬要躲過死神的詭計啊！（咦，這不是決命終結站嗎）

By Megan
at 2012-06-09T03:20

福澤諭吉和龍馬有什麼梗嗎 @@"

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2012-06-13T18:44

如果他繼續活著我想應該會是個緩衝很好的人選當然歷史沒有

By Ursula
at 2012-06-16T22:52

況且龍馬沒權、就算思想先進逃不過跟千利休同樣下場

By Brianna
at 2012-06-20T18:42

看wiki是說跟他的恩師比較有關係跟他熟不熟我就真的不知道

By Anonymous
at 2012-06-21T13:38

What if啦...可是他實在很能斡旋談判

By Bethany
at 2012-06-26T12:17

維新算是階級的洗牌沒能力的士族下沉有能力的貧民上升

By Eartha
at 2012-06-26T19:37

畢竟陸奧活下來都可以爬到那種位置龍馬也有可能分享到權力

By Eden
at 2012-06-30T19:21

這才公平吧文化衝擊感覺無法避免的@@

By Delia
at 2012-07-04T01:21

那也是雙方有意願談

By Susan
at 2012-07-05T19:54

只有秀吉成功爬上來吧...@@"

By Agnes
at 2012-07-09T12:50

會這樣想也不奇怪.龍馬也不是官員.他不會想到這麼多吧

By Damian
at 2012-07-14T08:51

再說有能力的士族應該比平民容易成功吧XD

By Harry
at 2012-07-16T18:31

如果把龍馬的一些想法當成是改革思想的傳遞會不會好一點

By Yedda
at 2012-07-19T05:16

李登輝對船中八策也有些想法(網路上看得到)

By Zanna
at 2012-07-19T12:23

前幾天他提到國民黨與民進黨合推一組人馬參選總統

By Mason
at 2012-07-22T09:46

李登輝有受過日本教育的專業訓練啊 XDDDDD

By Poppy
at 2012-07-26T09:13

李登輝好像是台灣龍馬後援會的會長

By Mary
at 2012-07-29T18:34

龍馬寫的"新官制擬定書"裡有列他自己的名字喔世界的海

By Agatha
at 2012-08-02T23:10

我想靈感應該也是來自這裡吧

By Emily
at 2012-08-03T13:51

援隊什麼的只是小說創作不用認真...

By Hamiltion
at 2012-08-08T06:15

阿輝伯和司馬遼太郎關係很好啊XD 一定知道龍馬XDD

By Queena
at 2012-08-09T21:23

喔是逸話我不知道是哪裡出來的不一定是小說

By Candice
at 2012-08-10T18:14

世界的海援隊感覺好像獅子會XD

By Candice
at 2012-08-13T11:09

http://tinyurl.com/4t49kl9 介紹不過名單裡沒有中岡...

By Frederic
at 2012-08-14T09:43

日本政壇也沒那麼貴族啦@_@
而且即使是子承父業民選就不能算是世襲了吧...

By Selena
at 2012-08-14T12:20

世界的海援隊是有書中提到西鄉問龍馬龍馬回答的

By Candice
at 2012-08-15T11:13

只是很有那個味道在就是了基本上還是都給他們玩就好的感覺

By Michael
at 2012-08-20T06:02

最早好像是出自海援隊始末紀這本書吧~~不確定~~

By Vanessa
at 2012-08-24T01:32

阿輝伯超愛龍馬的

By Madame
at 2012-08-26T01:38

betty大的連結好棒喔!!!

By Jake
at 2012-08-26T07:54

我蠻好奇的，為什麼龍馬沒提出「鷸蚌相爭，漁翁得力」的

By Anthony
at 2012-08-28T13:10

理由來說服那些鷹派人士呢？
利打錯成力了。

By Charlotte
at 2012-08-31T05:01

還有這集把後藤像是有大格局的人,一看八策就知到箇中不凡

By Heather
at 2012-08-31T09:43

我怎麼一直打錯字。

By Robert
at 2012-09-05T08:30

可能那是不能說的秘密

By Dinah
at 2012-09-07T02:27

阿輝要國民同盟,跟長崎奉行聽到薩長同盟的感想一樣..別鬧了

By Aaliyah
at 2012-09-09T06:56

就像提出理論跟實作出來人誰比較偉大一樣,沒活到可以實作

By Isla
at 2012-09-10T21:51

時代,想像空間就很大,b大的連結龍馬有提過世界的海援隊

By Quanna
at 2012-09-12T03:43

可是沒說不作官啊XDD

By Aaliyah
at 2012-09-16T15:43

那個時代的人好像是外星人一樣很多都無私為日本努力

By Edward Lewis
at 2012-09-18T01:43

幕末的時候明治中期以後就變正常了
日本最令人驚奇的是德川幕府可以和平轉移政權

By Jake
at 2012-09-21T16:08

雖然也是有打仗不過跟其他國家來比簡直像外星人
一般轉移政權老百姓免不了要死的死逃的逃

By Queena
at 2012-09-21T17:29

民選還是有家族勢力存在日本美國都不少
台灣也是有政治世襲
有BAKU才能選舉不然誰要理你
只是換另一種方式的專制而已

By Heather
at 2012-09-25T23:06

龍馬就算逃過暗殺恐怕也會被軟禁
棒打出頭鳥

By Hamiltion
at 2012-09-28T13:57

這人很危險想到什麼就做什麼一直去說服別人
與世俗不容

By Wallis
at 2012-10-02T00:32

既然被暗殺代表已經讓很多既得利益者不爽
逃了一次還有一次

By Una
at 2012-10-07T00:20

幕末一堆暗殺後來關東軍也是一堆暗殺政治立場相反的就
連首相也做掉

By Dora
at 2012-10-09T21:21

想想美國前幾天發生的槍擊案像龍馬那樣的人很稀奇

By Irma
at 2012-10-10T14:08

沒有意見不合就想幹掉對方而是想說服

By William
at 2012-10-10T20:37

中國與日本的藩閥興衰史 http://tinyurl.com/6bqwm9m

By Susan
at 2012-10-13T15:27

中間評論了薩長土肥、維新三傑和伊藤、陸奧、山縣

By Sierra Rose
at 2012-10-13T17:42

b大連結的文章好主觀喔...

By George
at 2012-10-16T17:50

可惜中岡和大久保同場演出的時候..沒有來一段言詞攻
防（大誤）

By George
at 2012-10-17T02:24

B大的分享連結辛苦了~可是裡面的作者真的有點主觀.....

By Kumar
at 2012-10-17T15:26

看了betty大的連結原來陸奧最後官做這麼大喔-0-

By Catherine
at 2012-10-17T16:50

文章寫得很棒鞭僻入理

By Kumar
at 2012-10-21T10:30

若能指出主觀的地方在哪就好了... 我覺得幕府和四雄藩的

By Oscar
at 2012-10-25T21:51

大概是四雄藩吧~因為我是個偏心薩摩的人XDDDD

By Gilbert
at 2012-10-27T03:31

介紹沒有太大落差頂多是攘夷和開國的路線演變簡化了些

By Erin
at 2012-10-30T00:51

怎麼能把薩摩講的如此保守呢?(完全偏心狀態)

By Emma
at 2012-10-30T12:15

然後薩摩整個忘記了島津齊彬XD 而且他們背著幕府派一堆

By Isabella
at 2012-11-02T21:24

留學生出去保守大概是專門指久光XD

By Emma
at 2012-11-04T08:09

對嘛對嘛!(完全瘋狂狀態)

By Queena
at 2012-11-08T08:02

然後肥前被合併到土佐去講了實際上肥前是藩主搞一堆改革

By Odelette
at 2012-11-09T03:18

我自己是認為，島津跟幕府都想維新。但把島津說成是群臭海
盜讓我覺得怪不舒服的。島津齊彬的高瞻遠矚整個被無視化

By Barb Cronin
at 2012-11-11T04:36

但一直保持中立到最後一刻才加入薩長不願冒險做出頭

By Kyle
at 2012-11-11T12:42

鳥的結果就是只能在政府中敬陪末座了和社會現實一樣

By Harry
at 2012-11-11T20:20

B大，小的想請問，熊本藩在第二次征長戰役中，是把上岸的奇

By Adele
at 2012-11-15T07:07

兵隊擊退還是如劇中被奇兵隊壓著打?因為我記得熊本藩武力
好像有在做裝備革新?

By Sarah
at 2012-11-17T07:13

長州的部分寫得挺認同的最開始落實四民平等的神奇地方

By Jacky
at 2012-11-18T09:41

然後法式暴民政治的比喻也很形象禁門之變前後的長州

By Sarah
at 2012-11-19T22:43

小倉口這裡有輸有贏和其他三個地方相較戰況膠著

By Rae
at 2012-11-20T20:41

但是他們好不容易擋下長州軍幕府卻始終不加以支應...

By Connor
at 2012-11-22T16:38

諸藩就想憑什麼要我們損兵折將、招惹長州怨恨=_=..

By Heather
at 2012-11-27T04:16

於是就退兵了於是小倉藩很悲劇地只能把城放火燒了打游擊

By Hedy
at 2012-11-28T21:28

感恩您解惑~

By Skylar Davis
at 2012-12-02T13:18

原來gametv是薩摩控w 對我這長州至上的人和木戶一樣

By Edward Lewis
at 2012-12-03T13:12

唯一認同和敬佩的薩摩人就屬不太像薩摩人的大久保了XD~

By Rachel
at 2012-12-04T07:29

小的雖不喜歡長州，但對木戶孝允先生還是十分景仰的

By Edward Lewis
at 2012-12-07T01:36

西鄕很像傳統聖賢散盡家財、照顧鄉里可始終對他不了解

By Rachel
at 2012-12-07T09:13

三傑都很喜歡這篇文章寫三傑部分和我主觀理解沒什麼差異

By Poppy
at 2012-12-11T23:58

不過薩摩的武士制度感覺確實較落後(?) 於是領內有30%人口

By Edward Lewis
at 2012-12-13T04:03

是武士的薩摩維新之後比其他藩都來的痛苦.. 長州比較

By Eden
at 2012-12-18T00:48

沒這問題但卻有兵隊肥大的問題.. 兵隊要是失控是很可

By Zora
at 2012-12-18T11:08

怕的木戶在幕末就領受到了.. 所以文民統制的思想倒不是

By Quintina
at 2012-12-18T19:26

特別針對薩摩... 其實我也不是長州人都喜歡譬如山縣...

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