KANO - 電影

By Christine
at 2014-03-12T11:29
at 2014-03-12T11:29
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※ 引述《comebackkid ()》之銘言:
: 如果你很喜歡KANO,而且不想影響自己觀影後的好心情,建議跳過這篇。
同上
: 先從很多人批評的特效說起,我覺得相對於本片的其他面向來說特效倒是較小的問題。電
特效是很大的問題
我發現很多人在護航特效的時候都在用一些奇怪的理由像是經費不夠
或這是棒球電影所以特效不是重點....等方式來轉移焦點
所謂的特效有問題,指的並不是沒有拍出多精美的投球特效
沒有後製出手瞬間的特寫,變成火球,背後浮現昇龍...這類
舉例來說,開場的那艘船,結局的那艘船..............
船很假就算了,連上面走動的人都很假,更別提居然還格數不夠啊!
格數不夠是怎麼回事啊? 當觀眾看不出來那艘船是「一格一格」的在動嗎?
拜託這邊真的別扯什麼經費不夠不是重點云云,模組都架好結果轉出格數不夠?
實際上在這部電影裡面,這艘船真有非出現不可的意義在嗎? 沒有嘛!
既然經費不夠的話拜託把這筆錢挪用去其他地方,不要硬弄一個又假又lag的船出來
還是說這船是導演的彩蛋?
設計對白:「哼哼,我下部電影也會有喔(特別是船)」
OK,那我知道會有人說船只是一小段不是重點(那幹嘛硬放)或繼續跳針經費不夠
特效在整部片中最大的問題也不是那艘船,更不是帽子跟棒球.............
..................................而是那些觀眾啊(吐血)
這什麼詭異的貼圖合成orz,有看到那平面模糊黑影觀眾遠景的就知道我在說啥
所以我在看最後一場比賽那段時一直出戲,因為只要出現遠景的觀眾
馬上就從KANO打棒球變成冥府打棒球
可以把上面那艘船刪掉,把經費挪去將觀眾遠景弄好嗎?
: 面有些角色,例如阿靜,其實好像也沒那麼必要。但為什麼會出現呢?可能是因為一個完
: 美的故事裡,完美的年輕主角總需要談點小戀愛吧。教練的家庭是這副模樣,可能是因為
: 很多故事裡完美的家庭都是這副模樣吧。但如果角色和情節可有可無的話,刪了可能反而
: 較好,片長也會合理一點。
我也認為青梅竹馬線完全刪光光對劇情也不會有任何影響
不如把時間拿去補足球員的心態轉換
電影中眾人的心態轉換描寫其實是非常不足的
像是這隻球隊原本就只是在快樂打棒球而已,何以眼鏡教師會那麼努力去找教練?
同上原本只是快樂打棒球的球員,如何轉換心態拼死也要去甲子園?
就因為教練很想去? 就因為學長哭哭沒球可以打了?
再同上,那團隊意識、緊密的信任是怎麼凝聚起來的?
(團隊意識凝聚可以參考王牌投手,描寫的很好)
另外,教練是從哪裡看出吳明捷的天份的? 不知道
那吳明捷著名的高壓式投法是怎麼練成的? 不知道
錠者那段也是,只看到吳投了幾球就愛上.....怕到不行
拜託一下,打棒球又不是投手互丟,一般人可能會有這種錯覺,打球的也會嗎?
要怕也是你旁邊的隊友在怕(好吧當時還沒引進DH制度投手也要打)
你要怕也是怕KANO的打者群吧?(同上)
錠者跑去廁所堵吳明捷打算告.......送球的時候也是
電影在這之前先花了兩小時塑造出吳明捷的個性出來
廁所這段突然變成了個囂張的小伙子,心態如何轉換的?
是用囂張來掩飾受傷的情況嗎? 既然這樣又何必把血弄到球上?
..................是傲嬌嗎?
: 。我覺得KANO最精采的地方大多是貼近史實拍出來的部分,例如吳明捷血染棒球的奮戰。
: 多虧了嘉農隊傳奇的精采故事和棒球比賽本身的張力,還有配樂,拯救了這部電影。當然
: 如果能再合理一點,少灑狗血一點會更好。我知道很多看起來灑狗血的地方是根據史實,
: 但如何表現編導還是有選擇的空間,平實沈潛一點不見得就不動人。錠者站起來大喊天下
: 嘉農的時候,我著實有點錯愕。
因為他愛上了吳.....因為他很欣賞KANO所以喊一下囉
但這完完全全是為了幫忙抬轎而設計出來的角色
為什麼別的口號不喊偏要喊天下嘉農? 不知道
如果硬要喊的話,讓那個記者來喊會更合理也更有效果
因為那是一個原本看不起嘉農,卻後卻被奮戰英姿感動的人
: 不算不合理。只能說我對此片的期待有點高,而看完後落差有點大吧。
同上
另外一個落差就是......後面的劇情太好猜了
導演拿來當做壓軸的熱血劇情,完完全全就是老梗......
--
: 如果你很喜歡KANO,而且不想影響自己觀影後的好心情,建議跳過這篇。
同上
: 先從很多人批評的特效說起,我覺得相對於本片的其他面向來說特效倒是較小的問題。電
特效是很大的問題
我發現很多人在護航特效的時候都在用一些奇怪的理由像是經費不夠
或這是棒球電影所以特效不是重點....等方式來轉移焦點
所謂的特效有問題,指的並不是沒有拍出多精美的投球特效
沒有後製出手瞬間的特寫,變成火球,背後浮現昇龍...這類
舉例來說,開場的那艘船,結局的那艘船..............
船很假就算了,連上面走動的人都很假,更別提居然還格數不夠啊!
格數不夠是怎麼回事啊? 當觀眾看不出來那艘船是「一格一格」的在動嗎?
拜託這邊真的別扯什麼經費不夠不是重點云云,模組都架好結果轉出格數不夠?
實際上在這部電影裡面,這艘船真有非出現不可的意義在嗎? 沒有嘛!
既然經費不夠的話拜託把這筆錢挪用去其他地方,不要硬弄一個又假又lag的船出來
還是說這船是導演的彩蛋?
設計對白:「哼哼,我下部電影也會有喔(特別是船)」
OK,那我知道會有人說船只是一小段不是重點(那幹嘛硬放)或繼續跳針經費不夠
特效在整部片中最大的問題也不是那艘船,更不是帽子跟棒球.............
..................................而是那些觀眾啊(吐血)
這什麼詭異的貼圖合成orz,有看到那平面模糊黑影觀眾遠景的就知道我在說啥
所以我在看最後一場比賽那段時一直出戲,因為只要出現遠景的觀眾
馬上就從KANO打棒球變成冥府打棒球
可以把上面那艘船刪掉,把經費挪去將觀眾遠景弄好嗎?
: 面有些角色,例如阿靜,其實好像也沒那麼必要。但為什麼會出現呢?可能是因為一個完
: 美的故事裡,完美的年輕主角總需要談點小戀愛吧。教練的家庭是這副模樣,可能是因為
: 很多故事裡完美的家庭都是這副模樣吧。但如果角色和情節可有可無的話,刪了可能反而
: 較好,片長也會合理一點。
我也認為青梅竹馬線完全刪光光對劇情也不會有任何影響
不如把時間拿去補足球員的心態轉換
電影中眾人的心態轉換描寫其實是非常不足的
像是這隻球隊原本就只是在快樂打棒球而已,何以眼鏡教師會那麼努力去找教練?
同上原本只是快樂打棒球的球員,如何轉換心態拼死也要去甲子園?
就因為教練很想去? 就因為學長哭哭沒球可以打了?
再同上,那團隊意識、緊密的信任是怎麼凝聚起來的?
(團隊意識凝聚可以參考王牌投手,描寫的很好)
另外,教練是從哪裡看出吳明捷的天份的? 不知道
那吳明捷著名的高壓式投法是怎麼練成的? 不知道
錠者那段也是,只看到吳投了幾球就愛上.....怕到不行
拜託一下,打棒球又不是投手互丟,一般人可能會有這種錯覺,打球的也會嗎?
要怕也是你旁邊的隊友在怕(好吧當時還沒引進DH制度投手也要打)
你要怕也是怕KANO的打者群吧?(同上)
錠者跑去廁所堵吳明捷打算告.......送球的時候也是
電影在這之前先花了兩小時塑造出吳明捷的個性出來
廁所這段突然變成了個囂張的小伙子,心態如何轉換的?
是用囂張來掩飾受傷的情況嗎? 既然這樣又何必把血弄到球上?
..................是傲嬌嗎?
: 。我覺得KANO最精采的地方大多是貼近史實拍出來的部分,例如吳明捷血染棒球的奮戰。
: 多虧了嘉農隊傳奇的精采故事和棒球比賽本身的張力,還有配樂,拯救了這部電影。當然
: 如果能再合理一點,少灑狗血一點會更好。我知道很多看起來灑狗血的地方是根據史實,
: 但如何表現編導還是有選擇的空間,平實沈潛一點不見得就不動人。錠者站起來大喊天下
: 嘉農的時候,我著實有點錯愕。
因為他愛上了吳.....因為他很欣賞KANO所以喊一下囉
但這完完全全是為了幫忙抬轎而設計出來的角色
為什麼別的口號不喊偏要喊天下嘉農? 不知道
如果硬要喊的話,讓那個記者來喊會更合理也更有效果
因為那是一個原本看不起嘉農,卻後卻被奮戰英姿感動的人
: 不算不合理。只能說我對此片的期待有點高,而看完後落差有點大吧。
同上
另外一個落差就是......後面的劇情太好猜了
導演拿來當做壓軸的熱血劇情,完完全全就是老梗......
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