Tim Gunn爆料PR的大八卦(無雷) - 實境秀

By Noah
at 2008-05-12T01:58
at 2008-05-12T01:58
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我想PR台灣進度應該是到大都會博物館那一集吧?
我會盡量不要在以下文章中爆雷...
注意! 此連結有第四季冠軍雷! 沒看過FINALE者勿點!
http://0rz.tw/a646O
注意! 此連結有第四季冠軍雷! 沒看過FINALE者勿點!
以下無雷
PR第四季完結後我看了不少訪問,很多都很有趣,但是都沒什麼八卦爆點。
不過這一篇Tim的訪談很值得一看,提到不少第四季與前幾季參賽者的內幕與近況。
但是最重要的是這篇有爆點XD
我擷取一些無劇情雷的段落,翻譯一下,覺得我翻不好的人別打我 orz
大爆點一! Victorya究竟是不是個大海灘? 讓 Tim Gunn 來說分明!
MR: I don’t really understand why she was so upset. Can you explain
that to me?
記者:我不懂為什麼Victorya臉色常常如此難看? 你可以解釋給我聽嗎?
TG: “She was sourpuss, a crabby apple as I keep saying, throughout
almost all the show, other than Days 1, 2 and 3. She became this sour pill.
Rich Bye, one of the executive producers, and I had two off camera interventions
with her. I said to her, ‘You know what makes me beside myself is the fact
that there are thousands of designers who would love to be in your place.
What’s the matter with you?’
TIM: 從第四季拍攝的第四天開始,我就常說她是個讓人不爽,掃興,又愛抱怨的人。
我跟節目的執行製作人與 V 有兩次鏡頭沒拍到的談話。我對她說:「妳知道嗎?
讓我很感冒的是,有數以千計的設計師非常樂意取代妳的參賽資格,妳為什麼
要這麼難搞?」
“She said, ‘I never dreamed the experience of being on the show would be
like this.’ We said, ‘What do you mean?’ ‘I never dreamed we’d only have
a day for challenges, that we wouldn’t have any breaks.’ ‘But you said you
saw the show.’ She said, ‘I assumed it was cheated.’ I said, ‘Then you
only have your own delusions to blame.’ She was really angry and bitter.
TIM: V 說:「我從來沒有想像過這個節目的實際情況會是這個樣子。」
我與製作人說:「妳這句話是什麼意思?」
V 說:「我從來沒想過我們真的要在一天內做完挑戰指定的衣服,而且我們沒有
其他休息的空檔。」
我與製作人說:「但是妳說妳曾經看過這個節目啊!」
V 說:「我以為節目實際上有移花接木(她以為實際上並非一天)」
我說:「妳竟然以妳的幻想為理由來責備我們!」
V 她真的非常生氣而且不爽。
“On one occasion – they edited this out, I knew they would – we were at
Mood [Fabrics], and I’m handing out money. They each have $250 dollars. She
collects the envelopes from all the designers and hands them back to me. She
said, ‘I want you to count it.’ I just stared at her. ‘You want me to do
what?
TIM: 有一件事,就如我所預料的一樣,被節目製作單位剪掉了。
那一次,我們在布料店,我正在發買布的預算給設計師們。結果 V 她從設計師們
手上拿回那些裝著錢的信封袋,退還給我。
V 說:「我希望你清點這些錢。」
我瞪著 V 說:「什麼?! 妳說妳希望我做什麼?」
“She wanted me to count the money in each envelope. I looked to the
producer on site with us, and I said, ‘I’m not doing this, am I?’
and he said, ‘The rules say that if a designer asks for the money to be
counted, we have to count it.’ I said, ‘Fine,’ and asked why she wanted
it counted. And she had pulled out this sheaf of papers –
she had the rules with her – and she said, ‘I don’t believe that we all
have the same amount of money.’ Why would we do that? If someone didn’t
have the right amount, wouldn’t they come to me? So I counted the money.
TIM: V 她希望我清算每個信封袋裡的錢。
我看著我們身旁的製作人說:「我不需要這麼做,對不對?」
製作人說:「節目規則說如果有設計師要求清點預算,那我們就必須清點。」
我說:「好。」然後我問她為什麼要我清點預算?
然後她抽出了一疊紙,那些紙是節目規則。她說:「我不相信我們每個人所
分配到的預算是一樣的。」
T說:「為什麼我們要這麼做? 如果有人沒拿到該有的錢,難道他不會
來找我嗎?」 但是我還是清點了各個信封袋裡的鈔票。
“But that’s what it was like dealing with her. She actually said about Jack
’s departure that we had engineered him leaving because he wasn’t a pretty
face anymore. I just said to her, ‘I fundamentally don’t understand why you
can’t understand that he is seriously ill. Furthermore, it’s a MRSA
[infection]. We are all at risk.’ But she said we were forcing him out and
that shouldn’t happen and we should have a hearing or something.”
TIM: 這就是跟 V 打交道的情況。
(JACK離開的那次)
V 她說節目送走 JACK 是因為他不再有張漂亮的臉蛋(JACK臉部受到感染)
我只是對 V 說:「我實在無法了解為什麼妳不能了解 JACK 實在是病情嚴重。
而且,這是MRSA(JACK所受的感染),我們都有危險。」
但是 V 說那是我們強制要 JACK 離開節目,而且這事不該發生,
V 覺得我們應該召開一個聽證會。 (感謝m板友指正)
MR: That explains what the hostility was about in the reunion special. I
think I get that now.
記者:這就解釋了reunion上的敵意了,我想我現在了解了。
(對不起,還是爆了一點小小雷)
TG: “I still don’t understand [what was going on with her]. She was at the
finale party last night. I said to myself, ‘What are you doing here? Why are
you here, you’ve disassociated yourself from the show, supposedly, but you’
re here?
“I will say this too, as sour as she is, she is extremely talented.”
TIM:我仍然不能了解 V 她在想什麼。她出現在昨天晚上的節目殺青慶功宴上,
我心想:「妳幹嘛待在這裡? 我想妳已經將自己與這個節目做切割了。
但是,妳還是繼續待在這裡?」
我必須這麼說,就用與 V 一樣尖酸的語氣:「她真是很有"才能"啊!」
(接下來我跳到另一個段落)
MR: Sometimes designers don’t get enough chances to prove themselves.
And sometimes maybe they get too many, like Ricky, who seemed very nice,
but …
記者:有時候有些設計師沒有足夠的機會去證明自己,但是有些設計師或許獲得
太多機會,就像 Ricky 這表面上看起來似乎很好,但是....
(這記者講話超賤XD)
TG: “I know. Him winning the Levi’s challenge… But I have to tell you
something funny. There’s one thing I feel bad about, and it’s [springs
from] the evil side of me. Victorya was out with the Levi’s challenge, and
the next challenge was the women wrestlers. I wanted so badly for her to have
to do that challenge. Would that not have been the ultimate in revenge? And I
’m about 60 percent confident that she would have walked off and refused to
do it, and that would have been a ‘PR’ first.
TIM: 我知道, R 他贏了LEVI挑戰,但是我必須說一件有趣的事,雖然我知道那不是
什麼好事,那是我內心的邪惡面在作祟。
Victorya在LEVI那個挑戰出局,而下一個挑戰是WWE女子摔跤選手。
我超級無敵期待 V 她能夠做那個挑戰,那不就可以稱上是終極復仇大計嗎?
而且我有60%的信心,V 她會走人不幹,拒絕做那個挑戰。
那很可能會是PR史上頭一遭有設計師拒作!
(編按:因為V只愛做典雅高貴的氣質小禮服。附帶一提,節目絕大部分的設計師,
除了Chris以外,幾乎都不怎麼喜歡WWE挑戰,但是還是勉強作了。)
編按:嗯...看起來 Tim 真的非常討厭 Victorya...
據我所知,Tim有與節目製作討論挑戰主題的權力,
所以說不定這個WWE主題就是Tim特地向製作人提議的,
只是人算不如天算,與WWE談好合作後,Victorya提前一集被淘汰,
於是Tim失去婊Victorya的好機會XD
(以上純粹是我的幻想 orz)
至於Victorya到底是不是大海灘,各位自己決定吧。
大爆點二! 揭露! 第三季超級大八卦!
MR: In terms of the finale, I wondered if there was a last-minute piece that
they’d be asked to make or something like that. But there wasn’t anything
like that.
記者:在第四季的決賽中,我很期待會有什麼大爆點,
例如必須要做另一件衣服(像第二季) 但是結果卻沒有什麼大爆點?
(說第四季決賽沒有drama這算爆雷嗎?)
TG: “There was the Rami and Chris thing (they competed against each
other in an extra elimination round in the Feb. 27 episode). [Gunn sighs]
I don’t know. I know Bravo wanted there to be an elimination in every
episode.
TIM:這一季的爆點就是Rami與Chris的競爭,那就夠了(TIM嘆氣)
我不知道耶... 我知道Bravo喜歡每一集都要淘汰設計師。
MR: Was that the plan from the start of the season, or was that a last-minute
decision, to have that mini-contest between two contestants at that stage?
記者:這是一開始就預定的? 還是臨時決定要讓Rami與Chris再比一次?
TG: “It’s actually a holdover from Season 3. But there was so much drama,
with Laura accusing Jeffrey [of having help with his work] that we didn’t do
it.”
TIM:這原本在第三季就想要這麼做了。(也就是R與C的淘汰賽是原先預定的)
但是第三季已經有那麼多drama,也就是Laura指控Jeffrey那件事。
所以我們沒做淘汰。
MR: Just so I understand – in Season 3 that was going to happen, but it
didn't because…
記者:我了解了。在第三季本來是要淘汰設計師的,會沒有發生,是因為...
TG: “It was eclipsed by Laura’s j’accuse of Jeffrey. We didn’t do it, we
didn’t need to, there was enough drama. Part of it was a concern – I never
have it, but I absolutely understand the producers’ concern about it – it’
s the thought, ‘What’s going happen? They’re just going to sit around, do
their work, have their model fittings?’ And my thought is, ‘And your
problem with that is what?’”
TIM:那次淘汰賽是因為Laura的指控而取消了,我們沒有做預先淘汰的動作,
因為 drama 已經夠多了。
有人(指製作人)會很關心這些drama,但我不會。我非常了解製作人在想什麼,
製作人在想:「到底有什麼drama可以產生? 他們就這樣坐在那裡,
縫他們的衣服,幫他們的 model 試衣,就這樣?」
我的想法是:「啊不然勒? 你有什麼意見嗎?」
心得1:看來Michael要感謝Laura,要不是她指控Jeffrey,要不是有這drama,
製作人就要舉辨淘汰賽,在進布萊恩公園前先淘汰掉一人。
這樣想非常合理,因為第三季打破先前慣例多收一人,所以要在走秀前,
將多收的那個人淘汰掉,以增加節目爆點。
這麼一來就是同時晉級的 Michael 與 Jeffrey要淘汰掉一人,
就如同 Rami vs Chris一樣。看也知道collection失水準的Michael毫無勝算,
reunion才剛票選出人氣王,下一集馬上就把人氣王淘汰,
節目收視率應該會爆表吧?
不知道這跟Laura指控Jeffrey比較起來,哪一個會比較drama齁 ? XDrz
心得2:看來Bravo超級酷愛drama,但是Tim毫無疑問只在意fashion,
說不定這就是Tim會想跳槽Lifetime的原因之一?
這篇訪談還有很多可看之處,有興趣的人可以看看。
但是再次警告,這篇訪談的標題就是第四季的冠軍雷!
--
我會盡量不要在以下文章中爆雷...
注意! 此連結有第四季冠軍雷! 沒看過FINALE者勿點!
http://0rz.tw/a646O
注意! 此連結有第四季冠軍雷! 沒看過FINALE者勿點!
以下無雷
PR第四季完結後我看了不少訪問,很多都很有趣,但是都沒什麼八卦爆點。
不過這一篇Tim的訪談很值得一看,提到不少第四季與前幾季參賽者的內幕與近況。
但是最重要的是這篇有爆點XD
我擷取一些無劇情雷的段落,翻譯一下,覺得我翻不好的人別打我 orz
大爆點一! Victorya究竟是不是個大海灘? 讓 Tim Gunn 來說分明!
MR: I don’t really understand why she was so upset. Can you explain
that to me?
記者:我不懂為什麼Victorya臉色常常如此難看? 你可以解釋給我聽嗎?
TG: “She was sourpuss, a crabby apple as I keep saying, throughout
almost all the show, other than Days 1, 2 and 3. She became this sour pill.
Rich Bye, one of the executive producers, and I had two off camera interventions
with her. I said to her, ‘You know what makes me beside myself is the fact
that there are thousands of designers who would love to be in your place.
What’s the matter with you?’
TIM: 從第四季拍攝的第四天開始,我就常說她是個讓人不爽,掃興,又愛抱怨的人。
我跟節目的執行製作人與 V 有兩次鏡頭沒拍到的談話。我對她說:「妳知道嗎?
讓我很感冒的是,有數以千計的設計師非常樂意取代妳的參賽資格,妳為什麼
要這麼難搞?」
“She said, ‘I never dreamed the experience of being on the show would be
like this.’ We said, ‘What do you mean?’ ‘I never dreamed we’d only have
a day for challenges, that we wouldn’t have any breaks.’ ‘But you said you
saw the show.’ She said, ‘I assumed it was cheated.’ I said, ‘Then you
only have your own delusions to blame.’ She was really angry and bitter.
TIM: V 說:「我從來沒有想像過這個節目的實際情況會是這個樣子。」
我與製作人說:「妳這句話是什麼意思?」
V 說:「我從來沒想過我們真的要在一天內做完挑戰指定的衣服,而且我們沒有
其他休息的空檔。」
我與製作人說:「但是妳說妳曾經看過這個節目啊!」
V 說:「我以為節目實際上有移花接木(她以為實際上並非一天)」
我說:「妳竟然以妳的幻想為理由來責備我們!」
V 她真的非常生氣而且不爽。
“On one occasion – they edited this out, I knew they would – we were at
Mood [Fabrics], and I’m handing out money. They each have $250 dollars. She
collects the envelopes from all the designers and hands them back to me. She
said, ‘I want you to count it.’ I just stared at her. ‘You want me to do
what?
TIM: 有一件事,就如我所預料的一樣,被節目製作單位剪掉了。
那一次,我們在布料店,我正在發買布的預算給設計師們。結果 V 她從設計師們
手上拿回那些裝著錢的信封袋,退還給我。
V 說:「我希望你清點這些錢。」
我瞪著 V 說:「什麼?! 妳說妳希望我做什麼?」
“She wanted me to count the money in each envelope. I looked to the
producer on site with us, and I said, ‘I’m not doing this, am I?’
and he said, ‘The rules say that if a designer asks for the money to be
counted, we have to count it.’ I said, ‘Fine,’ and asked why she wanted
it counted. And she had pulled out this sheaf of papers –
she had the rules with her – and she said, ‘I don’t believe that we all
have the same amount of money.’ Why would we do that? If someone didn’t
have the right amount, wouldn’t they come to me? So I counted the money.
TIM: V 她希望我清算每個信封袋裡的錢。
我看著我們身旁的製作人說:「我不需要這麼做,對不對?」
製作人說:「節目規則說如果有設計師要求清點預算,那我們就必須清點。」
我說:「好。」然後我問她為什麼要我清點預算?
然後她抽出了一疊紙,那些紙是節目規則。她說:「我不相信我們每個人所
分配到的預算是一樣的。」
T說:「為什麼我們要這麼做? 如果有人沒拿到該有的錢,難道他不會
來找我嗎?」 但是我還是清點了各個信封袋裡的鈔票。
“But that’s what it was like dealing with her. She actually said about Jack
’s departure that we had engineered him leaving because he wasn’t a pretty
face anymore. I just said to her, ‘I fundamentally don’t understand why you
can’t understand that he is seriously ill. Furthermore, it’s a MRSA
[infection]. We are all at risk.’ But she said we were forcing him out and
that shouldn’t happen and we should have a hearing or something.”
TIM: 這就是跟 V 打交道的情況。
(JACK離開的那次)
V 她說節目送走 JACK 是因為他不再有張漂亮的臉蛋(JACK臉部受到感染)
我只是對 V 說:「我實在無法了解為什麼妳不能了解 JACK 實在是病情嚴重。
而且,這是MRSA(JACK所受的感染),我們都有危險。」
但是 V 說那是我們強制要 JACK 離開節目,而且這事不該發生,
V 覺得我們應該召開一個聽證會。 (感謝m板友指正)
MR: That explains what the hostility was about in the reunion special. I
think I get that now.
記者:這就解釋了reunion上的敵意了,我想我現在了解了。
(對不起,還是爆了一點小小雷)
TG: “I still don’t understand [what was going on with her]. She was at the
finale party last night. I said to myself, ‘What are you doing here? Why are
you here, you’ve disassociated yourself from the show, supposedly, but you’
re here?
“I will say this too, as sour as she is, she is extremely talented.”
TIM:我仍然不能了解 V 她在想什麼。她出現在昨天晚上的節目殺青慶功宴上,
我心想:「妳幹嘛待在這裡? 我想妳已經將自己與這個節目做切割了。
但是,妳還是繼續待在這裡?」
我必須這麼說,就用與 V 一樣尖酸的語氣:「她真是很有"才能"啊!」
(接下來我跳到另一個段落)
MR: Sometimes designers don’t get enough chances to prove themselves.
And sometimes maybe they get too many, like Ricky, who seemed very nice,
but …
記者:有時候有些設計師沒有足夠的機會去證明自己,但是有些設計師或許獲得
太多機會,就像 Ricky 這表面上看起來似乎很好,但是....
(這記者講話超賤XD)
TG: “I know. Him winning the Levi’s challenge… But I have to tell you
something funny. There’s one thing I feel bad about, and it’s [springs
from] the evil side of me. Victorya was out with the Levi’s challenge, and
the next challenge was the women wrestlers. I wanted so badly for her to have
to do that challenge. Would that not have been the ultimate in revenge? And I
’m about 60 percent confident that she would have walked off and refused to
do it, and that would have been a ‘PR’ first.
TIM: 我知道, R 他贏了LEVI挑戰,但是我必須說一件有趣的事,雖然我知道那不是
什麼好事,那是我內心的邪惡面在作祟。
Victorya在LEVI那個挑戰出局,而下一個挑戰是WWE女子摔跤選手。
我超級無敵期待 V 她能夠做那個挑戰,那不就可以稱上是終極復仇大計嗎?
而且我有60%的信心,V 她會走人不幹,拒絕做那個挑戰。
那很可能會是PR史上頭一遭有設計師拒作!
(編按:因為V只愛做典雅高貴的氣質小禮服。附帶一提,節目絕大部分的設計師,
除了Chris以外,幾乎都不怎麼喜歡WWE挑戰,但是還是勉強作了。)
編按:嗯...看起來 Tim 真的非常討厭 Victorya...
據我所知,Tim有與節目製作討論挑戰主題的權力,
所以說不定這個WWE主題就是Tim特地向製作人提議的,
只是人算不如天算,與WWE談好合作後,Victorya提前一集被淘汰,
於是Tim失去婊Victorya的好機會XD
(以上純粹是我的幻想 orz)
至於Victorya到底是不是大海灘,各位自己決定吧。
大爆點二! 揭露! 第三季超級大八卦!
MR: In terms of the finale, I wondered if there was a last-minute piece that
they’d be asked to make or something like that. But there wasn’t anything
like that.
記者:在第四季的決賽中,我很期待會有什麼大爆點,
例如必須要做另一件衣服(像第二季) 但是結果卻沒有什麼大爆點?
(說第四季決賽沒有drama這算爆雷嗎?)
TG: “There was the Rami and Chris thing (they competed against each
other in an extra elimination round in the Feb. 27 episode). [Gunn sighs]
I don’t know. I know Bravo wanted there to be an elimination in every
episode.
TIM:這一季的爆點就是Rami與Chris的競爭,那就夠了(TIM嘆氣)
我不知道耶... 我知道Bravo喜歡每一集都要淘汰設計師。
MR: Was that the plan from the start of the season, or was that a last-minute
decision, to have that mini-contest between two contestants at that stage?
記者:這是一開始就預定的? 還是臨時決定要讓Rami與Chris再比一次?
TG: “It’s actually a holdover from Season 3. But there was so much drama,
with Laura accusing Jeffrey [of having help with his work] that we didn’t do
it.”
TIM:這原本在第三季就想要這麼做了。(也就是R與C的淘汰賽是原先預定的)
但是第三季已經有那麼多drama,也就是Laura指控Jeffrey那件事。
所以我們沒做淘汰。
MR: Just so I understand – in Season 3 that was going to happen, but it
didn't because…
記者:我了解了。在第三季本來是要淘汰設計師的,會沒有發生,是因為...
TG: “It was eclipsed by Laura’s j’accuse of Jeffrey. We didn’t do it, we
didn’t need to, there was enough drama. Part of it was a concern – I never
have it, but I absolutely understand the producers’ concern about it – it’
s the thought, ‘What’s going happen? They’re just going to sit around, do
their work, have their model fittings?’ And my thought is, ‘And your
problem with that is what?’”
TIM:那次淘汰賽是因為Laura的指控而取消了,我們沒有做預先淘汰的動作,
因為 drama 已經夠多了。
有人(指製作人)會很關心這些drama,但我不會。我非常了解製作人在想什麼,
製作人在想:「到底有什麼drama可以產生? 他們就這樣坐在那裡,
縫他們的衣服,幫他們的 model 試衣,就這樣?」
我的想法是:「啊不然勒? 你有什麼意見嗎?」
心得1:看來Michael要感謝Laura,要不是她指控Jeffrey,要不是有這drama,
製作人就要舉辨淘汰賽,在進布萊恩公園前先淘汰掉一人。
這樣想非常合理,因為第三季打破先前慣例多收一人,所以要在走秀前,
將多收的那個人淘汰掉,以增加節目爆點。
這麼一來就是同時晉級的 Michael 與 Jeffrey要淘汰掉一人,
就如同 Rami vs Chris一樣。看也知道collection失水準的Michael毫無勝算,
reunion才剛票選出人氣王,下一集馬上就把人氣王淘汰,
節目收視率應該會爆表吧?
不知道這跟Laura指控Jeffrey比較起來,哪一個會比較drama齁 ? XDrz
心得2:看來Bravo超級酷愛drama,但是Tim毫無疑問只在意fashion,
說不定這就是Tim會想跳槽Lifetime的原因之一?
這篇訪談還有很多可看之處,有興趣的人可以看看。
但是再次警告,這篇訪談的標題就是第四季的冠軍雷!
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