W-兩個世界EP16不合理之處 - 韓劇

By Sandy
at 2016-09-15T12:26
at 2016-09-15T12:26
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我直接看中字看得懂,所以回頭看live文也替大家很著急,
借penny257大的文說說我的理解和心得:
※ 引述《penny257 (penny)》之銘言:
: 不合理1.
: 姜哲明明就是自投羅網去送死的,明知道議員是大壞蛋來的,怎麼不先下手為強,還讓
議
: 員開了一槍,自我犧牲也不要讓議員統治哪世界啊!姜哲既然射殺了議員的兩個手下,
那
: 為什麼不射殺議員呢?
因為他沒想到議員已經從道允那裡問出真相、變身成大魔王,
以為帶著隨身碟去威脅他就夠了。他並沒有想要自我犧牲讓議員統治世界啊。
射殺那兩個手下是不得已,頭兩個是情急之下射到心臟位置,
後來在樓梯口又碰到兩個,第一個他刻意射腿,第二個沒子彈了赤手空拳打。
濫殺無辜就不是姜哲了,他行事會盡可能循正道。
: 不合理2.
: 昨晚live版看大家討論的,議員這麼容易解決,怎麼不讓他早點死...
同上,非到最後不會隨便讓人死。阿爸也是聽到姜哲中槍,知道已經沒辦法了,
所以下定決心和議員同歸於盡。
他以前犯過隨意賜死角色的錯(但是意志不堅定,敗給鋼鐵姜哲),
怎麼可以再次犯錯呢,雖然小黑殺過很多人,但阿爸這才第二次,要下很大決心的。
: 不合理3?
: 妍珠開車要去找姜哲那段,妍珠車子也開太慢了吧!爸爸已經解決完議員,在開車過去
,
: 都還看到妍珠剛到不趕快過馬路,妍珠你也開太慢了吧!
: http://i.imgur.com/R2VaMnG.jpg
妍珠從旅館出發的時候還不知道姜哲在哪裡,只是漫無目標亂開,
這期間阿爸在旅館裡解決議員,而姜哲正在昏迷(說自己睡了很久所以沒接電話),
等他醒過來告訴妍珠位置以後,妍珠也通知了道允,道允通知阿爸。
: 不合理4.
: 昨天live版一堆推文,妍珠別太遵守交通規則了吧!看到姜哲在對面,管他來往的車子
,
: 應該立刻衝過去!要衝怎麼不早點衝
: http://i.imgur.com/3C4hRza.jpg
: http://i.imgur.com/EM77jna.jpg
因為本來還會對她笑表示意識還清楚,突然倒下去就不管了。
倒是車子突然變多比較不合理,但我認為這是必要的戲劇手法。
如果是別齣設定為現實的戲,我也會大喊好扯,但就因為是後設的W,我反而覺得很有趣
,
漫畫會自己演,明明白白告訴你這就是戲劇效果。
: 不合理5.
: 姜哲是怎麼回到現實的世界呢?回到現實世界他怎麼打電話給妍珠的?又是哪裡來的車
子
: 呢?
因為阿爸在給姜哲的信上改了設定,讓姜哲成為真人,自己成為漫畫角色消失。
但姜哲必須在漫畫世界贖罪(這點要給宋編一百個讚,果然沒讓我失望),
才能自我召喚到現實世界,出獄以後大概也是帶著錢來的,
可是如果還要演他在漫畫世界出獄、去ATM領錢,不是太跳tone了嗎,腦補比較美啦。
其實我認為所謂的「現實」世界只是「妍珠」的世界,或者說W電視劇的世界,
並不是你我的世界,它其實還是一齣科幻戲劇。洙豐開始旁白說漫畫其實不是SE的時候,
我懷疑過會不會洙豐才是第三個世界的創作者,但是後面沒有其他線索了,
我就暫時保留這個想法吧。我想宋編沒有要講明白的意思,這樣講太傷影迷的心了。
: 問題1、
: 想請教大家,姜哲給妍珠媽媽的名片是什麼名片?是幫教授簽名的那張名片嗎?
: http://i.imgur.com/GwHav0d.jpg
: http://i.imgur.com/f6DeRSZ.jpg
是,所以他出獄以後一定是回家收拾過行李的。
(再買一次戒指?過季三年了還買得到嗎XDD)
: 另外心得~這也不算100%的happy ending,雖然有情人終於眷屬,但爸爸卻自我犧牲,
爸
: 爸去哪兒?為什麼會人間蒸發,不能ㄧ起回到現實啊!還妍珠阿爸來阿!
: http://i.imgur.com/WoFybA7.jpg
: 不過阿爸犧牲總比姜哲犧牲好啦!
: 轉換心情,來看嫉妒的化身EP7了
看到阿爸消失,我的腦海立刻浮現羅蘭巴特的「作者已死」這句話,
W漫畫其實是開放結局,最後一幕姜哲只是昏倒,沒有確定死亡,
這時作者死了(消失了),後面真正的結局就任由讀者/觀眾想像/詮釋了,
宋編幫我們想了一個,是大部分觀眾都喜歡的HE,我覺得很好啊。
我還要推一下導演/編劇最後一幕的處理,在夕陽下平淡(也甜蜜)的結束,
為什麼是夕陽呢?畫面色調昏黃,符合最後這幾集的氣氛,
觀眾還在傷心阿爸消失,氣氛突然變得亮麗活潑也很奇怪,
在淡淡的悲傷中甜甜結束,我想不出更好的終幕了。
這一個多月追on檔好累,第一次這麼投入在韓劇板推文,
甚至浮上水面回了兩次文,隨時隨地在看韓劇板,
謝謝大家發的圖文和討論,這段時間很幸福。
最後我想說,看完結局,我可以安心把W收為心目中的神劇了,
(和九回、聽見你的聲音、皮諾丘、沒關係是愛情並列),
比起同樣有刺激的反轉同樣科幻的Signal,
我的神劇標準是發人深省,不斷挑戰觀眾的價值觀、刺激思考,
(Signal要說的東西跟一般的警匪劇沒有差別,只是戲劇手法比較特別而已),
宋編我愛你!
--
借penny257大的文說說我的理解和心得:
※ 引述《penny257 (penny)》之銘言:
: 不合理1.
: 姜哲明明就是自投羅網去送死的,明知道議員是大壞蛋來的,怎麼不先下手為強,還讓
議
: 員開了一槍,自我犧牲也不要讓議員統治哪世界啊!姜哲既然射殺了議員的兩個手下,
那
: 為什麼不射殺議員呢?
因為他沒想到議員已經從道允那裡問出真相、變身成大魔王,
以為帶著隨身碟去威脅他就夠了。他並沒有想要自我犧牲讓議員統治世界啊。
射殺那兩個手下是不得已,頭兩個是情急之下射到心臟位置,
後來在樓梯口又碰到兩個,第一個他刻意射腿,第二個沒子彈了赤手空拳打。
濫殺無辜就不是姜哲了,他行事會盡可能循正道。
: 不合理2.
: 昨晚live版看大家討論的,議員這麼容易解決,怎麼不讓他早點死...
同上,非到最後不會隨便讓人死。阿爸也是聽到姜哲中槍,知道已經沒辦法了,
所以下定決心和議員同歸於盡。
他以前犯過隨意賜死角色的錯(但是意志不堅定,敗給鋼鐵姜哲),
怎麼可以再次犯錯呢,雖然小黑殺過很多人,但阿爸這才第二次,要下很大決心的。
: 不合理3?
: 妍珠開車要去找姜哲那段,妍珠車子也開太慢了吧!爸爸已經解決完議員,在開車過去
,
: 都還看到妍珠剛到不趕快過馬路,妍珠你也開太慢了吧!
: http://i.imgur.com/R2VaMnG.jpg
妍珠從旅館出發的時候還不知道姜哲在哪裡,只是漫無目標亂開,
這期間阿爸在旅館裡解決議員,而姜哲正在昏迷(說自己睡了很久所以沒接電話),
等他醒過來告訴妍珠位置以後,妍珠也通知了道允,道允通知阿爸。
: 不合理4.
: 昨天live版一堆推文,妍珠別太遵守交通規則了吧!看到姜哲在對面,管他來往的車子
,
: 應該立刻衝過去!要衝怎麼不早點衝
: http://i.imgur.com/3C4hRza.jpg
: http://i.imgur.com/EM77jna.jpg
因為本來還會對她笑表示意識還清楚,突然倒下去就不管了。
倒是車子突然變多比較不合理,但我認為這是必要的戲劇手法。
如果是別齣設定為現實的戲,我也會大喊好扯,但就因為是後設的W,我反而覺得很有趣
,
漫畫會自己演,明明白白告訴你這就是戲劇效果。
: 不合理5.
: 姜哲是怎麼回到現實的世界呢?回到現實世界他怎麼打電話給妍珠的?又是哪裡來的車
子
: 呢?
因為阿爸在給姜哲的信上改了設定,讓姜哲成為真人,自己成為漫畫角色消失。
但姜哲必須在漫畫世界贖罪(這點要給宋編一百個讚,果然沒讓我失望),
才能自我召喚到現實世界,出獄以後大概也是帶著錢來的,
可是如果還要演他在漫畫世界出獄、去ATM領錢,不是太跳tone了嗎,腦補比較美啦。
其實我認為所謂的「現實」世界只是「妍珠」的世界,或者說W電視劇的世界,
並不是你我的世界,它其實還是一齣科幻戲劇。洙豐開始旁白說漫畫其實不是SE的時候,
我懷疑過會不會洙豐才是第三個世界的創作者,但是後面沒有其他線索了,
我就暫時保留這個想法吧。我想宋編沒有要講明白的意思,這樣講太傷影迷的心了。
: 問題1、
: 想請教大家,姜哲給妍珠媽媽的名片是什麼名片?是幫教授簽名的那張名片嗎?
: http://i.imgur.com/GwHav0d.jpg
: http://i.imgur.com/f6DeRSZ.jpg
是,所以他出獄以後一定是回家收拾過行李的。
(再買一次戒指?過季三年了還買得到嗎XDD)
: 另外心得~這也不算100%的happy ending,雖然有情人終於眷屬,但爸爸卻自我犧牲,
爸
: 爸去哪兒?為什麼會人間蒸發,不能ㄧ起回到現實啊!還妍珠阿爸來阿!
: http://i.imgur.com/WoFybA7.jpg
: 不過阿爸犧牲總比姜哲犧牲好啦!
: 轉換心情,來看嫉妒的化身EP7了
看到阿爸消失,我的腦海立刻浮現羅蘭巴特的「作者已死」這句話,
W漫畫其實是開放結局,最後一幕姜哲只是昏倒,沒有確定死亡,
這時作者死了(消失了),後面真正的結局就任由讀者/觀眾想像/詮釋了,
宋編幫我們想了一個,是大部分觀眾都喜歡的HE,我覺得很好啊。
我還要推一下導演/編劇最後一幕的處理,在夕陽下平淡(也甜蜜)的結束,
為什麼是夕陽呢?畫面色調昏黃,符合最後這幾集的氣氛,
觀眾還在傷心阿爸消失,氣氛突然變得亮麗活潑也很奇怪,
在淡淡的悲傷中甜甜結束,我想不出更好的終幕了。
這一個多月追on檔好累,第一次這麼投入在韓劇板推文,
甚至浮上水面回了兩次文,隨時隨地在看韓劇板,
謝謝大家發的圖文和討論,這段時間很幸福。
最後我想說,看完結局,我可以安心把W收為心目中的神劇了,
(和九回、聽見你的聲音、皮諾丘、沒關係是愛情並列),
比起同樣有刺激的反轉同樣科幻的Signal,
我的神劇標準是發人深省,不斷挑戰觀眾的價值觀、刺激思考,
(Signal要說的東西跟一般的警匪劇沒有差別,只是戲劇手法比較特別而已),
宋編我愛你!
--
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