「X戰警」宣材惹禍 片商道歉 - 電影
By Ophelia
at 2016-06-06T14:16
at 2016-06-06T14:16
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: 在「X戰警:天啟」中,奧斯卡艾薩克飾演沉睡數千年再甦醒的變種人,為地球帶來毀滅
: 危機,X戰警必須聯手防止災難發生,在交戰過程中,彼此互相使出致命絕招在所難免,
: 觀眾看完整部片也不見得會記住魔形女什麼時候被他掐住脖子,未必會讓人有那麼強烈的
: 反感。但「男女平權」近來是熱門話題,蘿絲麥考文藉題發揮,很快得到不少網友聲援,
: 逼得福斯不得不出面道歉。
: 然而也有人冷靜分析,珍妮佛勞倫斯畢竟是片中最閃亮的紅星,不拿她的畫面來宣傳,難
: 道主打其他人?況且根據情節,雙方生死相拚,招招都只求讓對方致命,怎麼可能一團和
: 氣?更有人反問:「假使是男的被掐住脖子,大家還會覺得有事嗎?」
看了看大家的反應,完全不意外,台灣的性別意識和平權觀念就是這麼落後。
但是在進入正題之前,我要先指出另一個問題:
那就是撰文記者完全不具備任何新聞倫理,立場偏頗而且毫不掩飾。
在報導最後引用網友意見就算了(雖然網友看法也有問題,我後面再說明)
但什麼是「蘿絲麥考文藉題發揮」啊?「也有人冷靜分析」又是怎麼回事?
記者可以這樣直接介入自己的價值判斷,然後在報導裡面明示暗示嗎?
更別說看完這篇報導,我們連蘿絲麥考文的論點是什麼都不知道啊...。
台灣的問題,這些記者根本要負起八成的責任!
: → lym0715: 有事嗎= = 電影正片都不准打女人好不好 06/06 10:11
: → henrry2220: ...男生打來打去就都行?某些平權人士想法真的op 06/06 10:16
: 推 gunng: 要不要想一想為什麼那一幕天啟掐魔形女的原因? 06/06 10:29
: 推 ringtweety: 反派可以隨意開火 毀滅地球 破壞生態 但不能掐女生 06/06 10:44
: → Davidgood: 可以殺人,殺一百個都沒關係,但不能掐脖子,啾咪 ^.< 06/06 10:45
: → scott90213: 天啟最後還被女性打爆了呢 怎麼不提呢 06/06 11:46
: 推 tokyo730714: 如果換成一個白人掐黑人 寫強者生存的話…… 06/06 12:06
整理了一下推文,大概有這幾種反駁,它們各有些許問題,我會一一討論。
不過在回應這些反駁之前,我們還是先來看看蘿絲麥考文的論點吧。
"There is a major problem when the men and women at 20th Century Fox think
casual violence against women is the way to market a film. There is no
context in the ad, just a woman getting strangled. The fact that no one
flagged this is offensive and frankly, stupid. The geniuses behind this, and
I use that term lightly, need to to take a long hard look at the mirror and
see how they are contributing to society. Imagine if it were a black man
being strangled by a white man, or a gay male being strangled by a hetero?
The outcry would be enormous."
因為翻譯很麻煩,所以我只標重點。
重點是,這個廣告沒有其他資訊,只看到一個男的掐住一個女的。
還有,如果是白人掐住黑人,或是異性戀掐住同性戀,她認為會有更大的反彈。
而最關鍵的是,福斯認為這個影像有助於影片宣傳。
所以電影裡面,最後天啟被鳳凰打敗了,或是天啟還做了其他壞事,都不是有效的辯護,
因為她批評的不是「這部電影」而是「這個海報」,我想區別是很明顯的。
(因此拿出其他電影裡面,男人被施暴,或者女人掌握優勢的影像也沒有意義)
再來,如果是白人掐黑人呢?她也認為有問題,所以這個歸謬也是無效的。
那麼為什麼很多人在意這個廣告呢?因為這個「選擇」背後代表的意思。
也就是「對女人施暴的影像可以刺激影片的銷售」,當然這可以有兩個反駁,一個是珍妮
佛勞倫斯的票房號召力,另一個是也有男人對男人的施暴,重點在暴力不在對象。
然而前者的問題是,珍妮佛勞倫斯在影片裡面明明有其他表現,大可不用選擇這張。後者
的問題是,現在就沒有這樣的廣告啊(國外討論區有人不少人的主張是,他們不曾看過影
片宣傳照是男人掐住另一個男人,或者儘管有但比例懸殊)
最後,很多人可能不同意,但是「男人可以對女人施暴」在某些社群還是被視為理所當然
的觀念,也許不是台灣,也許不是會上批踢踢的知識族群,但這是確實存在的事實。
如果女人地位真的和男人平等了,那麼在真平權的世界裡面,這個海報當然沒問題。
但我們,或者說這個世界,就不是那樣的世界。
也許你覺得你的生活周遭男女已經很平等,但是這個海報不是只在你的生活周遭被呈現。
--
: 危機,X戰警必須聯手防止災難發生,在交戰過程中,彼此互相使出致命絕招在所難免,
: 觀眾看完整部片也不見得會記住魔形女什麼時候被他掐住脖子,未必會讓人有那麼強烈的
: 反感。但「男女平權」近來是熱門話題,蘿絲麥考文藉題發揮,很快得到不少網友聲援,
: 逼得福斯不得不出面道歉。
: 然而也有人冷靜分析,珍妮佛勞倫斯畢竟是片中最閃亮的紅星,不拿她的畫面來宣傳,難
: 道主打其他人?況且根據情節,雙方生死相拚,招招都只求讓對方致命,怎麼可能一團和
: 氣?更有人反問:「假使是男的被掐住脖子,大家還會覺得有事嗎?」
看了看大家的反應,完全不意外,台灣的性別意識和平權觀念就是這麼落後。
但是在進入正題之前,我要先指出另一個問題:
那就是撰文記者完全不具備任何新聞倫理,立場偏頗而且毫不掩飾。
在報導最後引用網友意見就算了(雖然網友看法也有問題,我後面再說明)
但什麼是「蘿絲麥考文藉題發揮」啊?「也有人冷靜分析」又是怎麼回事?
記者可以這樣直接介入自己的價值判斷,然後在報導裡面明示暗示嗎?
更別說看完這篇報導,我們連蘿絲麥考文的論點是什麼都不知道啊...。
台灣的問題,這些記者根本要負起八成的責任!
: → lym0715: 有事嗎= = 電影正片都不准打女人好不好 06/06 10:11
: → henrry2220: ...男生打來打去就都行?某些平權人士想法真的op 06/06 10:16
: 推 gunng: 要不要想一想為什麼那一幕天啟掐魔形女的原因? 06/06 10:29
: 推 ringtweety: 反派可以隨意開火 毀滅地球 破壞生態 但不能掐女生 06/06 10:44
: → Davidgood: 可以殺人,殺一百個都沒關係,但不能掐脖子,啾咪 ^.< 06/06 10:45
: → scott90213: 天啟最後還被女性打爆了呢 怎麼不提呢 06/06 11:46
: 推 tokyo730714: 如果換成一個白人掐黑人 寫強者生存的話…… 06/06 12:06
整理了一下推文,大概有這幾種反駁,它們各有些許問題,我會一一討論。
不過在回應這些反駁之前,我們還是先來看看蘿絲麥考文的論點吧。
"There is a major problem when the men and women at 20th Century Fox think
casual violence against women is the way to market a film. There is no
context in the ad, just a woman getting strangled. The fact that no one
flagged this is offensive and frankly, stupid. The geniuses behind this, and
I use that term lightly, need to to take a long hard look at the mirror and
see how they are contributing to society. Imagine if it were a black man
being strangled by a white man, or a gay male being strangled by a hetero?
The outcry would be enormous."
因為翻譯很麻煩,所以我只標重點。
重點是,這個廣告沒有其他資訊,只看到一個男的掐住一個女的。
還有,如果是白人掐住黑人,或是異性戀掐住同性戀,她認為會有更大的反彈。
而最關鍵的是,福斯認為這個影像有助於影片宣傳。
所以電影裡面,最後天啟被鳳凰打敗了,或是天啟還做了其他壞事,都不是有效的辯護,
因為她批評的不是「這部電影」而是「這個海報」,我想區別是很明顯的。
(因此拿出其他電影裡面,男人被施暴,或者女人掌握優勢的影像也沒有意義)
再來,如果是白人掐黑人呢?她也認為有問題,所以這個歸謬也是無效的。
那麼為什麼很多人在意這個廣告呢?因為這個「選擇」背後代表的意思。
也就是「對女人施暴的影像可以刺激影片的銷售」,當然這可以有兩個反駁,一個是珍妮
佛勞倫斯的票房號召力,另一個是也有男人對男人的施暴,重點在暴力不在對象。
然而前者的問題是,珍妮佛勞倫斯在影片裡面明明有其他表現,大可不用選擇這張。後者
的問題是,現在就沒有這樣的廣告啊(國外討論區有人不少人的主張是,他們不曾看過影
片宣傳照是男人掐住另一個男人,或者儘管有但比例懸殊)
最後,很多人可能不同意,但是「男人可以對女人施暴」在某些社群還是被視為理所當然
的觀念,也許不是台灣,也許不是會上批踢踢的知識族群,但這是確實存在的事實。
如果女人地位真的和男人平等了,那麼在真平權的世界裡面,這個海報當然沒問題。
但我們,或者說這個世界,就不是那樣的世界。
也許你覺得你的生活周遭男女已經很平等,但是這個海報不是只在你的生活周遭被呈現。
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