台北[2014/2/28~3/2] KANO冠軍 - 電影
By Olga
at 2014-03-04T06:26
at 2014-03-04T06:26
Table of Contents
※ 引述《ikoyumi (小喚)》之銘言:
: 我覺得「媚日」這個標籤真的有影響
: 尤其不是人人都會上ptt看評價
: 我推薦給身邊的好友 有兩個就提到 看新聞說片子媚日所以猶豫不太想看
: 他們還都是不關心政治的人 只是國民教育的國仇家恨讀得太認真
看到這個,我不覺得他們是國仇家恨教科書讀得很認真
要是國仇家恨對這麼多人內心有影響的話
氾濫的中國抗日劇早就被台灣的電視台一古腦兒引進了
天天殺日本鬼子應該對他們有療癒的作用才對
但偏偏台灣人不吃日本鬼子罪該萬死那一套
不然不會發生要查台灣出品的抗日愛國劇大宗,
得從1970年代中美斷交、被踢出聯合國後,才因政府之故大量製造
但是我認為全台灣心理矛盾的人不少
以電視劇來說,當初《步步驚心》、《後宮甄嬛傳》在台灣爆紅
天天新聞洗版的時候
一方面有媒體、製作人跟民眾舉著大旗
酸言酸語或是嗆說台灣拍不了歷史大片
理由不外乎是中國地大物博,影城規模宏偉,才能拍出那種大片,看看中國劇組考據多深
blah、blah、blah.......
但是仔細去探究這些人的論點
其實他們的新聞或文章完全忽視所謂的歷史劇背景,是指什麼地方、什麼年代的歷史劇
甚至也沒人敢講明他們所期望在台灣本土拍攝的的電視、電影,如果是歷史類題材
那麼取材到底是要拿中國漢唐宋元明清大做文章呢?還是以台灣的荷鄭清日民當題材?
以前者為拍攝主題,完全在台灣製作,八成是瘋子嫌錢太多沒處花
很難說服人不去中國的影視基地,全在台灣搭景製作
以後者來說,同樣需要考據能力,卻長期受到台灣影視製作者的忽視,
若不是解嚴後新電影浪潮跟90年代鄉土劇盛行,恐怕相關題材的節目更難出現
但整體拍攝的數量、聲勢跟考據功力卻相對發展很遲緩
現在有了大成本的《賽德克巴萊》、《KANO》
其歷史背景據今也才八十幾年而已,
但是你看幕後花絮的介紹,還不是花了許多功夫跟金錢在考據當時的社會面貌上
結果那票媒體跟抗議人士沒看電影也就算了,還在那嗆「日語太多,所以是媚日云云」
把前年、去年同一批媒體對中國歷史劇在宮廷考據上的厚愛程度,其報導的吹捧力道之大
對照台灣電影劇組同樣在考據上的深刻努力,因此電影內容日語佔比頗多
卻反遭譏諷媚日
這不是很矛盾嗎?
就如同我之前寫的戒嚴時代、白色恐怖明明跟《光陰的故事》同一段時間
但是它照樣可以拍成眷村的美好時代,雖然故事完全虛構,其受人批判的力道卻相對較小
反觀《KANO》聚焦1931年代的棒球盛事,力求真實,卻被某些人要求劇情內容非要加東加
西不可,不然就是戰到底,吵到底
這種大小眼、自我矛盾的態度,個人認為期期以為不可,根本阻礙台灣電影的未來發展
一方面要求台灣影視加強製作功力跟考據,向中國蓬勃發展的影視產業看齊
一方面又要迎合部分異議人士訴求的日治時代背景應當做空氣一樣,不可多拍
那我看要求台灣應多端出歷史題材影視作品的呼聲根本是笑話一樁
就算把同樣的考據功夫花在荷蘭、明鄭、清代背景的作品
大概也會被那些心理矛盾的人給貼上各色標籤
: 我也只好跟他們解釋那只是七八個政治學生沒看過電影跑出來抗議
: 故事本身就是很單純在講某個時代下的故事
: fb上也看到有兩千多粉絲的影評人說如果媚日就會覺得這部片好看
: 我覺得很多因素都會影響
: 這部不只是國片 不是只有支持國片與否 或好不好看的問題
: 而是對於某些只看單一媒體的人來說 對這部片已經有先入為主的想法
: 至於有多感人 他們大概就真的覺得是一群媚日的人才會有感動吧
: 這真的很可惜 可惜了一部好片
: 雖然宣傳很多 可是一點負面宣傳 就足以造成陰影
--
: 我覺得「媚日」這個標籤真的有影響
: 尤其不是人人都會上ptt看評價
: 我推薦給身邊的好友 有兩個就提到 看新聞說片子媚日所以猶豫不太想看
: 他們還都是不關心政治的人 只是國民教育的國仇家恨讀得太認真
看到這個,我不覺得他們是國仇家恨教科書讀得很認真
要是國仇家恨對這麼多人內心有影響的話
氾濫的中國抗日劇早就被台灣的電視台一古腦兒引進了
天天殺日本鬼子應該對他們有療癒的作用才對
但偏偏台灣人不吃日本鬼子罪該萬死那一套
不然不會發生要查台灣出品的抗日愛國劇大宗,
得從1970年代中美斷交、被踢出聯合國後,才因政府之故大量製造
但是我認為全台灣心理矛盾的人不少
以電視劇來說,當初《步步驚心》、《後宮甄嬛傳》在台灣爆紅
天天新聞洗版的時候
一方面有媒體、製作人跟民眾舉著大旗
酸言酸語或是嗆說台灣拍不了歷史大片
理由不外乎是中國地大物博,影城規模宏偉,才能拍出那種大片,看看中國劇組考據多深
blah、blah、blah.......
但是仔細去探究這些人的論點
其實他們的新聞或文章完全忽視所謂的歷史劇背景,是指什麼地方、什麼年代的歷史劇
甚至也沒人敢講明他們所期望在台灣本土拍攝的的電視、電影,如果是歷史類題材
那麼取材到底是要拿中國漢唐宋元明清大做文章呢?還是以台灣的荷鄭清日民當題材?
以前者為拍攝主題,完全在台灣製作,八成是瘋子嫌錢太多沒處花
很難說服人不去中國的影視基地,全在台灣搭景製作
以後者來說,同樣需要考據能力,卻長期受到台灣影視製作者的忽視,
若不是解嚴後新電影浪潮跟90年代鄉土劇盛行,恐怕相關題材的節目更難出現
但整體拍攝的數量、聲勢跟考據功力卻相對發展很遲緩
現在有了大成本的《賽德克巴萊》、《KANO》
其歷史背景據今也才八十幾年而已,
但是你看幕後花絮的介紹,還不是花了許多功夫跟金錢在考據當時的社會面貌上
結果那票媒體跟抗議人士沒看電影也就算了,還在那嗆「日語太多,所以是媚日云云」
把前年、去年同一批媒體對中國歷史劇在宮廷考據上的厚愛程度,其報導的吹捧力道之大
對照台灣電影劇組同樣在考據上的深刻努力,因此電影內容日語佔比頗多
卻反遭譏諷媚日
這不是很矛盾嗎?
就如同我之前寫的戒嚴時代、白色恐怖明明跟《光陰的故事》同一段時間
但是它照樣可以拍成眷村的美好時代,雖然故事完全虛構,其受人批判的力道卻相對較小
反觀《KANO》聚焦1931年代的棒球盛事,力求真實,卻被某些人要求劇情內容非要加東加
西不可,不然就是戰到底,吵到底
這種大小眼、自我矛盾的態度,個人認為期期以為不可,根本阻礙台灣電影的未來發展
一方面要求台灣影視加強製作功力跟考據,向中國蓬勃發展的影視產業看齊
一方面又要迎合部分異議人士訴求的日治時代背景應當做空氣一樣,不可多拍
那我看要求台灣應多端出歷史題材影視作品的呼聲根本是笑話一樁
就算把同樣的考據功夫花在荷蘭、明鄭、清代背景的作品
大概也會被那些心理矛盾的人給貼上各色標籤
: 我也只好跟他們解釋那只是七八個政治學生沒看過電影跑出來抗議
: 故事本身就是很單純在講某個時代下的故事
: fb上也看到有兩千多粉絲的影評人說如果媚日就會覺得這部片好看
: 我覺得很多因素都會影響
: 這部不只是國片 不是只有支持國片與否 或好不好看的問題
: 而是對於某些只看單一媒體的人來說 對這部片已經有先入為主的想法
: 至於有多感人 他們大概就真的覺得是一群媚日的人才會有感動吧
: 這真的很可惜 可惜了一部好片
: 雖然宣傳很多 可是一點負面宣傳 就足以造成陰影
--
Tags:
電影
All Comments
By Sarah
at 2014-03-08T14:38
at 2014-03-08T14:38
By Elizabeth
at 2014-03-13T07:10
at 2014-03-13T07:10
By Xanthe
at 2014-03-15T10:23
at 2014-03-15T10:23
By Liam
at 2014-03-16T17:18
at 2014-03-16T17:18
By Mason
at 2014-03-21T11:09
at 2014-03-21T11:09
By Michael
at 2014-03-23T16:36
at 2014-03-23T16:36
By Daniel
at 2014-03-27T11:08
at 2014-03-27T11:08
By Ursula
at 2014-03-27T14:00
at 2014-03-27T14:00
By Carol
at 2014-03-28T15:40
at 2014-03-28T15:40
By Donna
at 2014-03-30T04:56
at 2014-03-30T04:56
By Catherine
at 2014-04-03T07:46
at 2014-04-03T07:46
By Hamiltion
at 2014-04-07T19:21
at 2014-04-07T19:21
By Edward Lewis
at 2014-04-12T15:09
at 2014-04-12T15:09
By Sandy
at 2014-04-13T15:48
at 2014-04-13T15:48
By Franklin
at 2014-04-15T06:21
at 2014-04-15T06:21
By Tom
at 2014-04-17T20:16
at 2014-04-17T20:16
By Brianna
at 2014-04-22T04:25
at 2014-04-22T04:25
By Olga
at 2014-04-24T13:01
at 2014-04-24T13:01
By Dinah
at 2014-04-28T15:14
at 2014-04-28T15:14
By Thomas
at 2014-05-03T12:51
at 2014-05-03T12:51
By Brianna
at 2014-05-07T20:18
at 2014-05-07T20:18
By Barb Cronin
at 2014-05-12T02:54
at 2014-05-12T02:54
By Caroline
at 2014-05-16T11:37
at 2014-05-16T11:37
By Genevieve
at 2014-05-18T21:58
at 2014-05-18T21:58
By Jessica
at 2014-05-23T07:58
at 2014-05-23T07:58
By Ophelia
at 2014-05-26T23:04
at 2014-05-26T23:04
By Una
at 2014-05-28T15:32
at 2014-05-28T15:32
By Annie
at 2014-05-30T22:03
at 2014-05-30T22:03
By Faithe
at 2014-06-03T00:51
at 2014-06-03T00:51
By Cara
at 2014-06-05T05:21
at 2014-06-05T05:21
By Ivy
at 2014-06-07T19:27
at 2014-06-07T19:27
By Necoo
at 2014-06-07T22:34
at 2014-06-07T22:34
By Emma
at 2014-06-10T13:56
at 2014-06-10T13:56
By Rachel
at 2014-06-13T07:44
at 2014-06-13T07:44
By Noah
at 2014-06-13T15:14
at 2014-06-13T15:14
By Gilbert
at 2014-06-16T14:01
at 2014-06-16T14:01
By Daph Bay
at 2014-06-20T18:57
at 2014-06-20T18:57
By Emma
at 2014-06-25T11:56
at 2014-06-25T11:56
By Hedda
at 2014-06-25T13:25
at 2014-06-25T13:25
By Suhail Hany
at 2014-06-26T07:01
at 2014-06-26T07:01
By Jessica
at 2014-06-29T15:45
at 2014-06-29T15:45
By Odelette
at 2014-07-03T04:49
at 2014-07-03T04:49
By Adele
at 2014-07-03T18:22
at 2014-07-03T18:22
By Damian
at 2014-07-08T07:20
at 2014-07-08T07:20
By Puput
at 2014-07-12T16:46
at 2014-07-12T16:46
By Sandy
at 2014-07-16T17:20
at 2014-07-16T17:20
By Gilbert
at 2014-07-17T11:17
at 2014-07-17T11:17
By Barb Cronin
at 2014-07-20T04:56
at 2014-07-20T04:56
By Heather
at 2014-07-21T08:45
at 2014-07-21T08:45
By David
at 2014-07-24T11:32
at 2014-07-24T11:32
By Carol
at 2014-07-24T21:35
at 2014-07-24T21:35
By Emily
at 2014-07-28T06:54
at 2014-07-28T06:54
By Genevieve
at 2014-07-30T11:53
at 2014-07-30T11:53
By Agnes
at 2014-07-30T21:57
at 2014-07-30T21:57
By Leila
at 2014-08-04T21:10
at 2014-08-04T21:10
By Carol
at 2014-08-05T15:51
at 2014-08-05T15:51
By Anonymous
at 2014-08-09T00:19
at 2014-08-09T00:19
By Isabella
at 2014-08-10T19:26
at 2014-08-10T19:26
By Bethany
at 2014-08-11T11:40
at 2014-08-11T11:40
By Odelette
at 2014-08-14T11:07
at 2014-08-14T11:07
By Donna
at 2014-08-18T06:07
at 2014-08-18T06:07
By Jessica
at 2014-08-19T08:54
at 2014-08-19T08:54
By Genevieve
at 2014-08-21T03:05
at 2014-08-21T03:05
By Poppy
at 2014-08-22T09:48
at 2014-08-22T09:48
By Eden
at 2014-08-23T03:40
at 2014-08-23T03:40
By Enid
at 2014-08-26T16:45
at 2014-08-26T16:45
By Isabella
at 2014-08-31T00:50
at 2014-08-31T00:50
By Joe
at 2014-09-04T22:48
at 2014-09-04T22:48
By Yuri
at 2014-09-08T01:24
at 2014-09-08T01:24
By Sandy
at 2014-09-12T14:39
at 2014-09-12T14:39
By Barb Cronin
at 2014-09-16T22:39
at 2014-09-16T22:39
By James
at 2014-09-20T22:23
at 2014-09-20T22:23
By Dorothy
at 2014-09-21T19:40
at 2014-09-21T19:40
By Candice
at 2014-09-23T00:02
at 2014-09-23T00:02
By Damian
at 2014-09-25T04:00
at 2014-09-25T04:00
By Lily
at 2014-09-26T18:50
at 2014-09-26T18:50
By Caroline
at 2014-09-27T20:04
at 2014-09-27T20:04
By Rachel
at 2014-10-01T04:24
at 2014-10-01T04:24
By Elvira
at 2014-10-01T10:49
at 2014-10-01T10:49
By Jacob
at 2014-10-04T03:22
at 2014-10-04T03:22
By Audriana
at 2014-10-05T05:14
at 2014-10-05T05:14
By Annie
at 2014-10-10T02:38
at 2014-10-10T02:38
By Annie
at 2014-10-14T09:35
at 2014-10-14T09:35
By Edward Lewis
at 2014-10-16T13:37
at 2014-10-16T13:37
By Linda
at 2014-10-17T03:18
at 2014-10-17T03:18
By Lydia
at 2014-10-18T20:16
at 2014-10-18T20:16
By Dorothy
at 2014-10-20T07:35
at 2014-10-20T07:35
By Adele
at 2014-10-21T01:25
at 2014-10-21T01:25
By Ula
at 2014-10-24T02:27
at 2014-10-24T02:27
By Ina
at 2014-10-27T01:09
at 2014-10-27T01:09
By Kelly
at 2014-10-31T05:31
at 2014-10-31T05:31
By Oscar
at 2014-11-03T13:28
at 2014-11-03T13:28
By Isabella
at 2014-11-04T11:58
at 2014-11-04T11:58
By Anonymous
at 2014-11-08T07:25
at 2014-11-08T07:25
By Gilbert
at 2014-11-10T03:45
at 2014-11-10T03:45
By Ursula
at 2014-11-12T19:05
at 2014-11-12T19:05
By Gilbert
at 2014-11-15T17:22
at 2014-11-15T17:22
By Callum
at 2014-11-15T22:46
at 2014-11-15T22:46
By Ingrid
at 2014-11-20T21:16
at 2014-11-20T21:16
By Zenobia
at 2014-11-24T11:48
at 2014-11-24T11:48
By Candice
at 2014-11-26T10:30
at 2014-11-26T10:30
By Erin
at 2014-11-28T02:44
at 2014-11-28T02:44
By Hedy
at 2014-12-01T21:54
at 2014-12-01T21:54
By Erin
at 2014-12-05T19:47
at 2014-12-05T19:47
By Elizabeth
at 2014-12-06T23:14
at 2014-12-06T23:14
By Megan
at 2014-12-10T01:50
at 2014-12-10T01:50
By Wallis
at 2014-12-11T18:55
at 2014-12-11T18:55
By Leila
at 2014-12-14T17:30
at 2014-12-14T17:30
By Frederic
at 2014-12-16T00:04
at 2014-12-16T00:04
By Audriana
at 2014-12-18T04:01
at 2014-12-18T04:01
By Tom
at 2014-12-20T09:55
at 2014-12-20T09:55
By Valerie
at 2014-12-21T16:47
at 2014-12-21T16:47
By Mason
at 2014-12-26T08:35
at 2014-12-26T08:35
By Vanessa
at 2014-12-28T23:46
at 2014-12-28T23:46
By Zora
at 2014-12-30T03:35
at 2014-12-30T03:35
By Christine
at 2015-01-01T05:52
at 2015-01-01T05:52
By Queena
at 2015-01-03T22:25
at 2015-01-03T22:25
By Franklin
at 2015-01-07T05:44
at 2015-01-07T05:44
By Annie
at 2015-01-08T03:53
at 2015-01-08T03:53
By Selena
at 2015-01-12T12:19
at 2015-01-12T12:19
By Joseph
at 2015-01-12T17:34
at 2015-01-12T17:34
By Candice
at 2015-01-14T03:55
at 2015-01-14T03:55
By Sandy
at 2015-01-19T03:49
at 2015-01-19T03:49
By Megan
at 2015-01-20T14:15
at 2015-01-20T14:15
By Oliver
at 2015-01-23T22:50
at 2015-01-23T22:50
By Steve
at 2015-01-27T19:06
at 2015-01-27T19:06
By Freda
at 2015-01-28T05:56
at 2015-01-28T05:56
By Necoo
at 2015-01-28T13:23
at 2015-01-28T13:23
By Robert
at 2015-02-01T13:38
at 2015-02-01T13:38
By Enid
at 2015-02-06T04:50
at 2015-02-06T04:50
By Hazel
at 2015-02-08T01:59
at 2015-02-08T01:59
By Jessica
at 2015-02-12T11:17
at 2015-02-12T11:17
By Dinah
at 2015-02-15T14:30
at 2015-02-15T14:30
By Aaliyah
at 2015-02-17T22:07
at 2015-02-17T22:07
By Sierra Rose
at 2015-02-18T15:58
at 2015-02-18T15:58
By Christine
at 2015-02-21T21:13
at 2015-02-21T21:13
By Mary
at 2015-02-25T19:53
at 2015-02-25T19:53
By Puput
at 2015-02-28T22:57
at 2015-02-28T22:57
By Ivy
at 2015-03-05T15:57
at 2015-03-05T15:57
By Catherine
at 2015-03-07T12:27
at 2015-03-07T12:27
By Rachel
at 2015-03-07T20:37
at 2015-03-07T20:37
By Christine
at 2015-03-10T21:02
at 2015-03-10T21:02
By Mary
at 2015-03-15T08:03
at 2015-03-15T08:03
By Oscar
at 2015-03-15T19:44
at 2015-03-15T19:44
By Hedda
at 2015-03-20T05:42
at 2015-03-20T05:42
By Annie
at 2015-03-22T19:15
at 2015-03-22T19:15
Related Posts
看完KANO有感
By Oscar
at 2014-03-04T04:10
at 2014-03-04T04:10
李奧皮卡丘要用甚麼方法才能得獎?
By Donna
at 2014-03-04T04:01
at 2014-03-04T04:01
KANO二刷心得
By Hamiltion
at 2014-03-04T02:12
at 2014-03-04T02:12
KANO-聽一個故事的感動
By Annie
at 2014-03-04T02:12
at 2014-03-04T02:12
自由之心ꀠ- 比Crash還更讓我對奧斯卡
By Ingrid
at 2014-03-04T01:44
at 2014-03-04T01:44