大同大學三弦座談會(上半場) - 布袋戲

By Suhail Hany
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: Q7:怎樣算是比較失控的主角威能?
: A7:你的故事講得不順暢,你給予了主角過多的好運,和超出他天賦的能力。過多的好運
: 不是石頭落下時你千鈞一髮開車開過去,是你的故事當中存在太多巧合,你的事件經歷是
: 發生很多很多巧合。你遇到什麼人,什麼人都愛你,那就是外掛。
大家安安, 看到這裡有關主角威能就讓我有點想法想說.
三弦說的這種主角威能是屬於龍傲天型的主角威能. 所有的一切都會被強猛硬霸的主角
搞定, 妹子會自己貼過來, 敵人最後變成好基友什麼之類的就不多說了.
可是我認為金光的主角威能問題不在這裡, 但是依然很嚴重.
這大概要從金光的劇情演變開始講起. 從決戰時刻開始基本上是中原視角, 所謂的群俠
(當然是指史家一幫人為首包含獨眼龍燕陀龍等人.恩?怎麼都龍?)對抗外來侵略的故事.
這時期史爸也不會是惟一顯眼的主角. 黑白變型合體劇 赤溫等人的對決等都是呈現
整體的時代演變. 就算是還沒露出愉悅表情的目小溫也沒有成為全劇惟一的重心.
就算史藏2人我們知道他們會是不死系預定也依然會為他們緊張擔心.
可是當來到墨家線之後事情就開始發生變化了. 先說了, 我最喜歡的金光腳色和劇情
就是默教授. 可是當鉅子的身份交託到俏身上之後, 事情就開始慢慢變化了.
在老大和鼻孔玄退場之前, 九算對俏的壓制和雙方互角仍算是有來有往. 因此還沒有
那麼強烈的引人注意. 可是當九算退場或者和俏同路之後, 劇情線以俏為核心推動的
走向卻越來越明顯. 三弦的說法:因為他活下來了, 故事才是以他為主角. 這種思考方式
我是持反對態度的. 我在地門開始的劇情看到的感覺是, 因為他是俏如來, 所以他
會活下來. 因為他是墨家鉅子 因為他要保護中原 保護九界和平. 因為他滅魔大業未成
甚至可以說墨狂還在他身上所以他不會死也不能死.
但是這樣的走向真的好嗎? 劇情線開始被俏如來拖著走, 其他人不是成為依賴俏如來的
無能者, 就是成為有能但刻意安排束手旁觀. 這就是為什麼俏如來的老馬,
第一次出謀劃策肯定會失敗的印象被觀眾越來越深刻的記憶的原因. 可是弔詭的是
這樣的俏身上主角光環反而更重了. 為什麼? 因為他不必為他的失敗付出有感的代價!
對打地門失敗 還被地門洗腦的他失去了什麼? 沒有!
被玄之玄婊到的他失去了什麼? 沒有!
阻止不了元邪皇破六絕禁地的他失去了什麼? 沒有!
你們可能會問? 阿霞不是死了嗎? 薩垛三尊不是死了嗎? 中原百姓不是死了嗎?
對! 他們都死了! 他們有一天都會死! 可是那與俏何干? 劇情表現真的有俏為此
承受"代價"的感覺嗎? 沒有!
因為俏如來在, 所以一切都會很好. 九界巡迴必定會成功(至少一到二界) 看起來如何不穩
, 有多少陰謀詭計最後都會被俏解決. 當你的劇情表現給觀眾這樣的主觀印象時那不叫
主角威能那還叫什麼?
現在的海境, 我用激進一點的說法來講, 敗筆其實就是在俏如來登場這件事上面!
因為俏的出現嚴重限制了劇情發展的可能性. 當俏出現時, 就鎖死了多少結局的可能性?
這就是為什麼海境王子做不了大亂, 他們背後的各方陰謀交錯也顯得毫無緊張感.
甚至角色魅力和深度都無法發揮. 因為萬能的俏鉅子100%會搞定你們這些人.
套用英雄學院的台詞:"不用擔心. 因為, 我來了!"
諷刺的是, 英雄學院的歐爾麥特出現給大家更多新的期待. 是希望般的存在.
但俏的出現卻削弱了劇情的可能性. 如果不能克服這個問題, 擺脫以俏為中心的路線
那最後俏只會成為另一個觀眾不想看到的人氣主角而已.
--
所有的人都死了 所有的人都會死
俏如來會死在天擎峽 你率領的主力魔兵會死在葬骨嶺 而你 會死在這裡
我 默蒼離 將成為消滅魔世的英雄 成為中原最後的領導者
墨家 終於不用被歷史沉埋!
<止戈流‧開陣>
--
: A7:你的故事講得不順暢,你給予了主角過多的好運,和超出他天賦的能力。過多的好運
: 不是石頭落下時你千鈞一髮開車開過去,是你的故事當中存在太多巧合,你的事件經歷是
: 發生很多很多巧合。你遇到什麼人,什麼人都愛你,那就是外掛。
大家安安, 看到這裡有關主角威能就讓我有點想法想說.
三弦說的這種主角威能是屬於龍傲天型的主角威能. 所有的一切都會被強猛硬霸的主角
搞定, 妹子會自己貼過來, 敵人最後變成好基友什麼之類的就不多說了.
可是我認為金光的主角威能問題不在這裡, 但是依然很嚴重.
這大概要從金光的劇情演變開始講起. 從決戰時刻開始基本上是中原視角, 所謂的群俠
(當然是指史家一幫人為首包含獨眼龍燕陀龍等人.恩?怎麼都龍?)對抗外來侵略的故事.
這時期史爸也不會是惟一顯眼的主角. 黑白變型合體劇 赤溫等人的對決等都是呈現
整體的時代演變. 就算是還沒露出愉悅表情的目小溫也沒有成為全劇惟一的重心.
就算史藏2人我們知道他們會是不死系預定也依然會為他們緊張擔心.
可是當來到墨家線之後事情就開始發生變化了. 先說了, 我最喜歡的金光腳色和劇情
就是默教授. 可是當鉅子的身份交託到俏身上之後, 事情就開始慢慢變化了.
在老大和鼻孔玄退場之前, 九算對俏的壓制和雙方互角仍算是有來有往. 因此還沒有
那麼強烈的引人注意. 可是當九算退場或者和俏同路之後, 劇情線以俏為核心推動的
走向卻越來越明顯. 三弦的說法:因為他活下來了, 故事才是以他為主角. 這種思考方式
我是持反對態度的. 我在地門開始的劇情看到的感覺是, 因為他是俏如來, 所以他
會活下來. 因為他是墨家鉅子 因為他要保護中原 保護九界和平. 因為他滅魔大業未成
甚至可以說墨狂還在他身上所以他不會死也不能死.
但是這樣的走向真的好嗎? 劇情線開始被俏如來拖著走, 其他人不是成為依賴俏如來的
無能者, 就是成為有能但刻意安排束手旁觀. 這就是為什麼俏如來的老馬,
第一次出謀劃策肯定會失敗的印象被觀眾越來越深刻的記憶的原因. 可是弔詭的是
這樣的俏身上主角光環反而更重了. 為什麼? 因為他不必為他的失敗付出有感的代價!
對打地門失敗 還被地門洗腦的他失去了什麼? 沒有!
被玄之玄婊到的他失去了什麼? 沒有!
阻止不了元邪皇破六絕禁地的他失去了什麼? 沒有!
你們可能會問? 阿霞不是死了嗎? 薩垛三尊不是死了嗎? 中原百姓不是死了嗎?
對! 他們都死了! 他們有一天都會死! 可是那與俏何干? 劇情表現真的有俏為此
承受"代價"的感覺嗎? 沒有!
因為俏如來在, 所以一切都會很好. 九界巡迴必定會成功(至少一到二界) 看起來如何不穩
, 有多少陰謀詭計最後都會被俏解決. 當你的劇情表現給觀眾這樣的主觀印象時那不叫
主角威能那還叫什麼?
現在的海境, 我用激進一點的說法來講, 敗筆其實就是在俏如來登場這件事上面!
因為俏的出現嚴重限制了劇情發展的可能性. 當俏出現時, 就鎖死了多少結局的可能性?
這就是為什麼海境王子做不了大亂, 他們背後的各方陰謀交錯也顯得毫無緊張感.
甚至角色魅力和深度都無法發揮. 因為萬能的俏鉅子100%會搞定你們這些人.
套用英雄學院的台詞:"不用擔心. 因為, 我來了!"
諷刺的是, 英雄學院的歐爾麥特出現給大家更多新的期待. 是希望般的存在.
但俏的出現卻削弱了劇情的可能性. 如果不能克服這個問題, 擺脫以俏為中心的路線
那最後俏只會成為另一個觀眾不想看到的人氣主角而已.
--
所有的人都死了 所有的人都會死
俏如來會死在天擎峽 你率領的主力魔兵會死在葬骨嶺 而你 會死在這裡
我 默蒼離 將成為消滅魔世的英雄 成為中原最後的領導者
墨家 終於不用被歷史沉埋!
<止戈流‧開陣>
--
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