大媽對季末問題的回應 - 實習醫生葛蕾

都說是季末回覆，絕對有雷。

原文： http://0rz.tw/DetNO

還有一些未來走向。








（防雷！）









So what have the last 18 hours been like for you? I know you were nervous
about this episode.
對於最後十八小時有何感想？我知道你對這兩集非常緊張。

SHONDA RHIMES: I was. I was very nervous because I felt like what was coming
wasn’t territory that we’d ever covered before, and I didn’t know how the
audience was going to take it. I feel like I got a lot of really good
responses from it, and I feel like it was an emotional ride for everybody.
I wanted it to feel a little bit like a stand-alone movie, and I think it did.
是的。我對於final感到很緊張，畢竟這是過去未涉足的領域，而且不知道觀眾會如何
反應。但我收到很多正向回應，而且可以感受到觀眾對於結局的情緒起伏。我希望它像
個獨立電影，我想它做到了。

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One of the most controversial aspects of the finale was Meredith’s
miscarriage. Did you ever consider a different outcome?
結局的其中一個爭議點就是Mer的流產。妳曾想過其他的結果嗎？

RHIMES: If she didn’t have the miscarriage, she wouldn’t have been pregnant
at the beginning of the episode.
如果她不會流產，她就不會在這集初懷孕了。


So the pregnancy was all about the miscarriage?
所以懷孕整件事就是為了流產而存在？

RHIMES: It wasn’t necessarily all about the [miscarriage], but it was about
Meredith Grey being truly happy. And for me, when you’re watching that
storyline, when Meredith is having a miscarriage and she basically says,
“I’m having a miscarriage. I need Lidocaine. Are you going to help me or
not?,” you realize how incredibly strong she is and how badass she’s being
in that moment. To me, that’s the hero moment. If you don’t have that
moment you don’t really have the story of Meredith Grey.
這不一定全關於流產，但絕對關乎Mer的真正快樂。對我而言，當你到流產的劇情，
你會明白Mer有多麼的堅強，儘管她處在多糟的一個情境。那是一個英雄時刻，
如果沒有這一場景，你就不能真正瞭解Mer的故事。


At the end of the episode, she throws her positive pregnancy test in the
trash. What did that symbolize?
在最後，Mer把驗孕棒扔進了垃圾桶，這象徵什麼？

RHIMES: The death of the exciting dream that she had been holding on to all
day… I feel like you don’t ever know how much you want something until its
been taken away from you. Meredith figured out in this episode how much she
wanted to be with Derek, how much she wanted to be his wife, and how much
she wanted to have his children.
她守了一整天的興奮與夢想的逝去。我想你永遠不知道你對於某些事情是多麼渴望，
直到你被剝奪所渴求的。Mer在這集瞭解到她多麼想與Derek在一起，她多麼想要當
他的妻子，以及她多麼想要懷有他的小孩。


You once said Mer and Der would never have children. Have you changed your
mind about that?
妳曾說過Mer和Der不會有小孩。妳改變過心意嗎？

RHIMES: [Long pause] Yes. I’ve written my way out of that I think.
（停頓許久）是的，我已經不照那寫了。


So there may still be a baby in their future?
所以他們將來還是會有小孩？

RHIMES: Definitely. For me, this is the beginning of the baby story.
肯定的。對我而言，這只是小小孩劇情的開始。


I’m curious about the decision to end the episode with just Meredith,
as opposed to Meredith at Derek’s bedside.
我很好奇為什麼最後是Mer的獨角戲，而不是Mer在Der的病床邊。

RHIMES: The [episode] was not about aftermath. And to me, to see Meredith
and Derek happy with everything and fine was a scene of aftermath.
這集不是關於事件後續，而是關於Mer和Der經歷一切後的快樂與平順。


Will the season premiere be about the immediate aftermath?
下一季會以事件剛結束為起始時間點嗎？

RHIMES: I don’t know.
我不知道


So you haven’t decided whether there will be a time jump?
所以妳還沒決定要從那個時間點起跳？

RHIMES: We’ve talked about it. We’ve talked about it endlessly. We’ve come
up with 40 thousand different scenarios. The truth is, I’m exhausted.
We just finished season 6. I don’t even want to think about season 7.
我們討論過。我們無止盡的討論著，並且得出四萬個可能，但說實話，我已經精疲力竭。
我們剛結束第六季，我甚至不願意想起第七季。


How does Meredith not revert back to dark and twisty Meredith after all of
this?
為什麼Mer在這集沒有變回扭曲的Mer？

RHIMES: I don’t know how she doesn’t, but she doesn’t. I think in a lot of
ways Meredith has become the mother of the group. I don’t think there’s a
lot of room for dark and twisty when everybody’s been affected. We joke a
lot in the writers’ room that because Meredith’s childhood was so damaging,
in a way, she’s better equipped to handle this stuff than anybody else.
我不知道為什麼，但她確實沒有變得扭曲。我想主要是因為Mer已經成為團體裡母親的
角色。我不認為那還有空間讓Mer變得黑暗又扭曲，尤其其他人早已受影響時。我們在
編劇室裡開玩笑說，是因為Mer兒時的破碎，所以她才比其他人更能處理這種場面。

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How did you arrive at the decision to kill off Reed and Charles?
妳怎麼做出賜死Reed和Percy的決定？

RHIMES: It was both really easy and really hard. We’ve been layering in
these people all season, and I wanted you to feel comfortable with them and
their personalities. I also really wanted [to lose] people who we barely
knew. It’s sort of like what Charles says to Bailey: “I know you really
didn’t like me.” And Bailey says, “Oh, I liked you.” And then he’s gone.
By the time we fell in love with him, he was gone.
這很簡單但是也很困難。我們花了整季鋪陳這些人，並且希望觀眾能接納他們。
我也希望能夠希望只失去那些我們完全不熟的面孔。這有點像Percy對Bailey說的：
「我知道妳並不喜歡我」，貝莉說：「喔，我喜歡你」，接著他就走了。在我們開始
愛上這角色時，他卻走了。（其實我覺得大媽在迴避這題）


Did you ever think, In order to do this story justice, I need to kill off a
major character?
妳曾想過為了讓故事更好而必須讓主要角色死亡？

RHIMES: No, because — and I said this before the episode ever aired —
this was not about who lived and who died. To me, it was about what was
gained and what was lost. The real death of the episode is the miscarriage.
不曾。在提出這集的時候我就說過，這不是關於誰生誰死，而是關於得到什麼以及
失去什麼。這集真正的死亡，只有流產。

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Had Katherine Heigl not left the show, what role would Izzie have played in
the finale? Would she have been killed?
如果凱薩琳海格沒有離開，Iz在這集會是扮演時什麼角色？她會死嗎？

RHIMES: I have no idea.
我不知道。

Really?
真的？

RHIMES: Really.
真的。

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Talk to me about the decision to have Alex call out for Izzie after he was
shot.
跟我說說妳讓Alex中槍後呼喊Iz的這個決定。

RHIMES: I really wanted to find a way to deal with how much Alex is missing
Izzie. And it felt really poignant to me that if he was lying on a table
dying he’d be calling for her.
我一直在找方法呈獻Alex多麼想念Iz，我覺得當他躺在桌上瀕死時的呼喚，是最佳時點。


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Lexie confessed her love for Alex, but some fans aren’t buying it. She
didn’t really make a decision between Alex and Mark in that moment, did she?
Lexie坦承她愛Alex，但有粉絲不買帳。那時候，她有沒有在Alex和Mark之間做抉擇？


RHIMES: I don’t think she could have possibly made a decision in that moment.
The thing I think is interesting is that Alex definitely made his decision.
So I don’t necessarily know that there’s a triangle there. When Alex called
for Izzie — when in your hour of need you’re calling for another woman —
I think he made his decision. So I don’t think there’s a triangle.
我不覺得她那時候能夠做出選擇。我覺得有意思的是，Alex已經做出了他的決定，
所以我不覺得有必要三角戀。當Alex呼喚Iz時----那個明明需要妳卻呼喚別的女人的時刻
-----我覺得他就已經做出了決定。所以我認為已經沒有三角戀。
（好樣的，這招玩遍PP與GA，希望大媽新戲別上演這套）


In other words, hope is very much alive for Mark and Lexie?
所以Mark和Lexie之間還有機會囉？

RHIMES: Yes, there’s definitely hope.
是的，絕對有希望。

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Let’s shift gears to the actual crisis itself. I get that there’s a certain
suspension of disbelief that comes with stories like this. But I don’t get
why the SWAT team didn’t take the gunman out after they shot him the first
time. It looked like they easily could have gotten a second shot in there.
來談談這個危機事件本身。我不懂為什麼SWAT不在第一次射擊時就把槍手制服，
那看起來要補第二槍也是很簡單的。

RHIMES: They didn’t have a clear shot of him again.
他們沒有清楚的視野可以開第二槍。

But he was just laying there on the floor.
可是他只是躺在地上。

RHIMES: But Lexie was in between them. And then she got up and was still in
between them. And she’s running away and he’s running away at the same time.
So I don’t see that they could have gotten a clear shot.
可是Lexie擋在它們之間，即使她站起來還是會擋住。況且，當Lexie逃離的同時，
槍手也跑了，所以我不覺得SWAT可以補第二槍。


Fans are joking that Seattle has the worst SWAT team in the country.
粉絲們開玩笑說西雅圖有全國最差的SWAT隊伍。

RHIMES: That’s a shame because we have these super awesome SWAT guys who
talked us through everything. And we had a meeting in which I said,
“Seriously, it would be five guys in a group searching [the entire]
hospital? That sounds crazy to me.” And they said that’s how it works.
And for me, it made it so much more horrible because that hospital is enormous.
And the idea that just five guys are going to save them is ridiculous on so
many levels, and yet, that’s how it works. When you’re looking for
a shooter, you don’t have a bunch of people all spread out apparently.
那還真羞愧，因為我們有請教真正的SWAT，並且討論了每一件事。當我們會面時，我說：
「說真的，只會有五人小組進去搜索整個醫院？我覺得這聽起來很瘋狂」，他們說就是
這麼運作的。對我而言這很恐怖，因為醫院很大，只送五個人進去營救就各種層面來講，
非常荒謬。可是他們就是這麼執行的，當你在尋找槍手時，顯然不會送一大堆人進去展開
搜索。

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Jessica Capshaw is pregnant in real life. Arizona decides at the end of the
episode that she wants to have kids with Callie. Is there a connection there?
Jessica Capshaw在現實生活中懷孕了，Arizona在季末也決定要和Callie有小孩。
這之間有關連嗎？

RHIMES: No — although I love that Jessica is pregnant. I feel like every
year we have to have somebody on the show who’s pregnant and we have to
hide the pregnancy. It’s what we do now.
沒有，儘管我很開心Jessica懷孕了。我覺得每年我們劇組裡都有人懷孕，而且在戲裡
都必須藏起來。我們就是這麼處理的。


So the pregnancy won’t be written into the storyline?
所以懷孕不會寫進劇本裡？

RHIMES: Nope.
不會。

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Where was Bailey’s beau Ben in this episode?
貝莉的男友Ben這集到哪裡去了？

RHIMES: Ben was not working that day. There was a great debate in the
writers’ room that we should have Bailey say something about Ben not working.
And I felt like, no, we only see Ben sporadically as it is. He’s not at
work that day. And I didn’t want to spend time — because we have so little
of it and I had to leave 18 minutes on the cutting room floor — chatting
about where Ben was. I felt like you knew Ben wasn’t there because you
didn’t see him there. [But] I think there’s going to [fallout] about that
later.
Ben這天沒班。編劇間對此有個爭論，就是我們該不該讓貝莉說Ben今天沒班的台詞。
而我覺得，不需要，因為Ben都只是偶而出現。他那天沒工作，而我們也不需要花有限
的時間討論Ben。我覺得你們看到Ben沒出現就能聯想到了，但我覺得這對未來有影響。


So we’ll see some resolution there — even though Jason George (Ben) is
on your new show, Off the Map?
所以我們可以看到結果，即使Jason George (Ben)要演妳的新戲「Off the Map」？

RHIMES: I hope so.
希望如此。

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You mentioned in your blog post about the finale that April and Jackson are
“part of the tribe now.” What did you mean exactly?
妳在部落格上曾提過四月和Jackson已經是「部落的一份子」，這到底是指什麼？

RHIMES: For the purpose of story — because I don’t write things thinking,
What are the business decisions going on in the background — April and Jackson
have really been folded into the group.
為了達到故事的目的，因為我寫東西不先思考的。意思就是說，四月和Jackson終於融入
群體了。


I understand no official decision has been made about Sarah Drew and
Jesse Williams becoming series regulars next season, but, at this point,
can any argument be made against it happening?
我知道還沒有正式消息說Sarah Drew（四月？）和 Jesse Williams（Avery）在下一季
會成為這系列的常規角色，但就這件事，有任何反對這種事情發生的意見嗎？

RHIMES: I don’t have one. Do you?
我沒有反對的理由，你呢？

I don’t.
我沒有

RHIMES: I don’t have one either.
我也沒有。

Creatively, do you want them to stick around?
隨便做個假設，你會讓他們兩個繼續留在戲裡嗎？

RHIMES: I do. It’ll depend on what the studio and the network decide to do
with those actors, but I fully advocate to have them.
我想。但這取決於studio 和 the network，但我個人希望留住這兩個演員。

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Kim Raver has already been upgraded to a series regular, but some are
questioning Teddy’s future now that Owen has chosen Cristina.
Kim Raver終於被提升為常規角色，但有人在問Owen選擇Chris後Teddy的未來。

RHIMES: This whole idea that Teddy only exists [as part of a triangle is
ludicrous]. Teddy is Cristina’s teacher. Derek would be dead if Cristina
had not had Teddy around. That’s how I look at it. I will say it again,
the studio and network have to renew everyone’s options, and they have not
done so yet. But it is my intention that we will see Teddy next year.
關於Teddy這個角色的出現（包括可笑的三角戀）的目的，是擔任Chris的老師，
如果Chris沒有Teddy這個老師，Der可能會死---我是這麼認為的。我還是要說，
演員續約是取決於studio 和 the network，而且還沒結束。但我會想讓Teddy
出現在第七季。


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When Owen chose Cristina, he really chose her, right?
當Owen選擇了Chris，他是真的選擇了她，是吧？

RHIMES: Yes. He definitely chose her.
是的，他絕對選擇了Chris。

So that triangle is, for all intents and purposes, over.
所以就所有目的，三角戀結束了？

RHIMES: That triangle is done.
三角戀結束了。

But Cristina broke up with Owen in that episode.
可是Chris和Owen在這集分手了。

RHIMES: That is true.
是真的。

So they’re not technically together.
所以他們技術上而言不是一對了？

RHIMES: I tried really hard to get in an Owen-Cristina scene where he holds
her after Derek survived. But all my [medical advisers] kept saying,
“If Owen holds Cristina, she can no longer operate on Derek. She’s become
unsterile.” There was a big fight about it and finally I had to go with
“the look.” And I felt like Sandra [Oh] and Kevin [McKidd] adequately and
brilliantly portrayed in “the look” that there was still something there.
我試著Oewn和Chris在Derek生還後擁抱，但所有醫療顧問都說，如果Owen抱了Chris，
她就不能繼續幫Derek進行手術，因為Chris會變成非無菌狀態。爭論過後，終於用眼神
的方式。我覺得Sandra [Oh] 和 Kevin [McKidd]，成功的用眼神表示出兩人之間還有
些什麼。

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You previously teased this episode as a game-changer. How has the game been
changed?
妳之前曾戲稱這集是game-changer，這戲會怎麼轉變？

RHIMES: Here’s why I said that: When you face a situation like this — when
the entire hospital has turned into a crime scene — everyone you know has
faced life or death. It’s an incredibly traumatic event. Everything you knew,
believed, felt, and required of the characters in terms of what their stories
have been or what you believed about them no longer exists. Part of what’s
interesting about next season is that we can start anywhere — in any
emotional state — and almost anything can happen because we just came out
of this. It’s not like tomorrow they come back being the exact same
characters. They’re all sort of fundamentally changed.
我要說的是，當你面對當整個醫院變成命案現場、每個你認識的人都面臨生死攸關的
情境，是很衝擊性的，你曾經相信與信賴的一切都瓦解。下一季有趣的就是，剛度過
這場災難，我們可以從任何情緒點展開，任何事情都有可能。他們不像隔天回來後還
是同個人，每個角色都會有基本上的改變。


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結論：

1）Der和Mer會繼續穩定下去，而且絕對會有小孩；

2）C/O/T三角戀結束了，Teddy未來待定（約也還沒確定）；

3）Alex選擇Iz，Lexie還沒在Alex或Mark之間做出抉擇；

4）C/A復合，但是Arizona演員的懷孕不會被寫進戲裡；

5）大媽想留住四月與Avery，可是這要看約有沒有續簽；

6）貝莉與Ben之間會受衝擊；

7） SWAT真的就是那樣作業；

8）第七季每個角色都會有基本上的轉變。


心得：

1）看來大媽其實不想Alex當Lexie的McDreamy；

2）Owen可以想辦法追回Chris

3）Baby梗還沒結束，好煩喔...又不是看PP（自毆）

4）我想Avery留下可是不要四月...他這集好迷人啊（打滾）

5）大媽寫劇情都不是先設定好的，難怪常常不連續。

6）我覺得Reed和Percy比四月還融入群體啊...大媽真是殺人不眨眼。

7）大轉變，我覺得是種藉口，哈哈。
快點結束GA另開Seattle Grace不就好了，只要醫院在，角色可以隨便換。

撲疵，自己回頭看發現好多錯字。

感謝大家翻譯上的指正。
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