底線 - 布袋戲
By Hedda
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這是好友棋子在噗浪裡討論當集劇情的一些話,覺得從這樣的角度來看也不錯
雖然是在中原演魔世的事情,魔世整個族群感和性格卻也很立體,21集更讓我哭到不停
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論小元與魔世人的底線
都二十一集了 你沒感覺嗎?
蟹黃要弔魂罪為他生 這集他抱住小孩子的屍體那一段 你沒感覺嗎?
那就是他的「底線」啊
應該說一直以來魔世給我的觀感都是這樣,對自己人好,對其他人就無所謂
蟹黃是這樣、三尊是這樣,老應則是除了自己以外的人都無所謂
比較不一樣的,就是闇盟大師兄小明這些人
但是熾閻天會為修羅兵的犧牲崩潰
曼邪音會為熾與修羅的滅亡憤怒
同樣 蟹黃也會為自己的族人悲傷
你可以說那是私心 但那毫無疑問地是道德情操 就算他們的倫理觀念跟你完全不一樣
這並不是什麼奇怪的事情 就像這世上很少有人真正認為除了自己以外別人怎樣都算了
也很少有人能兼愛天下
大部分的人都是處在這1至100之間 所以人人都有私心
對自己的朋友一定會比一個不認識的他人還要好
只是魔世的人表現更極端而已
論俏哥的底線
棠:我一直覺得一視同仁的捨得的重點不在於如何捨如何得,而是該有什麼態度或價值
一視同仁,做不到,那便是偽善,無法成為慈悲
友:
再來談談俏如來 有很多人跟你一樣 認為俏如來偽善
但是 你回頭想想 俏如來的目的是什麼?
保護六絕禁地嗎?不是
殺掉元邪皇嗎?不是
俏如來的目的就只是阻止天地災變而已
如果復育燭龍不會造成世界性的災難 那他大概也只是袖手不管而已吧
那麼基於上面的大前提 我再問你一件事情
要達成俏如來的目的 真的已經到了非得要砍五百個人的頭來釣出元邪皇的地步了嗎?
你確定?真的已經沒辦法了非得要砍了那五百個人的頭才能阻止
你認為現在事情已經到了這個地步了
我告訴你 二十一集以前我還不敢肯定
但是看了二十一集裡蟹黃跟藏天地不容客的戰鬥
之後 我可以很肯定地告訴你 離這個極限還有一段距離
那為什麼老應做了?因為他想讓闇盟跟蟹黃互鬥 讓他坐收漁利
那為什麼雁王做了?因為他在向俏如來招手:來啊 跟我一起掉到同樣的地方來
所以下一集 俏如來的應對很關鍵 他要怎麼策應或拆局
這將會決定他的底線究竟是偽善還是真正的善良
我覺得有很多觀眾大概都認為 要當英雄就要弄髒手
但是俏如來從來就不想當英雄 他的願望大概就是很陳腐的那四個字 世界和平 而已
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論500(實到499名)戰俘,與道德標準
然後在這之前我想先貼幾個衍伸閱讀
1.https://goo.gl/ZES35u (有軌列車難題)
2.http://aaphi.blogspot.tw/2011/05/trolley-problem-and-experimental.html
(電車問題與實驗哲學)
3.https://youtu.be/Y4HqXP47lPQ 如果不想看文字推論直接看影片吧~
4.http://pansci.asia/archives/68010 這篇的再論點也很不錯
這個應該很多人都看過XD 用在這個命題最為合適
話說回來 我看到有人說中國人對道德的要求很高
我覺得這句話真是中肯 尤其是什麼大義滅親啦 殺五百救全世界啦
這真是變態級的高要求
這邊或許會有人講了 這又不是什麼光彩的事情 怎麼能說是對道德標準的高要求?
但是 你換個角度來看 為什麼你要人家大義滅親?
你要人家殺那五百名無辜?因為你想要人家救其他大多數的人啊
所以你要求俏如來為其他大多數的人大義滅親
或者為全九界的人殺了那五百名無辜 這個道德標準的要求難道不夠高不夠變態嗎?
雖然是在中原演魔世的事情,魔世整個族群感和性格卻也很立體,21集更讓我哭到不停
=====
論小元與魔世人的底線
都二十一集了 你沒感覺嗎?
蟹黃要弔魂罪為他生 這集他抱住小孩子的屍體那一段 你沒感覺嗎?
那就是他的「底線」啊
應該說一直以來魔世給我的觀感都是這樣,對自己人好,對其他人就無所謂
蟹黃是這樣、三尊是這樣,老應則是除了自己以外的人都無所謂
比較不一樣的,就是闇盟大師兄小明這些人
但是熾閻天會為修羅兵的犧牲崩潰
曼邪音會為熾與修羅的滅亡憤怒
同樣 蟹黃也會為自己的族人悲傷
你可以說那是私心 但那毫無疑問地是道德情操 就算他們的倫理觀念跟你完全不一樣
這並不是什麼奇怪的事情 就像這世上很少有人真正認為除了自己以外別人怎樣都算了
也很少有人能兼愛天下
大部分的人都是處在這1至100之間 所以人人都有私心
對自己的朋友一定會比一個不認識的他人還要好
只是魔世的人表現更極端而已
論俏哥的底線
棠:我一直覺得一視同仁的捨得的重點不在於如何捨如何得,而是該有什麼態度或價值
一視同仁,做不到,那便是偽善,無法成為慈悲
友:
再來談談俏如來 有很多人跟你一樣 認為俏如來偽善
但是 你回頭想想 俏如來的目的是什麼?
保護六絕禁地嗎?不是
殺掉元邪皇嗎?不是
俏如來的目的就只是阻止天地災變而已
如果復育燭龍不會造成世界性的災難 那他大概也只是袖手不管而已吧
那麼基於上面的大前提 我再問你一件事情
要達成俏如來的目的 真的已經到了非得要砍五百個人的頭來釣出元邪皇的地步了嗎?
你確定?真的已經沒辦法了非得要砍了那五百個人的頭才能阻止
你認為現在事情已經到了這個地步了
我告訴你 二十一集以前我還不敢肯定
但是看了二十一集裡蟹黃跟藏天地不容客的戰鬥
之後 我可以很肯定地告訴你 離這個極限還有一段距離
那為什麼老應做了?因為他想讓闇盟跟蟹黃互鬥 讓他坐收漁利
那為什麼雁王做了?因為他在向俏如來招手:來啊 跟我一起掉到同樣的地方來
所以下一集 俏如來的應對很關鍵 他要怎麼策應或拆局
這將會決定他的底線究竟是偽善還是真正的善良
我覺得有很多觀眾大概都認為 要當英雄就要弄髒手
但是俏如來從來就不想當英雄 他的願望大概就是很陳腐的那四個字 世界和平 而已
===
論500(實到499名)戰俘,與道德標準
然後在這之前我想先貼幾個衍伸閱讀
1.https://goo.gl/ZES35u (有軌列車難題)
2.http://aaphi.blogspot.tw/2011/05/trolley-problem-and-experimental.html
(電車問題與實驗哲學)
3.https://youtu.be/Y4HqXP47lPQ 如果不想看文字推論直接看影片吧~
4.http://pansci.asia/archives/68010 這篇的再論點也很不錯
這個應該很多人都看過XD 用在這個命題最為合適
話說回來 我看到有人說中國人對道德的要求很高
我覺得這句話真是中肯 尤其是什麼大義滅親啦 殺五百救全世界啦
這真是變態級的高要求
這邊或許會有人講了 這又不是什麼光彩的事情 怎麼能說是對道德標準的高要求?
但是 你換個角度來看 為什麼你要人家大義滅親?
你要人家殺那五百名無辜?因為你想要人家救其他大多數的人啊
所以你要求俏如來為其他大多數的人大義滅親
或者為全九界的人殺了那五百名無辜 這個道德標準的要求難道不夠高不夠變態嗎?
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