找痞子 BUG 的心態是什麼??? - 臺劇

By Anonymous
at 2009-04-22T21:50
at 2009-04-22T21:50
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(前文恕刪。)
其實,我是覺得抓bug是無可厚非,什麼戲都會有bug,有時候也是一種樂趣,
但重點是,「寫抓bug文時的態度是如何」,以及,寫抓bug文前是否有爬文。
如果抓bug時順便把劇組批得一文不值,那當然會讓看的人不舒服,這跟護不
護航沒什麼關係,bug再多,任何戲都是人家辛苦拍的,實在沒必要批得太over。
那寫文前還要爬文呢?這樣是否太累了?因為有些bug一直重覆討論,看的人也累。
我可以瞭解為什麼到最後,有些人會開始覺得幹嘛一直抓bug啊!
因為或許有些人會跟我一樣,幾乎每一篇討論文都會看,可是到最後如果某些似乎
不是那麼重要的bug一直被討論,久了會厭煩,當然,那不是寫文的人的錯,只是,
臺劇版目前非常自由,所以當有人不耐了,自然會浮出來講一下,因為當我們很喜
歡一部戲,想要多看討論文,但是85%的文都在抓bug,而其中90%的bug都討論過了,
自然會覺得有些失望和不耐(這個百分比不精確啦,我打個比方而已)。如果再加上
有些人抓的bug只是他純粹漏看或沒仔細看但人家明明有演的抱怨,那就更讓人不耐。
有些bug是後製或剪接沒做好的錯誤,抓這種bug就是要提醒劇組要再更仔細一些,
我覺得抓這些bug是OK的,因為那是「確實存在的錯誤」,例如英雄所站的電梯
是往上走的,但有一幕突然變往下走(是電梯而非人的走向)之後又變回往上,
這表示可能拍的時候沒調好或拍好幾次剪接時發生錯誤。
有些bug,雖然的確是一些不完美之處,但那並不是那麼不合理。例如西英為什麼
不綁頭髮、冰箱竟然放食物,我是覺得,這些都是「規矩」,當然也許在拍戲時
劇組是有疏忽,但它們並不是電梯走向忽變那麼大的錯誤,因為,在現實世界就
是有人會不遵守規矩,這種情形也算合乎人性;不綁頭髮,偶像劇真的是要美感,
這讓我想到之前新聞說命中的製作人說喬恩不會有大肚子的鏡頭,因為那是偶像
劇,要美感。
那有些bug,我覺得討論起來是很...讓人無言。例如覺得捷運終點怎麼會在那邊
等等的,或是講出購物中心是夢時代覺得很怪。這部戲的背景城市是架空的,叫
海港城,不叫高雄市,所以討論這個就很難再繼續接話,那為什麼硬要講出夢時
代、中央捷運站、KRT等等這些的確存在於現在的高雄的名詞呢?啊因為要置入
性行銷啊!
那問都取海港城了,其他為什麼不乾脆取別的名字?當然取別的OK,是比較完整,
但是既然要行銷,就用原本的名字不也很好?蔡導要賣去國外的,我相信日本粉
絲看完這部戲之後,會去高雄找那些場景,這樣對人家不也很方便?
本來討論這個也沒什麼,一次兩次也沒關係,可是說真的,一而再地講這些點,
而不是其他劇情推展或鋪梗的部分,有時真的會讓人OS:啊就跟你說是架空了!
另外一些我覺得比較不算bug的,那算是戲劇手法而已,當然大家見仁見智,討
論討論,也不必太傷和氣。
像是凌局長狂射在天,那是要表現誇張的效果,但擺在這部戲裡的確是有點風格
不一致,不過也不是很嚴重嘛。陳組長和黃隊長的勾心鬥角,也是有些恢諧的表
現手法,我相信那不是劇情重點,黃隊長大概不會出來幾次,那樣的表現方式是
OK的,陳組長的個性有一致,就是很不沉穩、推事、搶功...等等的,是合理的。
那像追捷運很誇張,或是在天怎麼跑那麼慢,人家英雄都到上一站去了,老實說,
是誇張了些,但我會覺得,啊就動作片啊,可以包容一下嘛,不然你說什麼毒販
會在光天化日下帶著毒品和槍跑來跑去,現實生活賊還是怕警察啊!或是黑道千
金被帶去警局問訊而已,警察局就被一堆黑頭車圍住,這些都是誇張到不行的,
如果覺得這是bug,那看這部戲會不太輕鬆,因為它不是走波麗士大人那種寫實
路線的,這意思是說,很喜歡痞子英雄這種動作片風格的人,可能會覺得波麗
士大人太仔細、太悶,而喜歡波劇的人就覺得痞劇太誇張,所以最好的方式是,
找尋你愛吃的菜來吃就行了。
寫這麼長的意思是說,其實抓bug是自然的,只是抓太過,或是除了抓bug,
其他討論過少,久了會讓人感到不耐,畢竟,這部戲應該還有很多值得討論的
地方,總之大家互相包容嘛,那不在意bug的人如果說「這是戲嘛,何必太認真」,
這樣抓bug的人可能會感到有些受傷,畢竟認真也沒什麼不對,被否定會不舒服,
然而可能就是表達的時候盡量就事論事吧,說「我的意見不同,我覺得不是這樣」
可能比較中性一點,雖然被反駁大概也還是會不舒服,但就是討論討論嘛,放輕鬆
些就可以了。其實看戲還是很主觀的,有些人覺得追捷運很瞎,有些人覺得很熱血,
但主要是看了開心就好,如果看了很痛苦這樣對自己健康也不好,何況,我想痞子
英雄算是很用心的戲了不是嗎?大家還是多給一些建設性的意見嘛。
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其實,我是覺得抓bug是無可厚非,什麼戲都會有bug,有時候也是一種樂趣,
但重點是,「寫抓bug文時的態度是如何」,以及,寫抓bug文前是否有爬文。
如果抓bug時順便把劇組批得一文不值,那當然會讓看的人不舒服,這跟護不
護航沒什麼關係,bug再多,任何戲都是人家辛苦拍的,實在沒必要批得太over。
那寫文前還要爬文呢?這樣是否太累了?因為有些bug一直重覆討論,看的人也累。
我可以瞭解為什麼到最後,有些人會開始覺得幹嘛一直抓bug啊!
因為或許有些人會跟我一樣,幾乎每一篇討論文都會看,可是到最後如果某些似乎
不是那麼重要的bug一直被討論,久了會厭煩,當然,那不是寫文的人的錯,只是,
臺劇版目前非常自由,所以當有人不耐了,自然會浮出來講一下,因為當我們很喜
歡一部戲,想要多看討論文,但是85%的文都在抓bug,而其中90%的bug都討論過了,
自然會覺得有些失望和不耐(這個百分比不精確啦,我打個比方而已)。如果再加上
有些人抓的bug只是他純粹漏看或沒仔細看但人家明明有演的抱怨,那就更讓人不耐。
有些bug是後製或剪接沒做好的錯誤,抓這種bug就是要提醒劇組要再更仔細一些,
我覺得抓這些bug是OK的,因為那是「確實存在的錯誤」,例如英雄所站的電梯
是往上走的,但有一幕突然變往下走(是電梯而非人的走向)之後又變回往上,
這表示可能拍的時候沒調好或拍好幾次剪接時發生錯誤。
有些bug,雖然的確是一些不完美之處,但那並不是那麼不合理。例如西英為什麼
不綁頭髮、冰箱竟然放食物,我是覺得,這些都是「規矩」,當然也許在拍戲時
劇組是有疏忽,但它們並不是電梯走向忽變那麼大的錯誤,因為,在現實世界就
是有人會不遵守規矩,這種情形也算合乎人性;不綁頭髮,偶像劇真的是要美感,
這讓我想到之前新聞說命中的製作人說喬恩不會有大肚子的鏡頭,因為那是偶像
劇,要美感。
那有些bug,我覺得討論起來是很...讓人無言。例如覺得捷運終點怎麼會在那邊
等等的,或是講出購物中心是夢時代覺得很怪。這部戲的背景城市是架空的,叫
海港城,不叫高雄市,所以討論這個就很難再繼續接話,那為什麼硬要講出夢時
代、中央捷運站、KRT等等這些的確存在於現在的高雄的名詞呢?啊因為要置入
性行銷啊!
那問都取海港城了,其他為什麼不乾脆取別的名字?當然取別的OK,是比較完整,
但是既然要行銷,就用原本的名字不也很好?蔡導要賣去國外的,我相信日本粉
絲看完這部戲之後,會去高雄找那些場景,這樣對人家不也很方便?
本來討論這個也沒什麼,一次兩次也沒關係,可是說真的,一而再地講這些點,
而不是其他劇情推展或鋪梗的部分,有時真的會讓人OS:啊就跟你說是架空了!
另外一些我覺得比較不算bug的,那算是戲劇手法而已,當然大家見仁見智,討
論討論,也不必太傷和氣。
像是凌局長狂射在天,那是要表現誇張的效果,但擺在這部戲裡的確是有點風格
不一致,不過也不是很嚴重嘛。陳組長和黃隊長的勾心鬥角,也是有些恢諧的表
現手法,我相信那不是劇情重點,黃隊長大概不會出來幾次,那樣的表現方式是
OK的,陳組長的個性有一致,就是很不沉穩、推事、搶功...等等的,是合理的。
那像追捷運很誇張,或是在天怎麼跑那麼慢,人家英雄都到上一站去了,老實說,
是誇張了些,但我會覺得,啊就動作片啊,可以包容一下嘛,不然你說什麼毒販
會在光天化日下帶著毒品和槍跑來跑去,現實生活賊還是怕警察啊!或是黑道千
金被帶去警局問訊而已,警察局就被一堆黑頭車圍住,這些都是誇張到不行的,
如果覺得這是bug,那看這部戲會不太輕鬆,因為它不是走波麗士大人那種寫實
路線的,這意思是說,很喜歡痞子英雄這種動作片風格的人,可能會覺得波麗
士大人太仔細、太悶,而喜歡波劇的人就覺得痞劇太誇張,所以最好的方式是,
找尋你愛吃的菜來吃就行了。
寫這麼長的意思是說,其實抓bug是自然的,只是抓太過,或是除了抓bug,
其他討論過少,久了會讓人感到不耐,畢竟,這部戲應該還有很多值得討論的
地方,總之大家互相包容嘛,那不在意bug的人如果說「這是戲嘛,何必太認真」,
這樣抓bug的人可能會感到有些受傷,畢竟認真也沒什麼不對,被否定會不舒服,
然而可能就是表達的時候盡量就事論事吧,說「我的意見不同,我覺得不是這樣」
可能比較中性一點,雖然被反駁大概也還是會不舒服,但就是討論討論嘛,放輕鬆
些就可以了。其實看戲還是很主觀的,有些人覺得追捷運很瞎,有些人覺得很熱血,
但主要是看了開心就好,如果看了很痛苦這樣對自己健康也不好,何況,我想痞子
英雄算是很用心的戲了不是嗎?大家還是多給一些建設性的意見嘛。
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