祁家威、呂欣潔、陳嘉君@麗文正經話 - 同志

: 推 justforyou0: 台灣社會過去為何同性戀是隱諱不能談的事，所以逼死
: → justforyou0: 一些人? 不正是我們自己封閉保守的思想和文化嗎? 人
: → justforyou0: 家信耶穌的都可以大鳴大放，還拍了tlw了，也沒人被燒
: → justforyou0: 死被吊死呀【我在講20世紀的事，別跟我扯中古世紀唷~

來來來, 別的不談,
"信耶穌的可以大鳴大放, 還拍了 TLW 也沒人被燒死沒人被吊死" 是吧?
還要講 20 世紀的事別扯中古世紀?

好, 我不但不扯中古世紀, 我直接講 21 世紀的:
( 連西元 2000 年前的我都不講了喔! 太 "古老" 了. 而且拍了 TLW 的是美國, 所以我
就 "僅查了美國", 歐洲各國我還沒算. )

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sakia_Gunn
"Sakia Gunn ( May 26, 1987 – May 11, 2003 ) was a 15-year-old African Ame-
-rican lesbian who was murdered in what has been deemed a hate crime in
Newark, New Jersey."
為什麼被刺殺? 因為人家 ( 男 ) 想要向她求歡而她直接表明了自己是女同志不願意.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Larry_King
"The murder of Larry King refers to the February 12, 2008, shooting death
of Lawrence "Larry" Fobes King ( January 13, 1993 – February 13, 2008 ),
a 15-year-old gay student at E.O. Green Junior High School in Oxnard, Cali-
-fornia, United States. He was shot twice by a fellow student, 14-year-old
Brandon McInerney, and kept on life support until he died two days later."
為什麼被槍殺? 因為他跟人家告白.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Paris
"Ronnie Antonio Paris ( December 9, 2001 – January 28, 2005 ) was a three-
-year-old boy who lived for only 1147 days with his parents in Tampa,
Florida. He died due to brain injuries stemming from severe abuse at the
hands of his father, who thought the child would turn out to be gay, and
forced the boy to box with him in an effort to keep him from growing up
"soft" or becoming a "sissy." "
這個例子最誇張, 死者只活到了 3 歲!

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guin_Richie_Phillips
"Guin "Richie" Phillips ( 1967 – June 17, 2003 ) was a 36-year-old gay man
in Elizabethtown, Kentucky. Phillips disappeared on June 17, 2003. His
body was found on June 25, 2003, in a suitcase in Rough River Lake."
被告在辯護時用了 "gay panic defense" ( https://goo.gl/mXTgUW ).
基本上 "gay panic defense" 還合法在美國存在 ( 除了加州 - 加州於 2014 年禁止
再用 gay panic defense 作為辯護. ), 就說明了美國這個 "信耶穌", "大鳴大放"
的國家其實還很保守恐同.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Sandy
"Michael J. Sandy ( October 12, 1977 – October 13, 2006 ) was an African-
-American man from Brooklyn, New York, who died after being hit by a car
while trying to escape four attackers who attempted to rob him because he
was gay."

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Walsted
"Philip Walsted was a 24-year-old gay man in who was robbed and beaten ( to
death ) in downtown Tucson, Arizona, on June 12, 2002." "Walsted was struck
in the head with the bat up to 20 times, and received more than 50 wounds
as a result of the attack."

我還沒列跨性別 / 變性者的 hate crime ( 下面有興趣的朋友請自行點進去看 ):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gwen_Araujo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nireah_Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizah_Morris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_Zapata

以及因為被霸凌而自殺的各種同志犧牲者

是啦, 是沒人被燒沒人被吊啦,
但被刺被打被射殺的倒是很多.
美國現在 ( 表面上的?! ) 的 "大鳴大放" 是靠著這麼多生命犧牲而換來的代價,
不是靠著自詡為文明進步的基督教徒.

: → justforyou0: 對大家有信任，知道不會被吊死燒死啦XD (←這是玩笑
: → justforyou0: ，會很難笑嗎?)

搭配上面來看, 其實蠻難笑的.

: → justforyou0: 其實同性戀受逼迫的情況沒想像中嚴重(只要自己
: → justforyou0: 不奇裝異服、個性古怪，在社會上都很好混)

"其實新加坡思想言論自由受侵害的情況沒想像中嚴重, 只要自己不要罵領導人, 不要錄
影片發表對自己國家的批評放上網, 在社會上都很好混."

"其實勞工受資本財團壓榨的情況沒想像中嚴重, 只要自己能接受免費加班, 領一份薪水
做三人份工作, 薪資調漲幅度永遠小於物價上漲幅度, 在公司裡都很好混."

邱妙津的死與同志被迫害是否有 "直接關聯" 這點無從得知, 但你推文中的話語與我引
號中的字句一樣, 非常無同理心亦非常不負責任.

: 推 justforyou0: 2.可以被"好的"基督徒愛的人是很幸福的人

可以被好的佛教徒愛的人是很幸福的,
可以被好的道教徒愛的人是很幸福的,
可以被好的伊斯蘭教徒愛的人是很幸福的,
可以被好的印度教徒愛的人是很幸福的,
可以被好的祖靈信仰者愛的人是很幸福的,
可以被好的無神論者愛的人是很幸福的..... 族繁不備記載,
以上這一切可以簡寫為 "可以被好人愛的人是很幸福的".

我自己也是天主教徒, 但我覺得你對基督宗教的 "進步文明論" 看法太過單一面向又太
一廂情願.

其實很多時候, 被靠北的主因是 "人" 而非 "宗教本身".

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