終極三國至25集的murmur抱怨+雜談 - 臺劇

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(以下是抱怨大於讚揚 批判大於溺愛的心得文~)
(不想被老人家嘮叨影響好心情的~就請直接按END囉!!XD)
我好像很少用重口氣murmur過終三!?
以往基本上都是看好不看壞 鼓勵大於批評言論居多
只能說on檔戲最終還是逼出我對三國的不耐了 (無奈~)
畢竟是沒有看on檔戲的習慣吧!?
印象中我沒有把一部on檔戲看完過的紀錄耶~XD
on檔戲最令人詬病的幾點~除了品質的疑慮之外
大概就是那集數過長 角色形象不連貫 前後期主要訴求劇情&人物不一
品質&集數現在先暫且不論(目前還在我可以容許的範圍內^^)
那這次就集中火力攻擊撻伐!?後面兩點好了(喂XDD)
沒錯!就是角色形象變來變去&劇情重點一直搖擺不定
讓我最近常覺得終極三國~跟初始概念相比
好像已經快變成另外一部戲了XD
<首先先是劇情重點的部分>
劇情重點很明顯的~
以往是歡樂三國 想走青春活潑校園喜劇
編劇並沒有很有抱負的打算把整部大三國編進去XD
從學校叫"東漢書院"而不是"蜀漢書院"就可以明顯看得出來
三國的競爭分裂權謀角逐 真的並非是這部戲的主打
而是想KUSO歷史角色 弄弄今昔對比的違和感來製造笑料
再加入些兄弟 武將等元素的青春熱血校園喜劇
歷史的部分嘛...我想以"最初概念的劇本"
頂多演到劉備(脩&真劉備都有可能)不知怎麼的跟曹操分裂了
但最終結局部分~maybe還是會走向大團圓和好的美滿路線吧XD
江東線..畢竟只是個串場過客 三國分裂其實不是剛開始的重點
因為初始終三的重點是放在 青春 熱血 搞笑 + 愛情串場
後來決定要擴展演第二季了 孫尚香從客串變成長期要角
集數double 角色增多 當然不能走以往只侷限在"大東漢"的視野
江東線的拓展 + 也許!?三國會分裂的劇情勢必要開始多做描述
所以~陰謀變多了 推理繁雜了 立場糾結的部分大大增加
終三劇情走向另外一個里程碑 以後發展可能無法再像以往一樣
大家都是朋友 人人都可在曹操家白吃白喝歡樂度日那麼easy XD
選邊站的機率大大提升了 矛盾糾結的劇碼勢必上演
歡樂三國走向糾結三國 早期觀眾群中不能適應者定是拍拍屁股走人了XD
終三戲劇風格正在慢慢轉變中~這已經是不爭的事實
但這點還不是最大問題 畢竟也因此吸引到許多偏愛"新口味"的觀眾加入
三國目前最大的問題是:劇情鋪展野心太大 導致新梗亂爆 舊梗先丟著有空再收
不知從第幾集開始 三國就開始出現這種劇情零碎的問題
一個主幹劇情演到一半 另一個主幹劇情卻又大張旗鼓開始進行了!?
可能是演員檔期無法配合!?
也可能是中途想多加一些收視很好的閃光戲!?
所以終三一直演到現在~都快30集了! 其實有很多重點都還是"停滯不前"的
董卓萬年代理校長? 王允你想躲到幾時? 曹操始終要黑不黑! 真劉備你醫好了沒?
以上這些舊梗都是拖幾百年了!!
當然後期還不遑多讓又加入了些半舊梗像是:
脩香各自身分何時大白!? 針叉勁到底還要差勁多久!? 江東線你到底要不要出來!?
只能說~大家誇耀三國的"收梗收的快"
其實只能夠包含一些較小的支線劇情
像這種萬˙年˙大˙梗!! 編劇有乖乖收起來的還真是屈指可數XD
最近一次最感人的莫過於24集
一口氣將呂關貂三人迴圈+呂布魔化+變很大疑慮
一口氣全部搞定! 而且算是認真收梗 & 笑點娛樂性也顧到的一集(三英"讚"呂布XD)
我好久沒看到三國如此有"進度"一集了 整個都快痛哭流涕啦 T.T
收視率高~其實也代表著不少人喜歡看大事件(拖了很久的舊事件)收梗吧!
而不是一直頻繁丟出來的小事件迴圈(丟了一個 KO一個 又再來一個 = =)
這其中最明顯的例子就是~
丟了一個小心甘 KO了一個指腹為婚 又再來一個大喬兼初戀總是美的梗 = =
在我看來這都是很重複的東西阿! 脩香戀很穩定啦~
不需要這樣一直反覆測試 測試完再閃光 再測試再閃光OK
還不如爆個脩香身分大曝光的梗還比較有點建設性些 = =
只能說編劇阿~這戲應該也快到尾聲了吧!?
就不要再頻繁的丟出一些新東西來擾亂民心了啦!!
劇情主要走向重點都被那些一集KO的小支線給稀釋光了 >"<
請認真想想要怎麼好好收那些"萬年舊梗"真的比較重要!!
<再來是角色塑造前後不一的部分>
首當要談的~
當然是前後期"變很大"的貂蟬小姐囉! = =+
先說我不是來撻伐任小妹妹的
說些什麼一看到她就轉台之類的狠話
其實每次貂蟬的戲份我都有很認真看完(廢話~我要截台詞咩XD)
每次我都在認真研究~到底..編劇你還要把她給害的多慘阿~!?(大笑)
貂蟬絕對是編劇在"試誤學習"下的犧牲產物!!
一開始貂蟬的人設是有點偏向於"杞人憂天"的不樂觀美女型
她無法放膽去接受 她會害怕 會膽怯
無法去肯定關羽的愛~是可以屬於她一個人的
呂布救了她~相對於關羽不夠明確的表達方式
呂布一直很直接表示想跟貂蟬交往的態度
使得貂蟬投向了呂布懷抱(關羽領卡中XD)
只可惜呂貂戀不夠受到廣大歡眾喜愛歡迎
(觀眾看不下去關羽那麼好的"貨色"卻被瘋狂發卡!?XD)
編劇一聲令下~臨時轉換航道!
呂貂KISS戲刪了 變很大喂了!
貂蟬個性180度轉變了! 也就能毫無顧慮的愛上關羽了...
假如這一切~
只是停留在第一季的最後一集
那還能算是相當美好的
但是..一旦延續到第二季的長度
貂蟬這薄弱的人設就逐漸開始"漏洞百出"了
問題~是會慢慢看出來的!
只可惜到了二季 編劇太忙~
外加劇情不再像之前歡樂三國
是集中在東漢書院 而是要向外擴展
貂蟬戲分不再像以往那麼重要了...
(貂蟬是真三國的前期角色~董呂之外很難找其發揮餘地)
在無暇在去彌補貂蟬薄弱的人設之下 也只能繼續放著她在那邊自由發展
很多人會批評貂蟬有時過HIGH的很莫名其妙 嫌演員演技不好感染力差
但是仔細想想 連我們都搞不清楚...
貂蟬~到底應該是個什麼樣子!?
那演貂蟬的演員~到底又該如何去詮釋發揮呢!?
(能發揮的也就只有像"華陀貂" & "流氓貂"這些形象塑造明確的小角色了吧~囧)
貂蟬演自己都演的捉不到方向無法討好觀眾
那她目前最大的功用~就是"讓關羽幸福"了吧!
(個人很愛看關羽幸福的笑容 >\\\<)
編劇不去拯救貂蟬薄弱的人設就算了! 還在背後捅了一刀~
反正貂蟬都"變很大"了! 那乾脆變更大變笨算了
讓她去相信董卓鬼話而間接害了關羽~囧
(其實編劇一直有這方面的問題 想要製造衝突時~就會害一些人變笨...
之前最明顯的例子就是狂讓飛 忠 超 三虎耍笨來製造劉曹衝突 = =)
只能說...編劇阿! 你到底還要害貂蟬害到什麼程度你才肯收手呢!? = =?
再來就是後期女主~人氣滿點的阿香囉!
沛慈以第一次演戲來說的確讓人驚艷這點就不再多贅述了XD
其實阿香這角色討人喜歡也真該好好謝謝編劇的功勞
(天音:那不是很完美你還來囉嗦什麼鬼... = =)
但在我看來其實也有很大的角色性質不連貫的問題
初期的阿香~
給人感覺是略帶驕氣的聰明伶俐大小姐
因為覺得山寨備實在太好玩了~
忍不住逗弄之下而陷入愛河!?XDD
那時的孫尚香 氣質是俏麗的 聰明的
略帶點嬌氣卻又不失可愛的特質為主
但反觀現在的阿香~
不知是"阿桑"叫壞了 還是"大嫂"叫多了
氣質逐漸變的有點超齡成熟了!
現在的阿香的特點是~
體貼 思慮縝密 替他人著想
這個人物設定也是不錯啦!
只是跟初期相比~雖然沒到"變很大"但也好像是另外一個人了XD
早期的一些俏皮口頭禪慢慢消失了
嬌氣褪去了顯現的是一股成熟的女人氣質
我說戀愛有沒有讓女生成長的那麼快阿!?(大笑XD)
很明顯是編劇人設不小心跑掉了咩XD
所幸無論是前後期的阿香 基本盤的個性都是討人喜歡的
問題跟"變很大"貂蟬比算是小小小小小case啦!!XDDD
只不過這人設的轉變~
讓脩香戀從早期的man香狂逗小白兔脩的青春戀曲
變的到現在~有點像是體貼香溺愛偷懶脩的姐弟戀曲XDD
我說脩你不要再裝成自己是銀時空的人了~!!!(指)
耍笨裝無辜是銀時空的特有權力!! (EX:五虎 小喬 變很大貂蟬)
像你這樣什麼問題最後都丟給阿香去想去解決
自己在旁邊狂說~ "阿香一定行!" "我信賴阿香!" 卻啥事都沒做的行為
跟我老弟不肯做家事推給老媽~再讚嘆"老媽真賢慧"的行為根本如出一轍嘛!(大笑XD)
最後再談一下~
一直要黑不黑的曹會長好了(打字打到有點累了@@)
我猜想編劇的心理狀態一定是:
喔耶~時間差不多了來開始鋪個曹操黑化吧!!(曹操代理校長&邪惡笑那幾集)
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什麼!?要新增第二部~劇情要延長了!? (曹操又走回大聖人路線黑化劇情暫緩)
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喔耶~第二季第一砲一定要來個猛的!!!(曹操五虎因荀彧&命題學士事件互鬧嫌隙)
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阿咧~乃榮要出唱片了!?沒空鋪他黑化只好繼續再裝聖人&路人囉!!
唉~該說什麼呢! 會長現在連召喚獸都不唱了真是...
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話說這篇冗長murmur本想放在經典台詞之後的
結果打一打就變成這種篇幅了有點囧 = =
我想我有病吧~其實...
當大家都不看好三國時努力堅持發文說點好話
現在三國文洗板熱潮 我卻又忍不住想去挑些缺點出來 @ @
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