開明的祖師爺與背景 - 布袋戲
By Hamiltion
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之前一直以為金光是把惠能和玄奘的角色合而為一,這次開明提到希望邪神將召喚祖
師爺,才突然發現一直想錯了,但有些地方還是找不到確切的解釋。
幾個不確定的點:
(1)達摩、六祖惠能與玄奘之間的關係?哪方代表北宗神秀?
(2)諦聖衣是不是初祖衣缽?還是只是玄奘衣缽?
(3)三昧真火的由來?
A. 火魔兒、元邪皇、純魔、不滅火(地氣修補)
(4)開明口中的祖師爺意義有沒有變過?對雁王的語言陷阱?
(5)目犍連尊者五百釋種與五百畸眼族因果關係的異同?
目前猜測:
在五祖前接衣缽之前,九算玄奘入魔世,並未帶走紫金缽。
五祖後二十年,盛朝武后當政,九算玄奘歸來人世後亡故。之後人世流傳《西遊記》
。魔世則流傳有迦諦聖者收服火魔兒取走火尖槍頭、三昧真火的故事。但與內容《西遊記
》應該有出入,開始流傳的時間也不確定。(這也可能會是雁王的誤區)
鬼飄伶:「我曾經聽過一個story,it's all about一件聖衣。」
公子開明:「我目前對任何故事都沒興趣,省下你的口舌,別影響我的思緒。」
鬼飄伶:「迦諦聖者與火魔兒的story,I believe you've heard about it. 」
公子開明:「掌聲鼓勵!原來阿飄對人世的民間故事這麼有興趣。你不只是愛照鏡子
,還有愛讀書,如此精進的心,讓在下自歎不如深感佩服。」
鬼飄伶:「那是流傳在我們魔世的story。」
公子開明:「你是作者,你自己編的對不對?」
鬼飄伶:「那你怎樣explain那道殺氣?這夾帶火焰流的殺氣,that's the legend
of the三昧真火。」
鬼飄伶:「傳說中,迦諦聖者擊敗火魔兒之後,取下了他的火尖槍頭,這個東西,
where is it now?」
公子開明:「你說的故事我真的不知道,你去問別人,別再煩我了。」
鬼飄伶:「迦諦三悟,奇怪文字的聖衣。What’s that pose to mean?」
五祖弘忍傳衣缽給六祖惠能,南北分宗,六祖惠能衣缽(南宗)分兩脈,迦諦聖衣傳
入魔世由開明一系護持,紫金缽傳入中原,由法海一脈傳承。此時佛國留下的大宗為北宗
神秀,彼時地門尚且無名。
開明應該是惠能帶走迦諦聖衣入魔世的支脈,但有可能不是玄奘所傳承的墨者。開明
身上的迦諦聖衣與釋教相關,木鳶、降妖寶杖與魯家相關,這都是很明確的事情。即便六
祖惠能不是墨家,鍛魯兩家協助初祖建設達摩金光塔,惠能手中有魯家製品也很合理。
反倒是開明與墨者相關的資訊大都是開明自己透露出來的,比如墨武戰韜、開明對墨
家體制的熟悉……,這比較像是開明故意展現出自己與墨家的淵源。
公子開明:「別以為你是鉅子你就能對我發號施令,我對你的能力不是抱著很大的信
心。」
俏如來:「為何我是鉅子就能對你發號施令?」
俏如來:「你為何看過墨武戰韜?」
公子開明:「阿?這是很珍貴的書嗎?」
俏如來:「墨家內部、九算候補的逸才才能翻閱。」
俏如來:「那你又知道這本書與諸位師叔的關係?」
公子開明:「書冊上面有寫墨武戰韜不是跟墨家有關係難道跟白家有關係嗎?」
迦諦聖者可能是入魔世的六祖惠能,他穿過魍魎棧道,收服擁有三昧真火的火魔兒,
這可能便是開明的純魔祖先,而後火魔兒傳承迦諦聖衣,再傳到開明手上,所以開明才能
夠使用三昧真火殺死赤天犬,火尖槍頭也還在開明手上。(開明祖師爺上身後會有一個裝
上火尖槍頭的動作)
而西遊記是變造史實的作品,惠能入魔世時可能還有遇到玄奘,玄奘帶回的《西遊記
》故事混雜了兩個人的故事。這也可能會是雁王的誤區。
鬼飄伶原先就知道迦諦聖者的故事,後來又看了開明給他的大般若經,再加上他對開
明的了解,他判斷開明口中的「祖師爺」是達摩,開明的語意也確實是如此。
公子開明:「是啊,現在要面對的,可是全無保留的妖怪。啊,這個時間就希望邪神
將在,讓他出一發六道惡印,請祖師爺上身!」
鬼飄伶:「假如,達摩真有打敗元邪皇的力量,邪神將可能請不到三秒,說一聲哈囉
就馬上退駕了。」
公子開明:「那就趁元邪皇被達摩驚到閃尿的時候偷襲他。」
但在公子開明和雁王的對話中,「祖師爺」的身分有點模糊。
公子開明:「你知曉迦諦聖衣的來由,又何必要我解說?」
雁王:「我要你親口說出你失敗的鐵證。」
公子開明:「你……」
雁王:「當然,你也可以放棄這次,賭下一次殺元邪皇的機會,你願意賭嗎?」
公子開明:「是,迦諦聖衣,是玄奘進入魔世之後,留下的衣缽,也是墨家在魔世一
脈的傳承信物。」
鬼飄伶:「小明!」
雁王:「還有,歷史的秘密不止於此。取經的四人,代表什麼?」
公子開明:「筋斗雲便是木鳶,四人根本是同一人,連同龍馬在內,都是祖師爺。身
法,兵器,武學的借代,而書上記載的妖魔,其實是魍魎棧道上的魔物與地形。」
雁王:「藏史於野,墨家一貫的伎倆。這段經歷被變造之後,便是西遊記,對嗎?」
公子開明:「是。」
開明對雁王的敘述中,祖師爺是通過魍魎棧道西行傳教的人,應是玄奘。但開明有可
能一直在雁王的步步進逼中試圖誤導雁王,開明和鬼飄伶的對話應該會比較接近事實。
鬼飄伶:「還有,你真的是墨家在魔世的傳人?」
公子開明:「怎樣,你跟墨家有仇喔?」
鬼飄伶:「It's not like that. 那迦諦聖衣,是來自人界的聖物?」
公子開明:「祖師爺的專武,專用武器。」
鬼飄伶:「so, 在魔世,也有墨家活動的足跡?」
公子開明:「一直都有,不過魔比較長歲,傳到我這也沒幾代。」
如果開明沒有騙鬼飄伶,那迦諦聖衣應該確實為初祖衣缽。
開明一開始看到雁王給的西遊記,曾經暴跳如雷,他本身身上的武功招式、機關道具
也幾乎都與西遊記有關,但如果「四人根本是同一人」,四人也可以參雜任何其他的人。
木鳶和降魔寶杖不一定是玄奘的東西,也可能是惠能的。即便原主是玄奘,之後也可能因
緣際會傳到六祖惠能這邊來,比如玄奘要回到中原,就交給了留在魔世更需要機關道具的
惠能。
這裡也可能就是開明可以用來坑雁王的地方,雁王熟知西遊記,但未必來得及完全弄
清楚魔世的掌故,只能從熾閻天那邊知道一點訊息而已。
開明可能並不是墨徒,他沒有正面承認過這件事情,唯一比較像承認的就只有那句回
應阿飄的「一直都有,不過魔比較長歲,傳到我這也沒幾代。」開明對雁王說的「迦諦聖
衣,是玄奘進入魔世之後,留下的衣缽,也是墨家在魔世一脈的傳承信物。」有可能是場
騙局。
但如果是開明真的輸得一敗塗地,最平緩的解釋就是四祖道信把迦諦聖衣分出,由玄
奘帶入魔世,紫金缽則傳給五祖弘忍,在傳給六祖或之前紫金缽就被法海帶入中原。而後
玄奘先把衣缽傳與墨釋雙修的傳人,回到中原,之後便有了《西遊記》,魔世也有了《迦
諦聖者和火魔兒的傳說》。火魔兒依舊可能是開明先祖。
只是這個解釋相對無趣。私心上非常希望天允山之約開明可以狠陰燕王一把讓雁王自
盡。XDDDD
不過這些猜測沒還有足夠支持的證據,裡面有非常多的漏洞和其他的可能性,開明所
講/雁王推測可能都和事實有點出入,到底最後甚麼才是真正的答案要以後演出來才能確
定。
【三昧真火、燭龍之焰、不滅火】
比較有趣的點是開明曾用三昧真火殺死赤天犬,元邪皇也曾有過類似的招式,開明身
上又有不滅火的火種。
開明是純魔,元邪皇是燭龍,這應該都是比較早期接近始界洪荒的種族,火魔兒、開
明的三昧真火可能和元邪皇的燭龍之焰系出同源。
不滅火是木鳶的動力,木鳶是魯家所製,那魯家應該最晚在盛朝以前就掌握了不滅火
的技術。不滅火又可以滋養地氣,影響始界和九界之間的變遷,這裡面可能很早就有人有
計畫的在重建地氣干涉九界成形。元邪皇後來和銀燕的對話中,元邪皇似乎認為始界分為
九界是人為造成。
同樣,在落隕之谷,除了棲霞君變成初始力量滋養地氣三百年一次的循環之外,還有
拜火族的存在,這有可能也是和不滅火相關可滋養地氣的設置。
不過不滅火和三昧真火之間是否有淵源就不一定了,也許開明只是恰好傳承到內含不
滅火的木鳶而已,就像張墨肯定沒搞懂萬鵲是甚麼鬼一樣。但開明也嘴砲過他有很多種重
新點燃不滅火的方式,如果不是純粹唬爛,那三昧真火和不滅火可能組成相近,可以互相
轉換。若能以上古物種的焰火改變環境,人為使其滅亡,但也是一種很有趣的對應。
然後往下傳承,十年百年過後,那就是無染之心啊。(靠杯)
開明:「心之所向,即是永恆!飛向宇宙,浩瀚無垠!ヾ(*′∀‵*)ノ」
不過還有另外一種北爛的可能,就是當年迦諦聖者無恥的搶走了火魔兒的三昧真火就
一路傳下去了根本強盜。(  ̄ c ̄)y▂ξ
【目犍連尊者五百釋種】
另一個有趣的東西是,在銀燕的意識中,缺舟所提的五百釋種。
缺舟一帆渡:「捫心自問,不代表過度自我質疑,若所行道路正確,未到盡頭如何斷
言?」
雪山銀燕:「到了盡頭,也許就來不及了。」
缺舟一帆渡:「所謂盡頭,有時只是另一個開端,一個轉擇點,有的人一瞬頓悟,有
的人花費半生才能看透,有的人窮盡一輩子仍原地踏步,這一切取決機緣,取決自身。」
雪山銀燕:「悟了,就能救嗎?」
缺舟一帆渡:「目犍連連尊者縱有神通也無法逆轉五百釋種的命運。」
因為五百釋種前生早已種下了因,於是今世必須用生命來償還這個果,即便目犍連尊
者把五百釋種放入缽中送上天躲避琉璃大王的追殺,最後五百釋種依然在缽中化為一攤血
水。
這是昭示著五百畸眼族民的未來?還是恰巧錯置的因果?
五百畸眼族民依然存活,這是因還是果?
如果元邪皇今日選擇殺戮,五百畸眼族民也許早就不在了,但在始界發展成九界的過
程中,是否還有其他的因存在而導致今日燭龍的反撲?
很喜歡缺舟出來和元邪皇說話的這一段。
不過下星期就要送小圓上路了。QAQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
只好來放個ED了。QAQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
《海陸之戀》 https://youtu.be/iuz6QvKxGPw
你早就該拒絕我 不該放任我的直接
給我變強的肯定 留下燭九陰的名字
時間難倒回 始界易破碎
一個藍月的愛情是我千年難忘的美麗回憶
越過道德的邊境 我們走過愛的禁區
享受幸福的錯覺 誤解了朋友的意義
是誰太勇敢說終會離別 只是償情不求明天
眼睜睜看著愛從史藏間溜走 還說只是算計
不夠時間好好來愛你 早該停止隨便一個魔將的遊戲
願被你捨棄 就算瞭解而分離 不願愛得沒有答案結局
不夠時間好好來恨你 終於明白恨人不容易
九界消失前 燭龍無雙溫暖我的臉
為我證明我曾真心愛過你 愛過你 愛過你 愛過你
小圓不要死。T^T
好希望始界開啟喔。il||li(つд-。)il||li
好想看到小燭龍在正氣山莊跑來跑去。_(:з」∠)_
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伏羲深淵轉頭空,青椒依舊在,幾度蟹黃紅?
史藏飄開都齊上,慣看月月高飛。
玄狐霆夏恨相逢,千年多少愛,都付小燭龍。
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