《神力2》評分狂跌是否有點誇張? - 電影

By Hedy
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※ 引述《CYKONGG (XXX)》之銘言:
: 《驚奇隊長》因為女主角本人布麗拉森的關係(無論是較不受部份群眾青睞的外表或者言
: 論作風),加上該片確實在漫威電影中是較平淡無特別亮點的作品,因此《驚奇隊長》即
: 便票房創下11億美金的傲人紀錄,但評價/分數方面一直不算是特別出色(甚至上映之前
: 就遭大量刷低分負評)。
: 而更普遍被認為是女神外貌的蓋兒加朵,爭議應該是比較小,而且開片分數與評價皆有不
: 錯成績,沒想到新片在爛番茄/IMDb上竟然直接狂跌…《神力女超人1984》是怎麼了?
: https://i.imgur.com/ozQuIlw.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/y8e5Mxv.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/xUc6pqi.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/dI0lqfv.jpg
: 說真的,這片明明就不差,又有女神加持,分數摔成這樣是否有點誇張?
https://imgur.com/Tnx7yVx
北美上映短短不到一週,暴跌到5.6而且給分的百分比不動如山
給1分的比例甚至微幅上揚
有些版友會說怎麼可能比XXX爛之類的
對這部片厭惡的程度已經到了讓我想去研究它的地步
因為一開始的評價還不錯,很認真的去看了後續的負評
首先是IMDB的投票分布
https://imgur.com/YjwUnru
當然18歲以下的少女樣本太小
但這只是美國帳號 對比非美國帳號的比例是幾乎一致的
也就是這部片的愛好受眾 幾乎集中在未成年少女
大概就是感情戲的部份
但感情戲拍得好是加分項,並不是個會讓人討厭它的原因
我仔細的看了各項評論
好評的部份 除了很容易判斷就是WW的腦粉之外
多半都是談論「美」 畫面的色調這類的東西
不得不說這部戲有部分工業化細節還是做的很好的
像是蓋兒的妝(真的做的很好)、服裝
負評的部份跟版上的討論文基本就沒有什麼差異了
邏輯死亡、說教、能力設定隨便
有人會用「超英世界本來就是唬爛的」來替劇本脫罪
真的要分享句名言,如果有人在進行創作
WW84真的是個很好的負面教材
也忘記誰說的;藝術需要最嚴謹的紀律
藝術並不是雜亂、無章法的東西
尤其大眾藝術,往往是最講究紀律的;
音樂的節奏節拍、畫作的佈圖比例、劇本的設定結構
WW84大眾評價真的會比沙贊甚至SS慘
就是在劇情的架構上徹底失控、設定毫無紀律可言
打個比方
電影工業把這部戲的很多硬體邏輯都處理好了(不談論喜好)
服裝最主要的工作不只是美術上,他們要跟著劇本分鏡注意「連戲」的問題
道具的工作不只是把東西做出來,要注意是不是符合時代
場記要把這些都搞清楚、時刻注意提醒
這部戲劇本的破洞就好比女主穿著白色連身裙進去會場
一進去後變成紅色熱褲 然後劇本沒有任何交代一樣
又或者槍戰的時候主角裝上子彈
打出來的卻是一顆芭樂 然後沒人知道為什麼
又或者譬如上一秒主角的衣服被子彈貫穿
下一秒衣服又恢復正常那種特別明顯的拍攝漏洞
甚至你連腦補都無法
工業化的硬體好萊塢果然還是很到位的
WW84當然沒有這些硬體上的漏洞
但劇本架構就是這麼呈現的,也是這部戲最基底的問題
實在很好奇華納內部試映的時候竟然就這樣過了
沒人對此有任何問題嗎
失序是這個劇本最主要敗筆;而不是在那些表達主軸的大綱文戲上
創作真的要保持好紀律 尤其是大眾藝術啊
而目前我自己看過的超英電影
真的還沒有一部在描繪主角、反派的能力設定上
像這部這麼失控、不連貫的
--
: 《驚奇隊長》因為女主角本人布麗拉森的關係(無論是較不受部份群眾青睞的外表或者言
: 論作風),加上該片確實在漫威電影中是較平淡無特別亮點的作品,因此《驚奇隊長》即
: 便票房創下11億美金的傲人紀錄,但評價/分數方面一直不算是特別出色(甚至上映之前
: 就遭大量刷低分負評)。
: 而更普遍被認為是女神外貌的蓋兒加朵,爭議應該是比較小,而且開片分數與評價皆有不
: 錯成績,沒想到新片在爛番茄/IMDb上竟然直接狂跌…《神力女超人1984》是怎麼了?
: https://i.imgur.com/ozQuIlw.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/y8e5Mxv.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/xUc6pqi.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/dI0lqfv.jpg
: 說真的,這片明明就不差,又有女神加持,分數摔成這樣是否有點誇張?
https://imgur.com/Tnx7yVx
北美上映短短不到一週,暴跌到5.6而且給分的百分比不動如山
給1分的比例甚至微幅上揚
有些版友會說怎麼可能比XXX爛之類的
對這部片厭惡的程度已經到了讓我想去研究它的地步
因為一開始的評價還不錯,很認真的去看了後續的負評
首先是IMDB的投票分布
https://imgur.com/YjwUnru
當然18歲以下的少女樣本太小
但這只是美國帳號 對比非美國帳號的比例是幾乎一致的
也就是這部片的愛好受眾 幾乎集中在未成年少女
大概就是感情戲的部份
但感情戲拍得好是加分項,並不是個會讓人討厭它的原因
我仔細的看了各項評論
好評的部份 除了很容易判斷就是WW的腦粉之外
多半都是談論「美」 畫面的色調這類的東西
不得不說這部戲有部分工業化細節還是做的很好的
像是蓋兒的妝(真的做的很好)、服裝
負評的部份跟版上的討論文基本就沒有什麼差異了
邏輯死亡、說教、能力設定隨便
有人會用「超英世界本來就是唬爛的」來替劇本脫罪
真的要分享句名言,如果有人在進行創作
WW84真的是個很好的負面教材
也忘記誰說的;藝術需要最嚴謹的紀律
藝術並不是雜亂、無章法的東西
尤其大眾藝術,往往是最講究紀律的;
音樂的節奏節拍、畫作的佈圖比例、劇本的設定結構
WW84大眾評價真的會比沙贊甚至SS慘
就是在劇情的架構上徹底失控、設定毫無紀律可言
打個比方
電影工業把這部戲的很多硬體邏輯都處理好了(不談論喜好)
服裝最主要的工作不只是美術上,他們要跟著劇本分鏡注意「連戲」的問題
道具的工作不只是把東西做出來,要注意是不是符合時代
場記要把這些都搞清楚、時刻注意提醒
這部戲劇本的破洞就好比女主穿著白色連身裙進去會場
一進去後變成紅色熱褲 然後劇本沒有任何交代一樣
又或者槍戰的時候主角裝上子彈
打出來的卻是一顆芭樂 然後沒人知道為什麼
又或者譬如上一秒主角的衣服被子彈貫穿
下一秒衣服又恢復正常那種特別明顯的拍攝漏洞
甚至你連腦補都無法
工業化的硬體好萊塢果然還是很到位的
WW84當然沒有這些硬體上的漏洞
但劇本架構就是這麼呈現的,也是這部戲最基底的問題
實在很好奇華納內部試映的時候竟然就這樣過了
沒人對此有任何問題嗎
失序是這個劇本最主要敗筆;而不是在那些表達主軸的大綱文戲上
創作真的要保持好紀律 尤其是大眾藝術啊
而目前我自己看過的超英電影
真的還沒有一部在描繪主角、反派的能力設定上
像這部這麼失控、不連貫的
--
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