東離的台語配音問題 - 布袋戲

By Lily
at 2016-07-09T21:53
at 2016-07-09T21:53
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比較過東離的日配和台配,大家對台配的評價似乎都普遍偏低
我覺得公子的角色聲音其實還算有鑑別度啦,但打從一開始的角色聲線選擇就出了很大問題
可能原本是為了讓日語聲優可以配音所以趕出來的結果,畢竟操偶師在現在黃大的配音下,大概也不需要管什麼情緒或聲線了
只要有台詞就能把偶操得嚇嚇叫
稍微說一下個人認為的主要角色該有聲線
1.零血壓(X)凜雪鴉(O)
雪鴉在這集表現的屬於算計型的角色,可能有點類似陰謀家或智者;聽說公子有參考龍宿口音...我真的聽不太出來
這類角色說話速度會比較慢一點,每句話的音節中常會拖尾音,感覺公子配得太俐落了
可以參考的聲線有溫皇、龍宿、慕少艾等
2.娼婦館(X)殤不患(O)
其實我覺得這隻角色的選角本來就很微妙...感覺隨興的角色用了一個看似穩重的大叔偶
公子在這隻的聲線上選得太穩重了,應該要用更輕浮一點聲線,像是風逍遙或是戮世摩羅一類的聲線都可以參考(霹靂一時之間想不出類似的)
另外個人認為其實殺生鬼言的搞不好和這隻偶很合......
這邊台詞最大的問題,在於雪鴉牽潘仔,殤想落跑時說的那一句:"是啊,真是怪異,太過離奇了,絕對是一個棘手的麻煩"
這句話太子配的像是殤真的對這件事感到很訝異一樣,但其實依照殤接下來的反應,這句話應該用棒讀的方式,才能表現出殤那種"管你去死"的感覺
3.殘胸(X)殘凶(O)
這隻的聲線是我覺得問題最大的一隻...看過布袋戲的人,應該一看他的造型就會想到很沙啞的配音,結果公子配的反而像是老人的聲線
只有最後自盡的笑聲稍微有一點感覺
這隻適合的聲線應該就很典型了,怒殺、邪馬台笑、還有各種長的狂野點的雜魚有臉角的聲線都適合
4.蔑天骸
其實單就BOSS的身分來說,公子在這隻的聲線選得不錯;但臉型有點配不上...
這個聲線會適合造型比較兇狠的BOSS角,例如如果蔑一直不脫面具,那這聲線還滿適合他的
但面具脫下來的斯文造型就是另一回事了
之前有版友認為這隻造型很像現代版西蒙,西蒙的聲線應該也會更適合他
5.丹翡
雖然跟公子無關,但....我總覺得這隻的聲線太老了一點,感覺應該用聲音嫩一點的配音員來配
他的聲線我覺得可能比較適合還沒露臉的形骸
其實整體看下來,我覺得公子配的最到位的是旁白.....
布袋戲到底要一人配還是多人配,與其說是傳統問題,更重要的是配得好不好的問題
當一人配音時,自然會讓配音者需要比較多的時間強化角色的情緒和聲線的鑑別度
新世紀和奇人的多人配音敗筆就是仗著多人配音而忽略情緒和聲線的部分
以第一集來說,公子的潛力應該是有的啦....
重點就是在於他肯不肯在這方面繼續努力就是了
畢竟隔壁棚的大俠在黑白龍狼傳早期也是給人罵得要死,一路努力才讓大家漸漸肯定他的實力
畢竟布袋戲是台灣傳統產業,而配音是布袋戲的靈魂,一人配音則是布袋戲的傳統特色
希望公子不會讓這個重統特色變成敗筆....
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我覺得公子的角色聲音其實還算有鑑別度啦,但打從一開始的角色聲線選擇就出了很大問題
可能原本是為了讓日語聲優可以配音所以趕出來的結果,畢竟操偶師在現在黃大的配音下,大概也不需要管什麼情緒或聲線了
只要有台詞就能把偶操得嚇嚇叫
稍微說一下個人認為的主要角色該有聲線
1.零血壓(X)凜雪鴉(O)
雪鴉在這集表現的屬於算計型的角色,可能有點類似陰謀家或智者;聽說公子有參考龍宿口音...我真的聽不太出來
這類角色說話速度會比較慢一點,每句話的音節中常會拖尾音,感覺公子配得太俐落了
可以參考的聲線有溫皇、龍宿、慕少艾等
2.娼婦館(X)殤不患(O)
其實我覺得這隻角色的選角本來就很微妙...感覺隨興的角色用了一個看似穩重的大叔偶
公子在這隻的聲線上選得太穩重了,應該要用更輕浮一點聲線,像是風逍遙或是戮世摩羅一類的聲線都可以參考(霹靂一時之間想不出類似的)
另外個人認為其實殺生鬼言的搞不好和這隻偶很合......
這邊台詞最大的問題,在於雪鴉牽潘仔,殤想落跑時說的那一句:"是啊,真是怪異,太過離奇了,絕對是一個棘手的麻煩"
這句話太子配的像是殤真的對這件事感到很訝異一樣,但其實依照殤接下來的反應,這句話應該用棒讀的方式,才能表現出殤那種"管你去死"的感覺
3.殘胸(X)殘凶(O)
這隻的聲線是我覺得問題最大的一隻...看過布袋戲的人,應該一看他的造型就會想到很沙啞的配音,結果公子配的反而像是老人的聲線
只有最後自盡的笑聲稍微有一點感覺
這隻適合的聲線應該就很典型了,怒殺、邪馬台笑、還有各種長的狂野點的雜魚有臉角的聲線都適合
4.蔑天骸
其實單就BOSS的身分來說,公子在這隻的聲線選得不錯;但臉型有點配不上...
這個聲線會適合造型比較兇狠的BOSS角,例如如果蔑一直不脫面具,那這聲線還滿適合他的
但面具脫下來的斯文造型就是另一回事了
之前有版友認為這隻造型很像現代版西蒙,西蒙的聲線應該也會更適合他
5.丹翡
雖然跟公子無關,但....我總覺得這隻的聲線太老了一點,感覺應該用聲音嫩一點的配音員來配
他的聲線我覺得可能比較適合還沒露臉的形骸
其實整體看下來,我覺得公子配的最到位的是旁白.....
布袋戲到底要一人配還是多人配,與其說是傳統問題,更重要的是配得好不好的問題
當一人配音時,自然會讓配音者需要比較多的時間強化角色的情緒和聲線的鑑別度
新世紀和奇人的多人配音敗筆就是仗著多人配音而忽略情緒和聲線的部分
以第一集來說,公子的潛力應該是有的啦....
重點就是在於他肯不肯在這方面繼續努力就是了
畢竟隔壁棚的大俠在黑白龍狼傳早期也是給人罵得要死,一路努力才讓大家漸漸肯定他的實力
畢竟布袋戲是台灣傳統產業,而配音是布袋戲的靈魂,一人配音則是布袋戲的傳統特色
希望公子不會讓這個重統特色變成敗筆....
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