大家一起來定義何謂引戰吧 - 臺劇

By Lily
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我是一個剛進來台劇版將近半年的潛水客,對此版並不太了解,但經此事後有點小想法
畢竟好像是我首先建議版主新增副版主的,但看了這一連串事件下來,
我突然覺得也許增了版主,也未必能解決此事,
而且在此敏感時機我想應該也沒人願意當版主吧?!
所以感覺我的建議很無意義,而且我還推文要過引戰的定義是甚麼?
好像都是給版主找麻煩,而自己只會問和要答案,但都辛苦到版主,而卻也只會說
版主辛苦了,但我想版主要的好像不只是這種加油打氣而已!
還有看到很多人,都把責任推給版主,就更對版主感到抱歉和同情了!
例如:反正有問題檢舉就對了,版主自己會判定...
版規交給版主,版主怎麼定就怎麼遵守...
以上不引用推文,相信大家都應該看過類似推文吧?!!XD
相信諸如此類的推文,在那幾篇討論中應該出現不少次吧?!
先說說我以一個版友的立場去看,我應該會覺得好像還挺有道理的
反正版主怎麼說就怎麼遵守囉!但換個角度想,假如我是版主
我看到這樣的推文應該開心不起來,怎麼說哩,因為假如今天一個版主
可以專制去決定一切,那麼這樣的推文一點問題也沒有,反而很OK!
但今天PTT上的版主,他要顧慮到所謂的公平和民主,而且還要怕自己是否會錯判
或自己的判決立場是否不夠客觀,還有版規是否太過嚴厲或過於鬆懈...等等
但大家往往把責任推給他,他要個討論和想法,得到的答案卻如此的少
甚至最後大家還是亂成一團,說真的假如我是版主,我除了會生氣也會難過吧!
因為要公平民主的是你們,但你們有真的關心你們的民主和公平該如何來嗎?
還是只是想到我不犯規版主不罰我,其他的就不重要,版主自己去決定就好!
說真的這樣把責任往版主身上推的想法,會不會太過自私了呢?
以版主的立場想
對判決有問題的是你們,不滿判決的是你們,不滿版規的也是你們
但當我真心想請問我該如何做時,得到的答案卻是你自己決定就好
我想請問假如今天是你們當版主,那你們說你們會如何?
以上沒其他意思,只是希望大家換成版主的角度去想而已!:)
再來說說我的小想法和建議,畢竟我自己也推文要過答案惹過麻煩
所以就給點我的想法和建議囉!當然我很歡迎大家有不同的想法和意見
也可→跟我說,而如果贊同也可以推一下^^
那就是對於引戰此版規的想法
我的想法是引戰這條版規有其存在的必要性嗎?
這是個疑問句,我說了我來此不久所以不了解這裡的生態,所以想知道這版規
真的有存在的必要嗎?
我的想法是,它在台劇版沒有存在的必要性,因為這裡是台劇版
不是任何一部戲的專版,是一個大家共同討論台灣戲劇的討論版
沒道理只存在讚美而沒有批評吧!
喜歡的人很多 相對而言 一有批評聲出現,那麼難受的人就相對的會很多
所以那個批評聲就成了引戰點嗎?
難道持反面意見的人就不能有不同意見嗎?
為何只能喜歡不能討厭呢?
喜歡是多數討厭是少數,所以少數就活該被犧牲被警告?
這樣公平嗎?
其實這幾天的討論,我有推文過,有人也回過我,某句話說的很有道理!
來這只要讚美和替自己喜歡的戲劇加油就可以了
這樣也不會被罰,我聽到這話說真的我覺得很有道理呀!
但說真的不會被罰是沒錯呀!這樣當然絕對不會被罰!
只支持自己所愛,哪可能被罰?
可是我心中有了一些疑問就是了
這裡難道是粉絲俱樂部
所以只可以讚美不能批評?
當然我也不是說台劇版已經變成了只能讚美不能批評,畢竟我也是有看到批評啦!XD
只是覺得如果人人都以這個想法來,那好像會讓這個版好像少了點甚麼就是了:)
因為畢竟這裡是一個綜合討論版,不是任何一部戲的專版
批評跟讚美並存才有其討論的價值呀!
但我深怕引戰這個版規會限制了其一方的存在
那就是變得一部戲只能存在僅有單一批評或單一讚美
因為多數者可能會因引戰此一版規而將少數者給逼走
因為有人說了和多數者相反想法的意見後可能就會被因引戰此一版規而警告
那少數者哪還敢來這訴說自己的不同意見呢?
有句話不是說
少數服從多數,多數尊重少數
投票是如此,但我覺得任何時候都該如此不是嗎?
既然多數聲音大難道就非得逼得少數要認同才行嗎?
為何不就互相尊重就好了!
少數別惡意批評亂多數,但當少數發言有其道理不是惡意批評時
多數可否忍住不舒服選擇尊重人家的發言權哩!
多數可以對少數訴說自己不認同的想法和意見,但有需要到要求版主警告他嗎?
其實現在引戰一詞的版規,讓我就有種少數會因此被逼走的感覺!XD
那就似乎遺忘了多數尊重少數這句的樣子
這樣好像就缺乏所謂的公平了吧!
感覺似乎只要多數不舒服,說感覺自己被挑釁了,這樣感覺就可以構成蓄意引戰
那不就代表剝奪了少數人發言的權利了!?
其實有時雙方意見不同,一來一往雖然很酸很不舒服,
可是只要不發出髒話,不為批評而批評
這樣的戰爭又何嘗不能存在呢?
當然這是我個人的想法,只是我覺得討論版不該只存在單一方的聲音!
畢竟應該也有人是來看看大家對戲的讚美外也許也有批評呀!
我一直覺得批評聲不會不好,畢竟有批評才能有進步
如果只想讚美或只想批評,那感覺是否少了點甚麼?
有時看看和自己不同想法的人的發言,也不無樂趣呀!
而且還可以因此學到不少!
我知道戰爭不好,但筆戰難道也不行嗎?
一來一往的筆戰,也許看來像吵架,但只要不觸犯罵人惡意批評還有故意亂
其存在又有何不可?
我知道這樣也許會很亂,但難道為了不亂就犧牲少數人的權利嗎?
這樣公平嗎??
而且說真的戰爭有時也沒不好吧!大家會來台劇版應該也都看過不少戲才對
所以應該知道一句話不打不相識,很多戲不都很愛鋪不打不相識的梗嗎?
所以戰難道真的不好嗎?難道不會有戰到後來變朋友的嗎?XD
所以我個人認為與其煩惱引戰一詞要如何定義,把它取消會不會比較好?
這是我個人的想法,如果有人不認同歡迎批評指教,只要你們是善意的討論和批評
我都會很開心的接受,因為我說過有批評才會有進步
聽聽和自己不同意見的聲音才可以學到更多^^
而如果認同我的人也請給個推,讓版主知道這想法有多少人支持!
以上的想法歡迎不認同者給予想法和意見,別一句不同意喔!^^
因為以上想法是為了讓版主能方便設版規,別讓他一人這麼辛苦卻也無奈不知該如何做!
如果你喜歡這個台劇版而覺得版主真的辛苦了就給點意見吧!
別把責任都推給版主一人了!他可沒領各位的薪水呀!XDDDD
呼~想不到台劇版首PO竟是建議版規想法,我知道我算是個外人,所以如果不認同的人
歡迎給予我意見和想法喔!!^^
還有以上如有得罪任何人還請見諒,因為文字是沒感情的,但我發文時有盡量小心!
只是如果還是有不小心得罪誰還請見諒喔!^^
以上 感恩有看完的人!^^
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